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Buy price for Natural Gas and Crudeoil
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yogeswaran
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Post: #1   PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:27 am    Post subject: Buy price for Natural Gas and Crudeoil Reply with quote

At which price i can buy the Natural gas and Crudeoil? Please tell the stoploss also...
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Post: #2   PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Buy price for Natural Gas and Crudeoil Reply with quote

yogeswaran wrote:
At which price i can buy the Natural gas and Crudeoil? Please tell the stoploss also...


Hi

I had done some analysis on my own which proves to be worthwhile.

Below zones act as Strong Reversal zones for Crudeoil today

R3 - 3902
R2 - 3871
R1 - 3840

S1 - 3778
S2 - 3748
S3 - 3717

If before 8-9 PM , R1/R2 is hit , place sell at the point or if S1/S2 is hit , buy at this point. Target 20-30 points
You can observe it today and see if it works.. I will try posting such levels everyday. As per my strategy , yesterday's R2 & R3 were 8913 & 8944 and you can see how the market reversed from high of 3928
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Post: #3   PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Buy price for Natural Gas and Crudeoil Reply with quote

pavan29 wrote:
yogeswaran wrote:
At which price i can buy the Natural gas and Crudeoil? Please tell the stoploss also...


Hi

I had done some analysis on my own which proves to be worthwhile.

Below zones act as Strong Reversal zones for Crudeoil today

R3 - 3902
R2 - 3871
R1 - 3840

S1 - 3778
S2 - 3748
S3 - 3717

If before 8-9 PM , R1/R2 is hit , place sell at the point or if S1/S2 is hit , buy at this point. Target 20-30 points
You can observe it today and see if it works.. I will try posting such levels everyday. As per my strategy , yesterday's R2 & R3 were 8913 & 8944 and you can see how the market reversed from high of 3928


Hi small correction...

Enter only if R2/R3 or S2/S3 is triggered...Ignore R1 & S1 if you are using Mega lots


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Post: #4   PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One more way of working with minimum risk is to use 4 mini lots of Crude.

@ R1/S1 enter with 2 lots , 3rd lot @ R2/S2 & 4th @ R3/S3

Say if you entered @ R1/S1, set target for 15 points for 1 lot.

If R2/S2 is triggered , enter with 3rd lot at this level, again target 15-20 points.

Again if R3/S3 is triggered, enter with 4th lot and leave it to proceed till EOD as sometimes the reversals will touch 50-100 points

I am attaching the analysis sheet here. Yellow cells highlight the maximum level reached 1st followed by the target in green. I have highlighted the colors only if it is part of the calculated support / resistance zone. I leave it you all to calculate the profit / loss


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Post: #5   PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lets calculate:

R1 hit, sell with 1 mini lot @ 3840 , target - 3825/3820
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Post: #6   PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

THANKS FOR STARING THREAD FOR CRUDE N NG.
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Post: #7   PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

THANKS FOR STARING THREAD FOR CRUDE N NG.
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Post: #8   PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sell one more @ 3871

Target 3850
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Post: #9   PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Target 1 hit from 3871 to 3850, profit

+ 21 points

Holding 1 lot @ 3840 , set target as 3820 / 3805

If R3 gets triggered, blindly sell one lot with target 3840.

That should give

R2 Sell -> +21 pts
R1 Sell -> +20 pts
R3 sell -> +60 pts

Lets see how things work.
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Post: #10   PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pavan29 wrote:
Target 1 hit from 3871 to 3850, profit

+ 21 points

Holding 1 lot @ 3840 , set target as 3820 / 3805

If R3 gets triggered, blindly sell one lot with target 3840.

That should give

R2 Sell -> +21 pts
R1 Sell -> +20 pts
R3 sell -> +60 pts

Lets see how things work.


R1 sell target of 20 pts achieved.

Done for the day. total 41 pts
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Post: #11   PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

please move to commodity section

thanks
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Post: #12   PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pavan29 dear

What is stop for All lots for intra day trade which it is I guess......how many points above r3/s3. Is it contra trade set up?

What's given below my understanding is even from r1 to r3 or s1 to s3 the trade continues in "reversal mode" ( selling at r1 and selling at r2) with added leverage of mini lots......though contemporary above r1 IT should be considered buy and so similar for below s1 sell. Not sure if I missed something I'm a hurry.

How long trading this....
Let's see the result when crude starts to trend in next 7-10 days and becomes a one side trade on many days and there is expansion in ATR as well which means the pivots will be placed farther away from each other.

Good execution .
Look forward.
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Post: #13   PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

amitagg wrote:
Pavan29 dear

What is stop for All lots for intra day trade which it is I guess......how many points above r3/s3. Is it contra trade set up?

What's given below my understanding is even from r1 to r3 or s1 to s3 the trade continues in "reversal mode" ( selling at r1 and selling at r2) with added leverage of mini lots......though contemporary above r1 IT should be considered buy and so similar for below s1 sell. Not sure if I missed something I'm a hurry.

How long trading this....
Let's see the result when crude starts to trend in next 7-10 days and becomes a one side trade on many days and there is expansion in ATR as well which means the pivots will be placed farther away from each other.

Good execution .
Look forward.


Amitagg

I have designed this system last week only but back tested it since May. Seems fine to me...The R3 is the maximum movement we can expect in a day , rarely it sometimes might go up another 30 points but will reverse from there too...It should not stay long after break of R3+30 points 95% of the time.

As you are aware, no system will be 100 % perfect. We will try to minimize risk by adding more lots @ R2/R3 levels and taking quick profits.

It is not advisable to use SL for this as of now as it might hit the SL and reverse causing unnecessary losses. The entire idea of the system is to let the bulls / bears run and enter when they are exhausted.

We should test this for some more days. However mini lot users can execute it.

Thanks for the compliment and support.

Will be posting calls from tomorrow as well but this will be only in Crude July series only.

We will see the result after 2 weeks.
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Post: #14   PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Todays levels for Crude July contract

R3 - 3979
R2 - 3948
R1 - 3916

S1 - 3854
S2 - 3823
S3 - 3792

As usual , mega lot users buy @ S2 & S3 / sell @ R2 & R3 with target 15-20 points

Mini lot users can enter @ all 3 levels.


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Post: #15   PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the upside, the price will not exceed R3 and downside, it should not exceed S2
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