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100 SMA-- Naturag gas
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Rahulsharmaat
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Post: #31   PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Natural gas short at 184-- now 181---

TSL at 184.50-- and hold
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Post: #32   PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rahul

I think this kind of strategy sounds good...backtesting may show good net results but it hides its inefficiency disguised as inevitable SL hits and incidental losses to be treated as expense of trading.

Whether it is 100 SMA high or 89 EMA high or any other EMA crossover strategy, exit strategy is most crucial. This is because exits ensure the real profit . The entry may be defined but after sometime the price peaks (or bottoms) and then it turns to not only eat up all profits but may also hit SL and result in losses.

In case of 834 method the exit, along with entry is clearly defined. Exit is when price cuts 8 EMA, much before it reaches 34 EMA. That ensures that as the trend reverses one can book profits at a good level and obviate the need to hit SL. In fact SL is nothing but avoiding large unprecedented volatility to suddenly go against overall trend. SL is not something we want to get hit but just a safety net.

Exit at some ad hoc level like 5 point target doesn't convince me. In fact it makes it seem like gambling, not a very well planned strategic trading decision.

These are some of my thoughts at this approach which I feel needed to be brought out lest people start making large unnecessary losses or highly inefficient small profits.

Regards,

Oppo
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Post: #33   PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your observation

What i am trading-- thats what i have posted

There are many many threads-- which are better in trading-- with all TA
i request people to follow them-- If they feel --setup posted by me will bring them loss---

Its my humble request

artist


i will go on trading like this

I trade-----

Nifty
bank nifty

Relinfra
Tata steel
Hero Moto
Can bank

Nickel
natural gas


thats it
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Post: #34   PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:14 am    Post subject: hi Reply with quote

opportunist wrote:
Rahul

I think this kind of strategy sounds good...backtesting may show good net results but it hides its inefficiency disguised as inevitable SL hits and incidental losses to be treated as expense of trading.

Whether it is 100 SMA high or 89 EMA high or any other EMA crossover strategy, exit strategy is most crucial. This is because exits ensure the real profit . The entry may be defined but after sometime the price peaks (or bottoms) and then it turns to not only eat up all profits but may also hit SL and result in losses.

In case of 834 method the exit, along with entry is clearly defined. Exit is when price cuts 8 EMA, much before it reaches 34 EMA. That ensures that as the trend reverses one can book profits at a good level and obviate the need to hit SL. In fact SL is nothing but avoiding large unprecedented volatility to suddenly go against overall trend. SL is not something we want to get hit but just a safety net.

Exit at some ad hoc level like 5 point target doesn't convince me. In fact it makes it seem like gambling, not a very well planned strategic trading decision.

These are some of my thoughts at this approach which I feel needed to be brought out lest people start making large unnecessary losses or highly inefficient small profits.

Regards,

Oppo


my friend, maybe rahul is confident enough about his strategy, but let me tell you, if the set up is not good or one really want to see the merits and demerits, one should do backtesting by oneself.

if any body wants to try any system they will and should themselves backtest first without relying on anybody right?

not questioning your honesty rahul, but this is what i feel. Mr. Green
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Post: #35   PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not a call provider-- neither i have any motive of gain-- for posting my findings

Neither i claim and ask any one to trade this set up
I gave it here-- one can look into it-- if suits can trade-- else skip
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Post: #36   PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

natural gas TSL hit at 184.50

Long made at 187 yesterday went to 191

Now TSL at cost
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