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F&O combine trade ~ Welgro
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Rahulsharmaat
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Post: #46   PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
because after loosing Rs 18000 in Relcap-- how many will have courage to take another call---

trader may be a big shot--then only he can trade
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welgro
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Post: #47   PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rahulsharmaat wrote:
because after loosing Rs 18000 in Relcap-- how many will have courage to take another call---

trader may be a big shot--then only he can trade


kindly read my first post.I am not say this type of trade is safe.

Important note : I am trading this method trading last 2 years.this trading strategy give good returns when market is in trending.At the same time it give huge loss (but loss is fixed) when market is in range bound. so small traders andsafe traders don't try this method trade.
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Post: #48   PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
welgro wrote:
Trade No : 10

short tatasteel future 1 lot + Buy tatasteel 550 call option 1 lot + Buy tatasteel 550 put option 1 lot.



Tatasteel 550 put option exited 35.75

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Post: #49   PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Trade no 12



Bought rcom future + options
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Post: #50   PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
welgro wrote:
welgro wrote:
Trade No : 10

short tatasteel future 1 lot + Buy tatasteel 550 call option 1 lot + Buy tatasteel 550 put option 1 lot.



Tatasteel 550 put option exited 35.75



Tata steel position closed all open positions.P/L excel i will update after market hour.

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Post: #51   PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
amitagg wrote:
Rahulsharmaat wrote:
please post net result of all these trades given--


Yes pls do ....scrip wise....helps to understand the dynamics and volatility impact on the strategy with dates of entry and exit......any ardent followers can take a step up and post if time permits......otherwise.

Why I welcomed you back welfare for this very call put strategies.




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Post: #52   PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Welgro pls explain few points

Since average trade duration is only 2-5 days what's advantage of call out buys which cancel other other ?

Strike rate is 50-60 percent . So your exits have good rr in profitable trades fir the net surplus.
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Post: #53   PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
amitagg wrote:
Welgro pls explain few points

Since average trade duration is only 2-5 days what's advantage of call put buys which cancel other other ?

Strike rate is 50-60 percent . So your exits have good rr in profitable trades fir the net surplus.


I has create some 'trading rules' in my trading experience.

when i am hold positions with hedge i have a good time to take decisions(hold or exit)if the underlying moves opposite direction.

At the same time i can predict the stock which one give positional good returns(3 to 10 days).But i don't do future trades with out hedge.who knows tomorrows impact.

i am only 34 years old.If any detriment in my investment i will spoil my whole life.because i don't have any big financial background.
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Post: #54   PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
welgro wrote:
welgro wrote:
Trade Number : 6

Buy tcs future 1 lot + Buy tcs 2100 call option 1 lot + Buy tcs 2100 put option 1 lot.



tcs 2100 call option exited at 98.00.
Now i am holding tcs future long and tcs2100 put option.



TCS future placed stoploss at 2252.00.

once if execute then i will close my put position too...
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Post: #55   PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
welgro wrote:
amitagg wrote:
Welgro pls explain few points

Since average trade duration is only 2-5 days what's advantage of call put buys which cancel other other ?

Strike rate is 50-60 percent . So your exits have good rr in profitable trades fir the net surplus.


I has create some 'trading rules' in my trading experience.

when i am hold positions with hedge i have a good time to take decisions(hold or exit)if the underlying moves opposite direction.

At the same time i can predict the stock which one give positional good returns(3 to 10 days).But i don't do future trades with out hedge.who knows tomorrows impact.

i am only 34 years old.If any detriment in my investment i will spoil my whole life.because i don't have any big financial background.


got the point....i shall start making it part of my trading diary

......and remember...when ur cal put one leg doubles and u square off.......futures is completely hedged and even if retraces.....the other call put leg shall make money

......we are in trending markets and we need to adapt and use your method to our advantage.....
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Post: #56   PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
welgro wrote:
Trade no 12



Bought rcom future + options


RCom placed stoploss at 145.00 once triggered then i will close my all positions in rcom
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Post: #57   PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
welgro wrote:
welgro wrote:
Trade no 12



Bought rcom future + options


RCom placed stoploss at 145.00 once triggered then i will close my all positions in rcom


rcom position exited at cmp...Now i don't have any open position.

ALL positions cleared.



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Post: #58   PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Trade No : 13

short hindunilvr and bought both put and call options 620 strike

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Post: #59   PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Trade No : 14

Bought icicibank future + call and put options in 1440 strike (June) contract.

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Post: #60   PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
welgro wrote:
Trade No : 13

short hindunilvr and bought both put and call options 620 strike



I am exit in hindunilvr ..Profit/loss update after mkt hour.

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