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a layman's approach to break out and break down
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singh.ravee
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Post: #766   PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sumesh ji,
jara cipla 60tf ke chart ko is tarah se dekho.
1. similar triangle
2. volume falling during the formation of triangle. so chart conditions met
3. macd buy signal. second last candle still below falling trend line.
4. next candle breakout above falling line.
5. as per casper, if macd buy signal is obtained before actual breakout, then possibility of true breakout is higher.
6. so lets expect a good run from here.
rgds
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Post: #767   PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="sumesh_sol"]
deepakms wrote:
Sumesh/Casper ,

Andhra bank trading flat and ascending upwards,but can it break out ?
Ur comments pls...........

Thnx/Rgds
Deeppak[/quot

Hi Deepak,
Like you said, it is trading flat... means there in not much encouraging MACD and RSI builtup while pattern formation.. If market trades higher, it might also breaks out, but the strenght to sustain and move rapidly is less because of weak MACD and RSI so far...

It will get strong resistance at around 153-154, because of TL and presence of 89 SMA(hourly)

This is my observation, I may be wrong also.....




i am adding only one point here Very Happy
let us enter here only after a break upon the 89 ema with increased volume, in that case the bo will sustain and macd /rsi will get more strength due to added volume

for an example,see the present average vol per candle during pattern formation is below 1 lakh. if the bo candle makes a vol at least 1.5-2 lakh, then we can say that demand is surging for the stock and we can expect around 160 levels soon
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Post: #768   PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

singh.ravee wrote:
Sumesh ji,
jara cipla 60tf ke chart ko is tarah se dekho.
1. similar triangle
2. volume falling during the formation of triangle. so chart conditions met
3. macd buy signal. second last candle still below falling trend line.
4. next candle breakout above falling line.
5. as per casper, if macd buy signal is obtained before actual breakout, then possibility of true breakout is higher.
6. so lets expect a good run from here.
rgds
ravee

wow ravi. nicely explained just one thing i am asking. did u mean symmetrical triangle by similar triangle?

the way u ppls are participating, i am sure that soon u will be able to compete any professional trader!!!

i am so happy to see you progress by leaps and bounds, plz keep it up

by the way, plz write me about ur experience with st sir's thread. was not it of great help?
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Post: #769   PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

casper wrote:

wow ravi. nicely explained just one thing i am asking. did u mean symmetrical triangle by similar triangle?

the way u ppls are participating, i am sure that soon u will be able to compete any professional trader!!!

i am so happy to see you progress by leaps and bounds, plz keep it up

by the way, plz write me about ur experience with st sir's thread. was not it of great help?


For me symmetrical triangle= similar triangle.

ST sir's thread is a good experience. It has improved my intraday entry points in a stock signficantly.

Lets hope that ST sir soon restart a thread for the benefit of all.

rgds
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Post: #770   PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:16 pm    Post subject: EIHOTEL.. 60 tf.. Reply with quote

EIHOTEL.. 60 tf..
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Can breakdown to the level of 107 ..

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Post: #771   PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:40 am    Post subject: auro pharma Reply with quote

will this bo sustain on monday?
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Post: #772   PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: auro pharma Reply with quote

girishhu1 wrote:
will this bo sustain on monday?
regards,
girish


while pattern in real time is some what not so impressive but in eod it looks good

we need to watch out its reaction at 1350, it is weekly r2. monthly r1 and it is the recent top which was formed on november 8th

as per eod chart, above 1350, we can expect at least 1400 and then 1450
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Post: #773   PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:20 am    Post subject: Re: HERO HONDA Reply with quote

casper wrote:
yawalkar wrote:
Dear Casper,
Can you check hero honda? On 5 m t/f there is just 2-3 Rs. movement from morning.
What going to happen?


sorry brother. i was very busy. so could not see ur post. hero honda already did well. i hope u have got good profit from it

right now in 60 min tf. it has got 34 ema and weekly s1 just above the last candle. so we can get good moves only after breaking them

Dear ALL,
Here I am posting my wonderful experience with I chart.
On Thursday 16.12.2010 I have decided to trade with herohonda as it was down on Wednesday.
I watched hero Honda move till 10.0 am. When it crossed 34 ema I bought a 1650 call at 64 rs.
Within half hour it touches 1650 at 89 ema. After it slips down till 1623. And after that I have seen only 2-5 Rs. move in that. Indicator details are shown in chart. MACD near zero line, RSI flat, very low volume. So I am very nervous. But I have added one more indicator DMI. I have read About DMI last night (Wednesday) I don’t remember from which thread I read it. But as per this indicator an uptrend is forming. My hopes were only on this indicator. You can see the candles in chart from 10.45am to 2.00 pm. I was very nervous because all other indicators are not in my favor. But DMI index was moved from 25 to 50 in this period. And at last at 2.05 pm herohonda started to move in upward & touched 1700. At that time my 1650 call was at Rs. 95.
So thanks to all I chart member who are sharing there knowledge with newbie. I give my thanks to I chart team who has given such a wonderful software.
I am not happy because I got a profit but I learn a most wonderful experience from I chart and software.
Thanks A lot…… to all my seniors , I chart owner and my new friends.
Laughing Laughing Laughing



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Post: #774   PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:15 am    Post subject: Re: HERO HONDA Reply with quote

yawalkar wrote:
casper wrote:
yawalkar wrote:
Dear Casper,
Can you check hero honda? On 5 m t/f there is just 2-3 Rs. movement from morning.
What going to happen?


sorry brother. i was very busy. so could not see ur post. hero honda already did well. i hope u have got good profit from it

right now in 60 min tf. it has got 34 ema and weekly s1 just above the last candle. so we can get good moves only after breaking them

Dear ALL,
Here I am posting my wonderful experience with I chart.
On Thursday 16.12.2010 I have decided to trade with herohonda as it was down on Wednesday.
I watched hero Honda move till 10.0 am. When it crossed 34 ema I bought a 1650 call at 64 rs.
Within half hour it touches 1650 at 89 ema. After it slips down till 1623. And after that I have seen only 2-5 Rs. move in that. Indicator details are shown in chart. MACD near zero line, RSI flat, very low volume. So I am very nervous. But I have added one more indicator DMI. I have read About DMI last night (Wednesday) I don’t remember from which thread I read it. But as per this indicator an uptrend is forming. My hopes were only on this indicator. You can see the candles in chart from 10.45am to 2.00 pm. I was very nervous because all other indicators are not in my favor. But DMI index was moved from 25 to 50 in this period. And at last at 2.05 pm herohonda started to move in upward & touched 1700. At that time my 1650 call was at Rs. 95.
So thanks to all I chart member who are sharing there knowledge with newbie. I give my thanks to I chart team who has given such a wonderful software.
I am not happy because I got a profit but I learn a most wonderful experience from I chart and software.
Thanks A lot…… to all my seniors , I chart owner and my new friends.
Laughing Laughing Laughing



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first it was girish.hu1,newinvestor then vishy.tns followed by mr.vishal_g and sing.ravee, now its u brother yawalker. and i know one more who stays all the day wid me form 9 am to 10.30 pm everyday, wid some breaks Wink
looks like u are progressing such a way that soon we,who are trading a little longer, are going to get a tough time Very Happy Very Happy

i have always prayed and will be always praying that may the HOLY MOTHER bless you with more and more success and may all of you enjoy a lot while you discover newer avenues in the wonderful world of technical analysis, AMEN


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Post: #775   PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Casper
Hello,
I am attaching eod chart of nifty spot.
1. I could see a double bottom formation in nifty spot around 5750 level marked by upward arrows.
2. Neckline of the pattern lies around 6015.
3. 50ema= 5950.
4. MACD is in buy mode.
4. If nifty moves up then it will be breaking 50 ema as well as neckline of pattern. In such scenario there will be double confirmation of the uptrend.

I think if pattern completes succesfully then one can think of going long on nifty above 6030 level for target of 6250 and sl= 6000. One has to adjust the nifty futures figures accordingly based upon the premium.

Kindly share your observation on attached chart.

Thanks and regards

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Post: #776   PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:10 am    Post subject: Re: HERO HONDA Reply with quote

Great going guys, Sumesh and Casper provide their experiences everyday, I think you should also start posting your intraday calls and findings, Share your results of the trade. I think casper and sumesh can guide you long way.

Casper and Sumesh, great mentoring buddies.....Keep up the good work...
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casper wrote:
yawalkar wrote:
casper wrote:
yawalkar wrote:
Dear Casper,
Can you check hero honda? On 5 m t/f there is just 2-3 Rs. movement from morning.
What going to happen?


sorry brother. i was very busy. so could not see ur post. hero honda already did well. i hope u have got good profit from it

right now in 60 min tf. it has got 34 ema and weekly s1 just above the last candle. so we can get good moves only after breaking them

Dear ALL,
Here I am posting my wonderful experience with I chart.
On Thursday 16.12.2010 I have decided to trade with herohonda as it was down on Wednesday.
I watched hero Honda move till 10.0 am. When it crossed 34 ema I bought a 1650 call at 64 rs.
Within half hour it touches 1650 at 89 ema. After it slips down till 1623. And after that I have seen only 2-5 Rs. move in that. Indicator details are shown in chart. MACD near zero line, RSI flat, very low volume. So I am very nervous. But I have added one more indicator DMI. I have read About DMI last night (Wednesday) I don’t remember from which thread I read it. But as per this indicator an uptrend is forming. My hopes were only on this indicator. You can see the candles in chart from 10.45am to 2.00 pm. I was very nervous because all other indicators are not in my favor. But DMI index was moved from 25 to 50 in this period. And at last at 2.05 pm herohonda started to move in upward & touched 1700. At that time my 1650 call was at Rs. 95.
So thanks to all I chart member who are sharing there knowledge with newbie. I give my thanks to I chart team who has given such a wonderful software.
I am not happy because I got a profit but I learn a most wonderful experience from I chart and software.
Thanks A lot…… to all my seniors , I chart owner and my new friends.
Laughing Laughing Laughing



clap2 clap2 clap2

first it was girish.hu1,newinvestor then vishy.tns followed by mr.vishal_g and sing.ravee, now its u brother yawalker. and i know one more who stays all the day wid me form 9 am to 10.30 pm everyday, wid some breaks Wink
looks like u are progressing such a way that soon we,who are trading a little longer, are going to get a tough time Very Happy Very Happy

i have always prayed and will be always praying that may the HOLY MOTHER bless you with more and more success and may all of you enjoy a lot while you discover newer avenues in the wonderful world of technical analysis, AMEN


ymca ( this smile is called YMCA for me its YOUNG MEN CHARTIST ASSOCIATION)
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Post: #777   PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Casper/Sumesh,
I am attaching the charts of Reliance AT and Reliance inverse Head and shoulders.
Please comment on the charts and targets.
Inverse head and shoulders has broken out and Ascending triangle is yet to break out. Looks like reliance is getting ready for good move upside.

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Post: #778   PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reliance Inverse head and Shoulders.


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Post: #779   PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Casper/Sumesh,

Cup and Handle formation in InfosysTCh, Actually this formation is seen even in IT index. I was not able to get the IT index chart.Break out has already happened.

Your comments and targets.
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Post: #780   PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Casper/Sumesh,
Inverse Head and Shoulders in CNXIT. Please provide your comments and targets.

Note: When ever a break out happens in inverse head and shoulders, i have seen there would be retracement to neck line again and price would take support at neck line price again will move up.

Even in the case of cup and handle u sould expect a retracement to cup and handle break out line. So u can place your trades accordingly.

Casper/Sumesh, Please let us know how to trade cup and handle, inverse head and shoulders.

Vishy



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