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amitagg Black Belt
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Post: #751 Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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While Aluminium is better in charts with inverse H and S breakout in place,,,, and trade in mentioned in previous post try Nickel is want to as per own system at BUY 698-701 target 707 / 715 stop 688 ( aggressive 692)
Opening levels to see for Both at 5.00pm |
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amitagg Black Belt
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Post: #752 Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Gold is a buy at 30250/70 target 30550 stop 29950
Cmp 30250-280 |
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amitagg Black Belt
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Post: #753 Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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amitagg wrote: | Buying Aluminium at 115.2, 114.4, 113
Stop 111
Target 118.5 / 121 |
Squaring near "below" cost ( 2 were triggered)
Cmp 114.75 |
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amitagg Black Belt
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Post: #754 Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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amitagg wrote: | Gold is a buy at 30250/70 target 30550 stop 29950
Cmp 30250-280 |
target hit well |
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kingkrunal White Belt
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Post: #755 Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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hi amit..
are you still using rohan's method ? and how is it going on ?
any more filters ??
thanks |
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amitagg Black Belt
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Post: #756 Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Good to see you back
I am now not focussing on any particular instrument
While my levels are subtle and without fanfare you would notice at last three weeks overall have been profitable ( had stopped posting few backs back)
( there is slippage in actual trades)
Had stopped posting or giving running crude commentary
This week gold and aluminium were traded
Aluminium has reached above cost ( was exited near cost)
Gold gave the weekly profit
Nickel was traded ( see my post where I was unsure of this )
Yesterday low did not hit SL 688 so that SL was precise
Now near to cost and I am holding till tomorrow end
To your question combine SSPS and Rohan -30tf and lower time frame say 5tf to determine the trend - I use this ONLY for filtration now ( that is unless they are aligned I would not take trade as per my system)
Trade entry is as per my system / exit is still discretionary and looking to improve ( since sideways and trending markets cannot be distinguished that well my most traders and all endeavour to just limit losses in sideways markets )
I DO NOT take contra trades now to my system; capacity building is still difficult for me at the moment.....
Choose one and don't muddy waters with many ( except for filtration)
Please start your thread and post some TA and trades. It helps all like me
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amitagg Black Belt
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Post: #757 Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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To respond more accurately to your post so that it helps you ( besides the response below)
Consider both ST and 64 ema - when not aligned in direction of price . Book out.
Take additional entries on 8 34 SSPS while In direction of 64 ema
Just see chart - IT EXPLAINS ITSELF - see how and where u would have entered and exited and mark all entries
( difficultly is in adhering in live market and sideways markets)
( my system is otherwise giving reasonable entries while the trends exist)
Also GANN -9 levels work well for crude at a least.... With 2 filters SSPS and Rohan and Gann .... You would seriously limit bad entries
See how to trade the Gann levels at corners..... It is very good.
Once the entries are fewer profits will be "surer and lower"... It's up to each of us to see how to scale up.....thoughts are welcome.
(I am purposefully leaving talking of one TA which I use to not make the discussion in public forum flimsy) |
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kingkrunal White Belt
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Post: #758 Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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amitagg wrote: | Good to see you back
I am now not focussing on any particular instrument
While my levels are subtle and without fanfare you would notice at last three weeks overall have been profitable ( had stopped posting few backs back)
( there is slippage in actual trades)
Had stopped posting or giving running crude commentary
This week gold and aluminium were traded
Aluminium has reached above cost ( was exited near cost)
Gold gave the weekly profit
Nickel was traded ( see my post where I was unsure of this )
Yesterday low did not hit SL 688 so that SL was precise
Now near to cost and I am holding till tomorrow end
To your question combine SSPS and Rohan -30tf and lower time frame say 5tf to determine the trend - I use this ONLY for filtration now ( that is unless they are aligned I would not take trade as per my system)
Trade entry is as per my system / exit is still discretionary and looking to improve ( since sideways and trending markets cannot be distinguished that well my most traders and all endeavour to just limit losses in sideways markets )
I DO NOT take contra trades now to my system; capacity building is still difficult for me at the moment.....
Choose one and don't muddy waters with many ( except for filtration)
Please start your thread and post some TA and trades. It helps all like me
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yup was out of india since last year and not in market so not able to track or trade.. (too much of time difference)
you have been trading a lot of different stuffs...
i am just pulling up together lot of past things and need backtest and stuff to check the whips and other things..
Is there any link to your method or any pointers pls ? |
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amitagg Black Belt
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Post: #759 Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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One more point... Since u are getting me into discussion of specifics....
PLEASE note that most commodities including crude and metals and Nifty etc in CORRE TIVE rises and declines on larger timeframe
There are overlapping waves on medium term timeframes are well and triangles and diametrics being formed
Hence a MA based system would not always be appropriate.....hence volatility breaks even on weekly timeframes would be good to trade ( i wonder whether You are understanding what I am saying)
We learn lot of TA but don't apply particular TA at particular times |
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amitagg Black Belt
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Post: #760 Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Look at copper NOW 330 and can touch 335 stop 323 ( aggressive 1:1 at 325)
Had it been Monday or Tuesday I would have recommended as a TRADE for conviction
Still I am Long on much LESS quantity than actual trades which I post for others in thread
Nickel is AT COST now 700-701
And if next week is positive above 697 in beginning go ahead AND BUY it.... Will post later
Don't but now if not already long |
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kingkrunal White Belt
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Post: #761 Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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amitagg wrote: | One more point... Since u are getting me into discussion of specifics....
PLEASE note that most commodities including crude and metals and Nifty etc in CORRE TIVE rises and declines on larger timeframe
There are overlapping waves on medium term timeframes are well and triangles and diametrics being formed
Hence a MA based system would not always be appropriate.....hence volatility breaks even on weekly timeframes would be good to trade ( i wonder whether You are understanding what I am saying)
We learn lot of TA but don't apply particular TA at particular times |
Yes that is correct ... i had traded the volatility breakout breakdown in past on weekly timeframes ..
i have done lot of research and backtest for 3x5 DEMA of shiva sir .. it is pure crossover with few rules... good if followed year around..
but the whips are the one which is part and parcel of trade..
since then i have done lot of research on complex system and stuffs.. but not able to get through a simple one .. so it seems ST with few trend indicators should do the trick ??
any good trend indicator u can suggest ? |
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amitagg Black Belt
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Post: #762 Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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amitagg wrote: | Look at copper NOW 330 and can touch 335 stop 323 ( aggressive 1:1 at 325)
Had it been Monday or Tuesday I would have recommended as a TRADE for conviction
Still I am Long on much LESS quantity than actual trades which I post for others in thread
Nickel is AT COST now 700-701
And if next week is positive above 697 in beginning go ahead AND BUY it.... Will post later
Don't but now if not already long |
Have exited 332.5 for some profit , would replan next week
Nickel holding ( but looking dicey)
Commodities metals still not breaking out of congestion |
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amitagg Black Belt
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Post: #763 Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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that's more like it
exited nickel just above cost and
rebought copper at 333.6 ( normal quantity now) stop 328
look strong. confirmation above 335/336. |
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amitagg Black Belt
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Post: #764 Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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]Hi Amit
What's your view on Crude I am stuck up I am long in 2 lots at 3064 level..
Thanks[/quote]
Just noticed ..... You have no option except to have STRICT Stop loss of 2905
If u can bear the loss
Otherwise can exit at 2930 levels cmp 2940..... Went to 3000.
I don't anticipate END of extent of free falls in crude . Becuase for me not today but always it and any other tradable instrument can have a free run.
Such events like nov 30 can take very one for ride. Inventory was historically bad and
" pls don't trade against the trend with out stop loss next time" - not mental but system stop loss
Above is a private message I received . I can reply in thread itself without naming the sender. |
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amitagg Black Belt
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Post: #765 Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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amitagg wrote: | ]Hi Amit
What's your view on Crude I am stuck up I am long in 2 lots at 3064 level..
Thanks |
Just noticed ..... You have no option except to have STRICT Stop loss of 2905
If u can bear the loss
Otherwise can exit at 2930 levels cmp 2940..... Went to 3000.
I don't anticipate END of extent of free falls in crude . Becuase for me not today but always it and any other tradable instrument can have a free run.
Such events like nov 30 can take very one for ride. Inventory was historically bad and
" pls don't trade against the trend with out stop loss next time" - not mental but system stop loss
Above is a private message I received . I can reply in thread itself without naming the sender.[/quote]
So first step put stop of 2930 . Cmp 2950. Let it hit 2930 or wait for price to touch 2955 and then 2975 and wait. I may not be able to post live and so you are on your own. If above 2965 trail to 2942. Minor steps. If above 2975 trail to 2948. Exit at 3018 approx in any case without waiting for 3064. Mentally except that it would end in loss and a big loss IF it is ( in number of points) What comes next as upside is only bonus points for next trade. |
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