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Freak Trade in Minifty Triggering Stop Loss
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iakash
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Post: #1   PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:40 pm    Post subject: Freak Trade in Minifty Triggering Stop Loss Reply with quote

A very freak incident happened today and i want to know if other traders in this forum faced the same thing:

I would like readers to go thru this carefully and give their views...

Today i bought 1 lot of Minifty April Futures at 9:30 am.

After price crossed 5300 i placed stop loss limit order.

Even though my trigger price was never reached, my order got executed at 12:42pm.

When i contacted Zerodha (my broker) guys, they showed me a freak trade that happened at 12:42pm at the price of 3512 Shocked

They said that this trade triggered your stop loss.

Now, i am completely bemused that how come such a trade can happen at such a low price. Shouldn't NSE prevent such incidents, because such freak trades will take out everybody's stop losses and most traders will end up red faced.

If such a freak trade has happened, then there are bound to be other traders who also faced the same situation. I would like them to come forward and express themselves.

If such things are going to happen, then nobody's stop loss will ever be safe.

Another thing of concern is that when i checked Minifty values on NSE website, it shows today's low as 5238. If a freak trade happened at 3512, then that should have been shown as the day's low. So, i am in doubt whether this is error on NSE's side or Zerodha's side.

I have already raised this issue with Zerodha but i am posting here so that if there are others who faced this problem, we can voice it together.

- Akash.
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Post: #2   PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in IIFL also Mini Nifty low 3512
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Post: #3   PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ iakash

the freak trade did happen and the volume traded is almost 28 lakhs because so many stop losses got triggered at one go .
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Post: #4   PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kishjk7551 wrote:
@ iakash

the freak trade did happen and the volume traded is almost 28 lakhs because so many stop losses got triggered at one go .


Tht is wt i expected...tht many stop losses will get triggered... but can't NSE avoid such freak trades?... i think there is a lower circuit for index futures as well.... the lower circuit shd hv avoided this trade...

Is thr any way i can raise this issue with NSE?
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Post: #5   PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:45 pm    Post subject: Freak Trade in Minifty Triggering Stop Loss Reply with quote

Hi,

This is a serious issue and you have to take up the matter with SEBI. As all the orders are routed thru' different broking houses' servers, before finally executed on NSE Server, there is possibility of some Mischief and this needs to be thoroughly probed to clear the doubts of traders.

Vidyasagar
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Post: #6   PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry everybody its 28 thousand and not 28 lakhs sorry for the typo.
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Post: #7   PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Akash,

You raise the issue with Nse and SEBI and ask them to reply under RTI act.
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Post: #8   PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the trade was cancelled later, from what I understand. you should take up with your broker and sebi
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Post: #9   PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Akash,

AS per NSE website Low 5238,but as per NSE chart 3512..So there is no chance for fault at Zerodha.
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Post: #10   PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's not the point chandru. what if broker's record shows cancellation but he doesn't pass on to client?
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Post: #11   PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vinay28 wrote:
that's not the point chandru. what if broker's record shows cancellation but he doesn't pass on to client?


Hi Vinay,

I have received end-of-day sms from NSEL as well as my broker confirming trade execution.

In case NSE decides to cancel the transactions, how to i make sure tht the broker passes it on to me?
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Post: #12   PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

first of all, you need to confirm from nse or sebi that the trade was indeed cancelled. I have posted what I heard in the afternoon before market close. If it is true, you need to get some valid info from them and show it to your broker. I have asked a friend to get me proof/more info but I am not sure whether it will come.

in worst case, chandru's advice on invoking rti is good but time consuming
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Post: #13   PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

however, the situation is not as bad as my reply may sound. If the trade was indeed reversed, it will get repeated in your broker's record and hence your record. Just find out from nse/broker tmrw
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Post: #14   PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vinay28 wrote:
however, the situation is not as bad as my reply may sound. If the trade was indeed reversed, it will get repeated in your broker's record and hence your record. Just find out from nse/broker tmrw


Vinay,

Just now received contract note from broker confirming trade execution....
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Post: #15   PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

may be but reversal, if any, will appear tmrw. you definitely need to pursue it
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