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Post: #121  Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:35 am Post subject: |
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Triggering masses to revolt or creating rebel forces within the country is not a difficult job for US.... there are routes like sanctions also as in case of Iran, supporting local rival politicians etc... It depends how aggressive Castro or Chavez get and how much they really matter for resources etc.
Chavez is suffering from cancer , his days are numbered anyway...this info is in public domain.... ok I am not suggesting anything here !!! |
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| Post: #122 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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Ajay,
Do you think that the U.S. didn't try anything like that in Cuba??? They tried every trick in their armoury but in vain. They did try everything against Chavez also. But he is still there, with the same voice. By the way, you shouldn't believe anything which is in the public domain. Especially about these guys (chavez and all). It is true that the guy is sick....with some kinda cancer. But terming it as the end, might be foolishness.
You said "It depends how aggressive Castro or Chavez get and how much they really matter for resources etc". You should consider the fact that Venezuela is the world's largest oil-reserves holder. It is America's fifth biggest source of imported oil, supplying about a million barrels a day. It was alleged earlier that America attacked Iraq and all to secure the oil for their country. If it was easy to topple the Chavez government, America could have got the cheap oil from the neighborhood itself...But they couldn't do anything to him. They did try everything including creating riots within their countries. But they were all short lived. Chavez is still there, with his head high.
Note: I'm not a supporter or any of these leaders. In fact, I have a feeling that Socialism and Communism are outdated. |
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| Post: #123 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Psalm, even capitalism is outdated! And some argue, democracy too! 
By the way, chavez may be a devil, but at least he openly shows the midle finger to US. |
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| Post: #124 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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That's correct.....  |
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| Post: #125 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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Well said Vinay
psalm .... you know how dadagiri is done and how compromises are made... US fomentS trouble , a backdoor handshake is made... you scratch my back and I scratch yours...this is not usually in the public domain....wink wink
Try refusing the nuclear deal( they even got Abdul Kalam to certify !) , killing FDI in retail .... a new government will be put in place to push it thru
We all love underdogs ... but no one wants to eat roadkill |
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| Post: #126 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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roadkill is "haraam" to eat, ajay!  |
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| Post: #127 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Post: #128 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Post: #129 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| AJAYHKAUL wrote: | | As mentioned earlier it all depends if and when the QE ie money printing starts ! The market needs the third dose of steroids! |
U.S. stocks are modestly lower ahead of the bell, despite data showing record lending by the European Central Bank (ECB). Earlier, futures were pointed higher on news that the ECB loaned 489 billion euros to 523 banks for an average of three years, marking the central bank's heftiest infusion of credit in the history of the euro zone. However, a lackluster earnings showing from tech titan Oracle (ORCL) is helping to rain on the bulls' parade, with the major market indexes set to pare a portion of yesterday's advance. |
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| Post: #130 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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Yes US and Europe are down and so is sgxnifty by 40.
Indian IT is nervous with call centre bill introduced, just now, in US. |
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| Post: #131 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Allow FDI in retail else.......!!! Take nuclear deal else......!!! Buy fighter aircraft else....!!! |
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| Post: #132 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| AJAYHKAUL wrote: | | Allow FDI in retail else.......!!! Take nuclear deal else......!!! Buy fighter aircraft else....!!! |
I don't think even that is required in Indian case.Our rulers are so spineless. |
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| Post: #133 Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:08 am Post subject: |
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| rk_a2003 wrote: | Ajay
Your write up “Markets in 2012 -- another view” is hitting the bull’s eye. You decoded convincingly how the crisis after crisis emerge in this Economy and subsequently how they were managed.
Technological breakthroughs and inventions too aid in this effort. Transferring the part of the crisis on to the emerging countries is also another trick of the developed world which was often adapted.
The million dollar question is every time are they able to manage?! Will there not be a point where things will change radically and this system collapse and altogether a new system which is qualitatively different and progressive will emerge from it.
We don’t know yet. At least there are no such signs as of now.
So, there are two other possibilities as per your projection they may manage as usual and pump up the Economy/ Market or the whole system is dragged in to chaos .The possibility for the latter is remote. Though can not be ruled out.
So can we conclude that the time is nearing for Bottom Fishing….To pick your stocks which are fundamentally strong and which remain so for a reasonable time?!.
Is anyone there who can offer the advice?!. |
RK is your bottom fishing line already operational? |
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| Post: #134 Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:53 am Post subject: |
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Here are the numbers I dreamt of
5053, 5165, 4826, 5249 & 5435 ........... and then? |
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| Post: #135 Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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FII are still fiddling ... market has retraced 25% of the recent drop ....
RK seems to have gone fishing...
Vinay your lowest dream number is 4826...
Mr Singh says RBI will lower interest rates and that the Industry captains should not get negative on the country... |
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