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a layman's approach to break out and break down
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sangi
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Post: #2956   PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:41 pm    Post subject: hcltech-30m Reply with quote

Sumeshji,

I hv attached hcltech-30m chart? Is this a proper DT? Pl. comment and correct.

Rgds,
Sangi



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Post: #2957   PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 5:12 pm    Post subject: Re: hcltech-30m Reply with quote

sangi wrote:
Sumeshji,

I hv attached hcltech-30m chart? Is this a proper DT? Pl. comment and correct.

Rgds,
Sangi


ur lower tl is not so good, it should be retested more often to show that a support (viz buying) is coming from that tl, besides u hv divergence not only in 30 min but also in 60 min too,

so over all i feel it will go up if it breaks the upper tl

BE CAREFUL FOR + DIV IN DT AND - DIV IN AT....... ALWAYS



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Post: #2958   PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:45 pm    Post subject: Re: hcltech-30m Reply with quote

casper wrote:
sangi wrote:
Sumeshji,

I hv attached hcltech-30m chart? Is this a proper DT? Pl. comment and correct.

Rgds,
Sangi


ur lower tl is not so good, it should be retested more often to show that a support (viz buying) is coming from that tl, besides u hv divergence not only in 30 min but also in 60 min too,

so over all i feel it will go up if it breaks the upper tl

BE CAREFUL FOR + DIV IN DT AND - DIV IN AT....... ALWAYS


Casper bhai very correct, one must always pay attention to RSI in proper perspective..

Sangi, if u see my attached chart (60tf), you can see hcltech is clearly in downtrend after breaking down TL, however, there will always be some retrace back in such BO/BD cases, so if you want to short then try on rejection of 26 or 34 ema on hourly with SL of high of candle ...



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Post: #2959   PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:09 pm    Post subject: BAJAJ-AUTO Reply with quote

BAJAJ-AUTO..eod...
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Appears to be taking support on monthly pivot, if breaks and closes below it , then downside could be 1600/1550 !



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Post: #2960   PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:16 pm    Post subject: Re: BAJAJ-AUTO Reply with quote

sumesh_sol wrote:
BAJAJ-AUTO..eod...
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Appears to be taking support on monthly pivot, if breaks and closes below it , then downside could be 1600/1550 !
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Post: #2961   PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:03 pm    Post subject: Re: hcltech-30m Reply with quote

sumesh_sol wrote:
casper wrote:
sangi wrote:
Sumeshji,

I hv attached hcltech-30m chart? Is this a proper DT? Pl. comment and correct.

Rgds,
Sangi


ur lower tl is not so good, it should be retested more often to show that a support (viz buying) is coming from that tl, besides u hv divergence not only in 30 min but also in 60 min too,

so over all i feel it will go up if it breaks the upper tl

BE CAREFUL FOR + DIV IN DT AND - DIV IN AT....... ALWAYS



Casper bhai very correct, one must always pay attention to RSI in proper perspective..

Sangi, if u see my attached chart (60tf), you can see hcltech is clearly in downtrend after breaking down TL, however, there will always be some retrace back in such BO/BD cases, so if you want to short then try on rejection of 26 or 34 ema on hourly with SL of high of candle ...


Casperji/sumeshji,

Thank u very much! you both are doing an excellent job by guiding the beginners like me. So kind of u Very Happy

regds,
Sangi
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Post: #2962   PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sumeshji,

pl. comment on the chart of cipla-15m. Is is a valid ST?



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Post: #2963   PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:39 pm    Post subject: INDUSINDBK Reply with quote

INDUSINDBK..60tf
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Identified by nitin sir using his method of 12/26 crossover..
I saw one DT pattern, so posting here for everyone's benefit..
If closes below 245 on hourly can give 10 rs fall..



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Post: #2964   PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

arvind EOD chart ....


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Post: #2965   PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nifty Weekly chart with RSI +div and a +WW formation.Also a double bottom formation observed at point 5. A historical
-WW which failed to reach the target was also marked.

(P.S : You are right vinay, reposting the Chart! Thanks)



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Post: #2966   PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correct me if I am wrong, RK. A +ve div should be shown by higher lows on rsi for lower lows on nifty. It does show here but you have drawn TL joining higher highs on rsi.

Attaching what I mean. Also, see STS.

Casper - your expert comments pl



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Post: #2967   PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rk_a2003 wrote:
Nifty Weekly chart with RSI +div and a +WW formation.Also a double bottom formation observed at point 5. A historical
-WW which failed to reach the target was also marked.

(P.S : You are right vinay, reposting the Chart! Thanks)


hi rk. a hunch regarding to +ww. once rev from pt 5 & then retest LTL after failed attempt to cross UTL. is it still valid as per +ww? another caution regarding to TF. larger the TF, more risk involved on failure considering larger sl with larger TF. it's on w'ly & sl comes @ 4639 cash cmp is 4932. so it's 300 pts risk with nos of weeks/mths to reach tg. so it's for deep pocket & patience ones. although good one for general idea of possible dir in general. let me know if i'm mistaking somewhere. regards.
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Post: #2968   PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are absolutely right Peace

It's just for an understanding. Larger T.F is difficult to trade at least for small Traders. In my earlier posts I mentioned it and thought that no need to mention this time. However in my future posts will take care to mention .

Reg.WW I observed a common phenomenon especially in EOD and above TF that at point 5 after making D.B the wave is reaching the targets. That’s why i made it a point to look for that, that too... If with RSI Div it is better.

WW explanation may accommodate it as long as the peak of this wave did not violate UTL.But the bigger this wave the more ww nullified. In this case the wave is considerable .I thought due to strong RSI div may be we can consider this WW.

My main stress is on RSI div that's why I posted it here.WW is supplementary.

However the main purpose of this post is academic not to trade let us see how it goes.
peace69 wrote:
rk_a2003 wrote:
Nifty Weekly chart with RSI +div and a +WW formation.Also a double bottom formation observed at point 5. A historical
-WW which failed to reach the target was also marked.

(P.S : You are right vinay, reposting the Chart! Thanks)


hi rk. a hunch regarding to +ww. once rev from pt 5 & then retest LTL after failed attempt to cross UTL. is it still valid as per +ww? another caution regarding to TF. larger the TF, more risk involved on failure considering larger sl with larger TF. it's on w'ly & sl comes @ 4639 cash cmp is 4932. so it's 300 pts risk with nos of weeks/mths to reach tg. so it's for deep pocket & patience ones. although good one for general idea of possible dir in general. let me know if i'm mistaking somewhere. regards.
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Post: #2969   PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andhra Bank EOD made a double bottom with +ve Div. Can we dare to go long?! .......Further Commentory/Analysis.... Welcome.


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Post: #2970   PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

105.85 taken out u can go long with sl 100 carry posn with risk of 5.85 and target of 110-116-123 above 123 closes then 139 possible otherwise then 81 theory only.... Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy f and o rates...
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