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a layman's approach to break out and break down
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Post: #2026   PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Indiavix v/s Nifty Reply with quote

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drjinwala wrote:
I think nifty will go down as indiavix Volatality index is heading up Nifty will tumble down. Be carefull.


Seen bloodbath in Nifty? Nifty down 146 points.


congratualtion for prediction and thanks for the chart

Very Happy

a foolish question..... what is the relation of vix with nifty? will

volatility index is mirror for the bottoms n tops of the markets.....if someone is so predictable for bottoms n tops of vix, he/she can easily grasp his/her trades on profitable sides by trading in nifty....
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Post: #2027   PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Indiavix v/s Nifty Reply with quote

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casper wrote:
drjinwala wrote:
drjinwala wrote:
I think nifty will go down as indiavix Volatality index is heading up Nifty will tumble down. Be carefull.


Seen bloodbath in Nifty? Nifty down 146 points.


congratualtion for prediction and thanks for the chart

Very Happy

a foolish question..... what is the relation of vix with nifty? will

volatility index is mirror for the bottoms n tops of the markets.....if someone is so predictable for bottoms n tops of vix, he/she can easily grasp his/her trades on profitable sides by trading in nifty....



thanks for ur input chrome sir

but vix is volatility index which goes up or down by measuring the traders mentality

hence its not a advance indicator, so predicting any thing only for vix rating itself and not looking at charts is a lil crazy way in my view

that why i put this question

i just wanted to know from the fellow that as in case of a bearish pattern like descending triangle or h/s which gives us a negative break almost every time, does a high vix should be used for this only?

in other word,

can vix chart replace the chart patterns?


as for the fall, we have bearish sign from long back and i myself was posting the same form last sunday indicating a 150 pts fall below 5400

but i had chart pattern to measure a target and my question is - if only vix can be used instead of chart patterns?
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Post: #2028   PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:09 am    Post subject: Re: Indiavix v/s Nifty Reply with quote

casper wrote:
drjinwala wrote:
drjinwala wrote:
I think nifty will go down as indiavix Volatality index is heading up Nifty will tumble down. Be carefull.


Seen bloodbath in Nifty? Nifty down 146 points.


congratualtion for prediction and thanks for the chart

Very Happy

a foolish question..... what is the relation of vix with nifty? will it go up before market fall or will it go up simultaneously with market fall?

if it moves in tandem (in opposite direction) with nifty then how a prediction can be made with it accurately?

hope u will kindly explain it


Sir, Not a single indicator in alone is useful but combination of various indicators are useful for further prediction. Vix indicator shows fear factor. Rising vix from 22 to 28 level shows fear factor.
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Post: #2029   PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:54 am    Post subject: Re: Indiavix v/s Nifty Reply with quote

drjinwala wrote:

Sir, Not a single indicator in alone is useful but combination of various indicators are useful for further prediction. Vix indicator shows fear factor. Rising vix from 22 to 28 level shows fear factor.



yes sir, i just wanted this statement from u Very Happy Very Happy

we have to see the total situation before concluding and depending only on a single parameter may confuse us too

u know this thread is followed by so many peoples mostly freshers, so whenever i write here, i try to make things simple, now if they see a post stating nifty has gone down only due to vix, they will be confused and next time they will loose money


so, to make the thing clear, i asked u those questions, hope u will understand this,

u have done a great job by mentioning the vix aspects, plz keep it up

thanks and regards
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Post: #2030   PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi............casper

to day is rail buget..........wt u think abt titagarh wagon now @388.............it may go up further??............pls comments on this

thanks
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Post: #2031   PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hi............casper

to day is rail buget..........wt u think abt titagarh wagon now @388.............it may go up further??............pls comments on this

thanks
anand


today is like the d-day for railway stocks, any quota/order/incentive increase and decrease will effect heavily today, so personally i will tell u to keep away from twl, stone india, graphite, kalindi and other railways stocks, technicals wont help today

its real time chart is not covered by ichart, as per Google chart, it shows bearish rsi , which can lead to a fall below 387

but, u see, any good/bad news will change its course
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Post: #2032   PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi...........casper

thanks for ur comments

thanks
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Post: #2033   PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:23 pm    Post subject: DT in NF 5 mins... Reply with quote

DT in NF 5 mins...
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Post: #2034   PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear casper,finally hindalco breaks 201 after being rangebound for so long in 200/220 area and went to 195odd level and closed at 200.05.....what will be the action, any tgts upside or downside...which will be the favourable position...plz advise...
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Post: #2035   PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dear casper,finally hindalco breaks 201 after being rangebound for so long in 200/220 area and went to 195odd level and closed at 200.05.....what will be the action, any tgts upside or downside...which will be the favourable position...plz advise...



monday will be a day when all rules will be written afresh, old rules will be revised...... predicting some thing for monday is beyond my capacity

in general, 197 and 190 will act as tremendous support and going above 213 is tough as of now

but, as i said, lets see what PRANAB BABU does on monday morning


i am planning to enjoy the budget speech over a cup of tea here

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Post: #2036   PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha casper bro, will adapt the same technique of enjoying the budet with a sip of tea.....anyways thks for your reply...Rgds
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Post: #2037   PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DEAR CASPER
RANBAXY gave huge profit in feb falling all the way from 548 to 429 a fall of staggering 22% using ur guidance. thanx alot brother!
now could u pl give ur fresh update for it?
thanking u in anticipation
regs
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Post: #2038   PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dear Casperda, kichu idea dao nifty kon dike jabe.....
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Post: #2039   PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ridinghood wrote:
DEAR CASPER
RANBAXY gave huge profit in feb falling all the way from 548 to 429 a fall of staggering 22% using ur guidance. thanx alot brother!
now could u pl give ur fresh update for it?
thanking u in anticipation
regs
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hi brother, nice to know it gave u good moves, u know, being day trader, i look for positional aspects of a stock only when any of u ask me, so have not checked ranbaxy for a long time

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ok as of now, rsi in daily chart is heavily over-sold and stock has reached its one of the crucial support which is around 430, we have trend lines here
so we can expect a bounce back from here

if it bounces back from here, i think 465-470 range should be target, and we can buy it with a sl below 430, may be around 425 in hourly chart

(no sign of bounce back as of now in the chart, just expecting it for the following reason

1. rsi OS

2. confluence of trend lines

3. global situation is strengthening, specially, crude is a lil down)


in case it breaks below 425 and stays there, i think 417 and even lower, 395 should be our stop

but due to rsi is oversold, a pull back, may be minor one, is likely



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Post: #2040   PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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dear Casperda, kichu idea dao nifty kon dike jabe.....


hii prasenjit


yesterday was budget and in market, the day was a dozi one, (neutral day, open and close is same), so i really dont know which way market is planning to go, our problem is crude, if crude rises, govt hv to rise fuel price, which will increase inflation, if inflation rises,rbi will increase the rates, if rate rises companies would have to pay more for their borrowings, which will result in market fall. so u can see, a chain reaction here

now the good news is crude is falling as of now, so we can expect a pull back in nifty

by da way, why crude is rising??

simply bcoz, gaddafi dear is killing his own peoples, so if he starts killing again, crude will go up and all our calculations will be in vein


now in such a situation, lets see what chart says


we have strong resi around 5355-5365, if we dont cross it then better not expect any pull back, above it, we have 5405-5420 also, above which, we can expect a good up move

in case we break below 5305, we will hv another 100-150 pts down fall, at least in theory, due to the chart i am attaching with this post



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