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satishboda White Belt
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Post: #271 Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:27 am Post subject: |
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stevenmat.. once the crossover happens, perhaps today; then puts of which strike rate would you start to accumulate ? |
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stevenmat White Belt
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Post: #272 Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:48 am Post subject: |
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satishboda wrote: | stevenmat.. once the crossover happens, perhaps today; then puts of which strike rate would you start to accumulate ? |
5800 PE's at the end of the day |
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shanticomq White Belt
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Post: #273 Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Steve
5800 pe is at 69.10 & nifty fut at 5924 its below 5940
so buy trigger am i correct
Sanjay |
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vinay28 Black Belt
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Post: #274 Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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steve NF is in a sell as per strategy but have you checked 3-15 crossover on daily chart of 5800pe? It is important that such thing is checked since options loose value with time. Otherwise best to buy 6000pe whose intrinsic value is high or sell simply sell NF being start of the series.
One more reason - if 5800 pe doesn't rise in tandom with fall in NF, it means 5800pe is being written since NF may not go to 5800. |
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stevenmat White Belt
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Post: #275 Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:21 am Post subject: |
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vinay28 wrote: | steve NF is in a sell as per strategy but have you checked 3-15 crossover on daily chart of 5800pe? It is important that such thing is checked since options loose value with time. Otherwise best to buy 6000pe whose intrinsic value is high or sell simply sell NF being start of the series.
One more reason - if 5800 pe doesn't rise in tandom with fall in NF, it means 5800pe is being written since NF may not go to 5800. |
i will keep that in mind ...thank you |
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stevenmat White Belt
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Post: #276 Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:23 am Post subject: |
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shanticomq wrote: | Hi Steve
5800 pe is at 69.10 & nifty fut at 5924 its below 5940
so buy trigger am i correct
Sanjay |
sorry for the late post sanjay...i havent bought the puts as i am thinking that monday opening might be in green.. so i will short on monday.. so atleast we'll get higher levels to short..
cheers
stevenmat |
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shanticomq White Belt
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Post: #277 Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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Hi stevevenmat
OK Boss & Thanks
Sanajy |
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paa White Belt
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Post: #278 Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Why this deviation Steve? How come you think that market will be green on Monday? |
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SIV123 White Belt
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Post: #279 Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:45 pm Post subject: CALCULATION OF EMA VALUES and TWO EMA CROSS OVER POINTS |
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THOSE WHO KNOWS THE KNOWLEDGE OF EXCEL SHEET OPERATIONS CAN UNDERSTANDED OTHEWISE IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO EXPLAIN THRUOGH THIS FORUM HOW THE CALCULATIONS CONSISTS OF FORMULAS |
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vinay28 Black Belt
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Post: #280 Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:33 pm Post subject: Re: CALCULATION OF EMA VALUES and TWO EMA CROSS OVER POINTS |
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SIV123 wrote: | THOSE WHO KNOWS THE KNOWLEDGE OF EXCEL SHEET OPERATIONS CAN UNDERSTANDED OTHEWISE IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO EXPLAIN THRUOGH THIS FORUM HOW THE CALCULATIONS CONSISTS OF FORMULAS |
next day for 26/7 is 29/7 with a sell @ 5947.85? or is it for next day of 25th? if so, why is it in same row as of 26th? |
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SIV123 White Belt
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Post: #281 Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:46 am Post subject: |
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[b]Vinay 28 wrotes[/b]
next day for 26/7 is 29/7 with a sell @ 5947.85? or is it for next day of 25th? if so, why is it in same row as of 26th?
[b]Next Day for 26/7 is 29/7 with a sell below 5947.85 at the end of the day[/b].
[u]Some more Explanations[/u]:
Pl refer the explanation point No 4 in atteched sheet. If you put the EOD values of " O-H-L-C " in row 645 for 26-07-2013 the next row 646 in coloumn " H " shows EMA-1 Value ie) EMA-1 is 3 Days as in " H-2 " cell.Similarly the next row 646 in coloumn " K " shows EMA-2 Value ie) EMA-2 is 15 Days as in " K-2 " .Therefore at the end of the day 26-07-2013 EMA-1 ( 3 Days Exponential Moving Average ) is 5947.48 and EMA-2 ( 15 Days Exponential Moving Average ) is 5955.95. This you can see in the Icharts.
As per this strategy EMA-1 & EMA-2, the two EMA Crossover ( either up to down or down to up ) will going to happend at the value in coloumn " P " ie) 5967.25 .
[u][b]Example[/b][/u]:
On 25-07-2013 Nifty Close at 5907.35, EMA-1 (3Days ) is 5969.71, EMA-2 ( 15 Days ) is 5960.34. With this two values the Crossover for 26-07-2013 is calculated and it happened at the value in coloumn " P-645 " is 5947.85. Ie ) Nifty has closede below the Crossover Point ( Nifty closses at 5925.25 ).Moreover the present position of nifty also changed from in coloumn " M - 644 " as " 1 " to in coloumn " M - 645 " as " 0 "
Now on 26-07-2013 Nifty Close at 5925.25, EMA-1 (3Days ) is 5947.48, EMA-2 ( 15 Days ) is 5955.95. With this two values the Crossover for 29-07-2013 is calculated and it will going to happen [b]if Nifty closses above the value in coloumn " P-646 "is 5967.25.[/b] |
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vinay28 Black Belt
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Post: #282 Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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thanks siv123 |
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ajit602 White Belt
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Post: #283 Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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SIV123 wrote: | Vinay 28 wrotes
next day for 26/7 is 29/7 with a sell @ 5947.85? or is it for next day of 25th? if so, why is it in same row as of 26th?
Next Day for 26/7 is 29/7 with a sell below 5947.85 at the end of the day.
Some more Explanations:
Pl refer the explanation point No 4 in atteched sheet. If you put the EOD values of " O-H-L-C " in row 645 for 26-07-2013 the next row 646 in coloumn " H " shows EMA-1 Value ie) EMA-1 is 3 Days as in " H-2 " cell.Similarly the next row 646 in coloumn " K " shows EMA-2 Value ie) EMA-2 is 15 Days as in " K-2 " .Therefore at the end of the day 26-07-2013 EMA-1 ( 3 Days Exponential Moving Average ) is 5947.48 and EMA-2 ( 15 Days Exponential Moving Average ) is 5955.95. This you can see in the Icharts.
As per this strategy EMA-1 & EMA-2, the two EMA Crossover ( either up to down or down to up ) will going to happend at the value in coloumn " P " ie) 5967.25 .
Example:
On 25-07-2013 Nifty Close at 5907.35, EMA-1 (3Days ) is 5969.71, EMA-2 ( 15 Days ) is 5960.34. With this two values the Crossover for 26-07-2013 is calculated and it happened at the value in coloumn " P-645 " is 5947.85. Ie ) Nifty has closede below the Crossover Point ( Nifty closses at 5925.25 ).Moreover the present position of nifty also changed from in coloumn " M - 644 " as " 1 " to in coloumn " M - 645 " as " 0 "
Now on 26-07-2013 Nifty Close at 5925.25, EMA-1 (3Days ) is 5947.48, EMA-2 ( 15 Days ) is 5955.95. With this two values the Crossover for 29-07-2013 is calculated and it will going to happen if Nifty closses above the value in coloumn " P-646 "is 5967.25. |
but sir we should enter long or short at which level? please reply. |
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shanticomq White Belt
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Post: #284 Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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see mkt does see saw on daily basis but as per steve method crossover is done but if u want to buy put wait for a day you will buy put at lower levels
u will get maxs profits.
sanjay |
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stevenmat White Belt
Joined: 27 Dec 2011 Posts: 478
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Post: #285 Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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shanticomq wrote: | see mkt does see saw on daily basis but as per steve method crossover is done but if u want to buy put wait for a day you will buy put at lower levels
u will get maxs profits.
sanjay |
sorry for the late post guys... but it dint work out as i expected...but nonetheless i have bought 5800 PEs at 72.5..
lets see how it pans out..
fyi : look at the vix !!! |
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