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a layman's approach to break out and break down
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vishytns
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Post: #1126   PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hdfc bank

a head and shoulder pattern

already broken down and due to positive divergence, its testing bd level again

the bd level is monthly pivot, we will sell it once its get rejected from pivot level again

sl will be a close above monthly pivot in hourly chart



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Post: #1127   PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bhai i again request you to please post the values also.its hard to find the mentioned value on charts as we are new here
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Post: #1128   PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ali522003 wrote:
bhai i again request you to please post the values also.its hard to find the mentioned value on charts as we are new here


sell with sl above 2302

this is monthly pivot

cmp is 2285.u can sell here or else, wait for some time if price goes up to 2300 aprox, then u can sell

and sorry ali. casper is away i am posting on behalf of him, he will be back soon Very Happy
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Post: #1129   PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no problem vishy bhai
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Post: #1130   PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vishytns wrote:
hiii

I am posting on behalf of casper as he is out for some urgent reason, he will be back in some time and will resume updating u


but the show must go on!!!!

as of now, cumminsind made a low of 741. we can book here, or can trail it for further down side. cmp 741.5

if we are to trail it, then we can keep an sl just above the weekly s1 at 745 range



hiii anna. thanks for ur support

this is called jugalbandi
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now we have hdfcbank in our hand, yes, strong positive divergence is seen, price will retrace to pivot level before going down

those who are already short here,can keep an 60 min candle close above 2300 as ur sl

those who are yet to short it can wait for a break down after touching this level
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Post: #1131   PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

our good old nifty is taking monthly pivot support at 6000

we have some positive divergence in 5 min tf an din 5 min tf it looks like a double bottom movement. above 6000. it can give us a 20 pts up move, so better be careful bears!!!!



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Post: #1132   PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wat tgt u look in hdfc bank
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Post: #1133   PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2270-2260 max

it made a low of 2270 already. but for those who have shorted now , i mean after touching pivot at 2299 in last candle, i expect 2270 again
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Post: #1134   PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just to confirm,, all levels are for intraday ??
casper wrote:
2270-2260 max

it made a low of 2270 already. but for those who have shorted now , i mean after touching pivot at 2299 in last candle, i expect 2270 again
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Post: #1135   PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you advise we play the Nifty right now. Its taking good support at 6000 but testing it continuously. The bears seem to have the upper hand.

Any insight will be useful..How do we decide what position to take by EoD..

Thanks,
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Post: #1136   PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ali522003 wrote:
its my bad luck that i was unable to trade in any of your call today.. but they were good.
Is there any kind of alert we can set in forum so we can be notified when ever a new post comes.


during registration, we have to submit an email id

whenever we post in any thread, we get an email alert in our id for all future replies/postings (made by whomever) in that thread

so u can check that

or else, stay logged in here, and refresh the page time to time. as i am trying to provide candle to candle update and mostly i use 60 min candles. so if u check in every hour, probably u will get the update

generally i post my initial calls(like which stocks to looks for) either late at night or around 9 am before trading

then which gives me desired move, i will update that only
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Post: #1137   PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

casper hi,
today u seems to be doing gr8.
I need to understand 2 things from you.
1. u normally refer to positive divergence. what is it and how to use it?
2. Is single candle closing above/below bo/bd level, sufficient to ascertain that sl is hit?
thanks and regards
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Post: #1138   PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ali522003 wrote:
just to confirm,, all levels are for intraday ??
casper wrote:
2270-2260 max

it made a low of 2270 already. but for those who have shorted now , i mean after touching pivot at 2299 in last candle, i expect 2270 again


yes

only if we sit with good profit then we can carry it

i rarely carry my loss. and short cash calls can not be carried, if u r trading with future then only u can carry it. my levels are cash levels
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Post: #1139   PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

singh.ravee wrote:
casper hi,
today u seems to be doing gr8.
I need to understand 2 things from you.
1. u normally refer to positive divergence. what is it and how to use it?
2. Is single candle closing above/below bo/bd level, sufficient to ascertain that sl is hit?
thanks and regards
ravee


ravee divergence needs a little in depth discussion. for now, u can see ravi sir's thread, he wrote in details in past. i will write after ig get some lil time

and as per level /sl breaching

suppose i am buying with a green candle above the monthly and other wise
favorable condition

now due to any reason, price goes down and closes below the pivot level

now we already know that pivot levels are strong levels, so that strong levels which were supporting my action, will now resist my upmove

and being it a strong level,it will be very hard for the price to breach again it and come up of it

so either price will get choppy below that level or more likely is, price will have a free fall as i will sell, u will sell, all of the indina market traders, those who uses pivot levels will sell(pivots are no secret, its widely popular among the trader)
some will sell as a rule of their trading system, some will sell automatically as the sl will be breached. and some body like me Very Happy will sell in panic

so over all, after breaching a level. supply will be greater and price will fall for sure. this i wrote about a buy call

same goes for a sell call also

in that case, we sell at resistance and if that resistance is breached then demand will be more, bcoz now trader will use that resistance as their new support, so this higher demand will make price higher
so our sell call will make enormous loss if we dont regard this levels very carefully


for divergence

check ravi sirs article in this link


http://www.icharts.in/forum/trading-divergences-t2170,postorder,desc,start,70.html
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Post: #1140   PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry guys

was busy in replying so could not update u

our hdfcbank darling made a low of 2276, now trading at 2280, we could book some of our bulks there

but no point to blame on luck now

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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