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veerappan
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Post: #1  Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:21 am Post subject: caution in indian equities markets...veeru chennai boy.... |
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one fine bad morning indian equities will collapse... u dont have time to ..... take care...
if they give chance to exit... then fine...u have luck...if goes up that time also luck..bcoz u can put the stop loss for your longs .. enough time will be there.... but collapses? then ...so reduce the posn... sit with cash... i am not new
its a caution only.....what i am saying probabilities are more..... so y cant us reduce the longs .... or hedge the posn....?
take care
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veeru
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freedom
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| Post: #2 Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:28 am Post subject: Re: caution in indian equities markets...veeru chennai boy.. |
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| veerappan wrote: | one fine bad morning indian equities will collapse... u dont have time to ..... take care...
if they give chance to exit... then fine...u have luck...if goes up that time also luck..bcoz u can put the stop loss for your longs .. enough time will be there.... but collapses? then ...so reduce the posn... sit with cash... i am not new
its a caution only.....what i am saying probabilities are more..... so y cant us reduce the longs .... or hedge the posn....?
take care
bye
veeru
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Sir, is there any system that doesn't need stop loss. |
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shekharinvest
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| Post: #3 Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:44 am Post subject: Re: caution in indian equities markets...veeru chennai boy.. |
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| freedom wrote: |
Sir, is there any system that doesn't need stop loss. |
Yes !
Options give you the Freedom from placing stop loss.
But don't ever sell them. 
SHEKHAR |
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| Post: #4 Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:01 pm Post subject: Re: caution in indian equities markets...veeru chennai boy.. |
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| shekharinvest wrote: | | freedom wrote: |
Sir, is there any system that doesn't need stop loss. |
Yes !
Options give you the Freedom from placing stop loss.
But don't ever sell them.
SHEKHAR |
Well the difference between Stupidity & Generosity is the first one stands limitless & the second one is limited & if u don't know or understand anything rather keep quiet.
i had asked on a serious note if there is any system except SL. |
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veerappan
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| Post: #5 Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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| 5148 will it be tested or 5k? infy will change the things...... anyway now 5612-5656-are there.... down side 5555-5589 is there..... |
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| Post: #6 Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:25 pm Post subject: Re: caution in indian equities markets...veeru chennai boy.. |
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one fine bad morning indian equities will collapse... u dont have time to ..... take care...
yes Veeru, I agree with you. |
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| Post: #7 Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| veerappan wrote: | | 5148 will it be tested or 5k? infy will change the things...... anyway now 5612-5656-are there.... down side 5555-5589 is there..... |
Hi Veeru,
Reach 5148 is tough as hurdles are many ... 5612- 5589 -5555 -5500- 5454-5353.
My personal views
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| Post: #8 Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:09 pm Post subject: Re: caution in indian equities markets...veeru chennai boy.. |
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| freedom wrote: |
Well the difference between Stupidity & Generosity is the first one stands limitless & the second one is limited & if u don't know or understand anything rather keep quiet.
i had asked on a serious note if there is any system except SL. |
you can avoid stop loss if you wan't in any system. But that is not wise, because stop loss limits your loss. don't place stop losses too tight though, because more often than not we find the stop loss getting triggered and sale order made, and immediately the stock price rises.
You can use a simple moving average crossover strategy. buy when short term ma cuts from below the longer term ma. and sell when the opposite happens, if one did that from 2004 to 2009 in futures(going short and long) that fellow would have been enormously rich. |
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shekharinvest
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| Post: #9 Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:02 pm Post subject: Re: caution in indian equities markets...veeru chennai boy.. |
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| freedom wrote: | | shekharinvest wrote: | | freedom wrote: |
Sir, is there any system that doesn't need stop loss. |
Yes !
Options give you the Freedom from placing stop loss.
But don't ever sell them.
SHEKHAR |
Well the difference between Stupidity & Generosity is the first one stands limitless & the second one is limited & if u don't know or understand anything rather keep quiet.
i had asked on a serious note if there is any system except SL. |
.......rather keep quiet. Sane advise ! 
May god be with you.
SHEKHAR |
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freedom
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| Post: #10 Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:45 pm Post subject: Re: caution in indian equities markets...veeru chennai boy.. |
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| grizzlybull wrote: | | freedom wrote: |
Well the difference between Stupidity & Generosity is the first one stands limitless & the second one is limited & if u don't know or understand anything rather keep quiet.
i had asked on a serious note if there is any system except SL. |
you can avoid stop loss if you wan't in any system. But that is not wise, because stop loss limits your loss. don't place stop losses too tight though, because more often than not we find the stop loss getting triggered and sale order made, and immediately the stock price rises.
You can use a simple moving average crossover strategy. buy when short term ma cuts from below the longer term ma. and sell when the opposite happens, if one did that from 2004 to 2009 in futures(going short and long) that fellow would have been enormously rich. |
Could u elaborate more or give me some link, Please. |
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freedom
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| Post: #11 Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:47 pm Post subject: Re: caution in indian equities markets...veeru chennai boy.. |
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| shekharinvest wrote: | | freedom wrote: | | shekharinvest wrote: | | freedom wrote: |
Sir, is there any system that doesn't need stop loss. |
Yes !
Options give you the Freedom from placing stop loss.
But don't ever sell them.
SHEKHAR |
Well the difference between Stupidity & Generosity is the first one stands limitless & the second one is limited & if u don't know or understand anything rather keep quiet.
i had asked on a serious note if there is any system except SL. |
.......rather keep quiet. Sane advise !
May god be with you.
SHEKHAR |
There is nothing called sane advise, its sane advice, Please humble request keep out of this serious conversation. |
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freedom
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| Post: #12 Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| veerappan wrote: | | 5148 will it be tested or 5k? infy will change the things...... anyway now 5612-5656-are there.... down side 5555-5589 is there..... |
Infy Profit is down, will be gap down 2morrow. |
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grizzlybull
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| Post: #13 Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:53 pm Post subject: Re: caution in indian equities markets...veeru chennai boy.. |
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| freedom wrote: | | grizzlybull wrote: |
you can avoid stop loss if you wan't in any system. But that is not wise, because stop loss limits your loss. don't place stop losses too tight though, because more often than not we find the stop loss getting triggered and sale order made, and immediately the stock price rises.
You can use a simple moving average crossover strategy. buy when short term ma cuts from below the longer term ma. and sell when the opposite happens, if one did that from 2004 to 2009 in futures(going short and long) that fellow would have been enormously rich. |
Could u elaborate more or give me some link, Please. |
sure 
explanation of the 1st paragraph: say the stock price has a support of 50 rupees, don't set the stop loss at 49, set it at 45/46 etc. if u set at 49, it will get sold off at 49, and immediately after that it will shoot upto 52 or 54 
second is simple.
say, you have 2 moving averages, an 8 day and a 34 day moving average. when 8 goes above 34, BUY. when 8 goes below 34, SELL. no stop loss, just sell on crossover.
link to help you.
http://www.onlinetradingconcepts.com/TechnicalAnalysis/MASimple2.html
hope you understand... |
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veerappan
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| Post: #14 Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:57 pm Post subject: Re: caution in indian equities markets...veeru chennai boy.. |
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take care...
| veerappan wrote: | one fine bad morning indian equities will collapse... u dont have time to ..... take care...
if they give chance to exit... then fine...u have luck...if goes up that time also luck..bcoz u can put the stop loss for your longs .. enough time will be there.... but collapses? then ...so reduce the posn... sit with cash... i am not new
its a caution only.....what i am saying probabilities are more..... so y cant us reduce the longs .... or hedge the posn....?
take care
bye
veeru
chennai boy
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freedom
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| Post: #15 Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: caution in indian equities markets...veeru chennai boy.. |
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| grizzlybull wrote: | | freedom wrote: | | grizzlybull wrote: |
you can avoid stop loss if you wan't in any system. But that is not wise, because stop loss limits your loss. don't place stop losses too tight though, because more often than not we find the stop loss getting triggered and sale order made, and immediately the stock price rises.
You can use a simple moving average crossover strategy. buy when short term ma cuts from below the longer term ma. and sell when the opposite happens, if one did that from 2004 to 2009 in futures(going short and long) that fellow would have been enormously rich. |
Could u elaborate more or give me some link, Please. |
sure
explanation of the 1st paragraph: say the stock price has a support of 50 rupees, don't set the stop loss at 49, set it at 45/46 etc. if u set at 49, it will get sold off at 49, and immediately after that it will shoot upto 52 or 54
second is simple.
say, you have 2 moving averages, an 8 day and a 34 day moving average. when 8 goes above 34, BUY. when 8 goes below 34, SELL. no stop loss, just sell on crossover.
link to help you.
http://www.onlinetradingconcepts.com/TechnicalAnalysis/MASimple2.html
hope you understand... |
Humbled , Thanks again, One last request, can u show me some example with any nse stock. |
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