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Delta neutral Theta biased trading
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Post: #106   PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exited 17700 PE sold at 73 now at 138.
Sold 17500 PE (Jan) instead at 282

Open positions currently
Short 1 lot BNF now at 17943 (Jan)
Sold 1 lot 17500 PE at 212 (Jan series)
Sold 1 lot 17000 PE at 101 (Jan series)
Sold 1 lots of 17500 PE at 282 (Jan)

Positions booked
Sold 1 lot BNF 17700 PE at 73, exited at 138 (Dec series) (65 points loss)

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Post: #107   PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BNF is tunring mildly bullish now so booking 1 lot 17500 PE now at 159 and selling one lot 18000 PE now instead.

Open positions currently
Short 1 lot BNF now at 17943 (Jan)
Sold 1 lot 17500 PE at 212 (Jan series)
Sold 1 lot 17000 PE at 101 (Jan series)
Sold 1 lot 18000 PE at 319 (Jan)


Positions booked
Sold 1 lot BNF 17700 PE at 73, exited at 138 (Dec series) (65 points loss)
Sold 1 lots of 17500 PE at 282 (Jan), exited at 159 (profit 123 points)


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Post: #108   PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The current month strategy has now smartly moved into profits (as below). BNF continues to be bullish on my charts and I will make further adjustment to the strategy as currently the delta is still mildly bearish and I want it to be mildly bullish.

Open positions currently
Short 1 lot BNF now at 17943, LTP 18144 (M2M loss 201 points)
Sold 1 lot 17500 PE at 212, LTP 106 (M2M profit 106 points)
Sold 1 lot 17000 PE at 101, LTP 45 (M2M profit 56 points)
Sold 1 lot 18000 PE at 319, LTP 241 (M2M profit 78 points)

Total M2M profit = 39 points


Positions booked
Sold 1 lot BNF 17700 PE at 73, exited at 138 (Dec series) (65 points loss)
Sold 1 lots of 17500 PE at 282 (Jan), exited at 159 (profit 123 points)

Total Booked profit = 58 points

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Post: #109   PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Booking 17500 PE at 75 now and selling 18300 PE at 282 instead.

Open positions currently
Short 1 lot BNF now at 17943
Sold 1 lot 18000 PE at 319
Sold 18200 PE at 288
Sold 18300 PE at 282

Positions booked
Sold 1 lot BNF 17700 PE at 73, exited at 138 (Dec series) (65 points loss)
Sold 1 lots of 17500 PE at 282 (Jan), exited at 159 (profit 123 points)
Sold 1 lot 17000 PE at 101, booked at 36 (profit 65 points)
Sold 1 lot 17500 PE at 212, booked now at 75 (profit 137 points)

Total Booked profit = 260 points

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Post: #110   PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BNF stayed sideways (and charts remain bullish). All sold puts are OTM now so need to balance the delta again. Therefore booking 18000 PE at 147 and selling 1 lot of 18400 PE at 300 instead.

Open positions currently
Short 1 lot BNF now at 17943
Sold 18200 PE at 288
Sold 18300 PE at 282
Sold 18400 PE at 300

Positions booked
Sold 1 lot BNF 17700 PE at 73, exited at 138 (Dec series) (65 points loss)
Sold 1 lots of 17500 PE at 282 (Jan), exited at 159 (profit 123 points)
Sold 1 lot 17000 PE at 101, booked at 36 (profit 65 points)
Sold 1 lot 17500 PE at 212, booked now at 75 (profit 137 points)
Sold 1 lot 18000 PE at 319, booked at 147 (profit 172 points profit)

Total Booked profit = 432 points

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Post: #111   PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

M2M profit of this current trade running is 262 points now, this is even after my original trade was bearish and BNF has been bullish since. Simply through trade management the loss has got converted to profit now.

I am holding it for more as now in the second half of the month options Theta increases i.e the premium erosion will be much faster with every passing day.

Open positions currently
Short 1 lot BNF now at 17943, LTP 18450 (M2M loss 507 points)
Sold 18200 PE at 288. LTP 141 (M2M profit 147 points)
Sold 18300 PE at 282, LTP 175 (M2M profit 107 points)
Sold 18400 PE at 300, LTP 217 (M2M profit 83 points)

Positions booked
Sold 1 lot BNF 17700 PE at 73, exited at 138 (Dec series) (65 points loss)
Sold 1 lots of 17500 PE at 282 (Jan), exited at 159 (profit 123 points)
Sold 1 lot 17000 PE at 101, booked at 36 (profit 65 points)
Sold 1 lot 17500 PE at 212, booked now at 75 (profit 137 points)
Sold 1 lot 18000 PE at 319, booked at 147 (profit 172 points profit)

Total Booked profit = 432 points

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Post: #112   PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BNF continues to be bullish so I am exiting 18200PE and 18300 PE both and selling 2 lots of 18700 PE instead.

Open positions currently
Short 1 lot BNF at 17943
Sold 18400 PE at 300,
Sold 2 lots of 18700 PE at 223

Positions booked
Sold 1 lot BNF 17700 PE at 73, exited at 138 (Dec series) (65 points loss)
Sold 1 lots of 17500 PE at 282 (Jan), exited at 159 (profit 123 points)
Sold 1 lot 17000 PE at 101, booked at 36 (profit 65 points)
Sold 1 lot 17500 PE at 212, booked now at 75 (profit 137 points)
Sold 1 lot 18000 PE at 319, booked at 147 (profit 172 points profit)
Sold 18200 PE at 288. booked at 73 (profit 215 points)
Sold 18300 PE at 282, booked at 115 (profit 167 points)

Total Booked profit = 850 points

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Post: #113   PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BNF remains bullish but may get exhausted soon...so I am booking all BNF puts again and selling 2 lots of 18900 PE instead at 232

Open positions currently
Short 1 lot BNF at 17943
Short 2 lots 18900 PE at 232

Positions booked
Sold 1 lot BNF 17700 PE at 73, exited at 138 (Dec series) (65 points loss)
Sold 1 lots of 17500 PE at 282 (Jan), exited at 159 (profit 123 points)
Sold 1 lot 17000 PE at 101, booked at 36 (profit 65 points)
Sold 1 lot 17500 PE at 212, booked now at 75 (profit 137 points)
Sold 1 lot 18000 PE at 319, booked at 147 (profit 172 points profit)
Sold 18200 PE at 288. booked at 73 (profit 215 points)
Sold 18300 PE at 282, booked at 115 (profit 167 points)
Sold 18400 PE at 300, booked now at 76 (profit 224 points)
Sold 2 lots of 18700 PE at 223, booked now at 148 ( 75 x 2 = 150 points)

Total Booked profit = 1224 points

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Post: #114   PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:14 pm    Post subject: I love your trading style.and attitude and your helping mind Reply with quote

Nice Going Alchemist sir...Your Trade management is Really superb!!....Congratulations...U r real Master of Hedge trades...Keep it up sir.. Cool Smile Iam expecting Spot nifty view on comming days: spot Nifty broken w pattern...pattern tgt 8600(and also today support Pcr values)...support 8250 to 8300...Now Rsi is overbought condition...still no bearish reversal...current res 8440...expecting small down then rise(but still no bearish reversal)...today also shown bullish strenth... Cool Laughing
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Post: #115   PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A quick summary of results of all trades taken in this thread since Sep 16


Sep trade : BNF profit booked 596 points

Oct trade : BNF profit booked 465 points

Nov trade : BNF 50 points profit (800 points if I include puts bought)

Dec 2 trades : BNF 90 points profit (just held for one day) & Nifty 365 points profit

Currently Jan trade in BNF is running with around 300+ points profit.. still holding for more.

Every month has been a profitable month till now, thats the magic of delta neutral strategy.

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Post: #116   PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Alchemist
Thanks a lot to you for evolving me as a profitable trader. before this i was struggling to manage the option selling. Still there is lot to learn.

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Post: #117   PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes sir...Really solid and very safe strategy...and also u r real expert of this strategy...but how to taken positions...when to made adjustments? when to book profit...entry, exit ,adjustments how to make this dnt know sir...if u dnt mind ple explain Brefily on this strategy...Thanks sir... Smile Cool Cool
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Post: #118   PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

paa wrote:
Dear Alchemist
Thanks a lot to you for evolving me as a profitable trader. before this i was struggling to manage the option selling. Still there is lot to learn.

thanks


I feel really happy when I hear fellow traders are making profits and learning as well. The time is spend in updating my thread becomes worthwhile...

I started this thread as an experiment and I have proved the experiment right so there is no need for me to keep updating this thread going forward unless there are people who need these updates.

I encourage others to post their experience too here if they are following this thread as after the current trade I will close this thread.

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Post: #119   PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Alchemist
Please continue updating the post as it is for some more time.
We have to learn a lot from you. This is a new beginning for me. Please hold my hands until i stand on my feet firmly. This is a humble request!
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Post: #120   PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:17 am    Post subject: I love your trading style.and attitude and your helping mind Reply with quote

paa wrote:
Dear Alchemist
Please continue updating the post as it is for some more time.
We have to learn a lot from you. This is a new beginning for me. Please hold my hands until i stand on my feet firmly. This is a humble request!
helpsmilie
...Dear Alchemist sir ple u update on your calls on this thread...ple help small traders life... I have no knowledge of this strategy...ple keep on updates or if u r giving any paid services then i will interst to join and trade with u....ple tell me sir...VERY very Bad luck!! again again i miss good analyists...still not to earn in this mkt... Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Sad Sad Wink
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