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Rahulsharmaat Black Belt
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Post: #121 Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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and net result is time failure--- but its my perception
i may be wrong after ending up 30 lac-- just paid as option premium |
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rk_a2003 Black Belt
Joined: 21 Jan 2010 Posts: 2734
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Post: #122 Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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apka wrote: | options are about timing |
And also for selling. Any one who can device a sound strategy based on option selling can reap profits. |
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rakpeds White Belt
Joined: 24 Jun 2012 Posts: 481
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Post: #123 Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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Rahulsharmaat wrote: | options are garbage for me-- i dont trade n discuss them |
Yes all is true... But as rahul sir said... no discussion on options...
Rahul sir... mai toh picha nai chodunga...
Aap 2 saal se yeh method trade kar rahe hai... So 15 AUG .... disclosing or 20 AUG as u have decided?
Whats it going to be |
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Rahulsharmaat Black Belt
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Post: #124 Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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yes RK
writing is good
that i do some time to eat premium
week before expiry-- next month options |
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rakpeds White Belt
Joined: 24 Jun 2012 Posts: 481
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Post: #125 Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:48 am Post subject: |
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rakpeds wrote: | Rahulsharmaat wrote: | options are garbage for me-- i dont trade n discuss them |
Yes all is true... But as rahul sir said... no discussion on options...
Rahul sir... mai toh picha nai chodunga...
Aap 2 saal se yeh method trade kar rahe hai... So 15 AUG .... disclosing or 20 AUG as u have decided?
Whats it going to be |
happy independence day to all.....
rahul sir any chance it will b revealed today |
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Rahulsharmaat Black Belt
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Post: #126 Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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date is already given |
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rakpeds White Belt
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Post: #127 Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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Rahulsharmaat wrote: | date is already given |
Yes rahul sir.... awaiting for 20 Aug... Happy independence day....... |
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Rahulsharmaat Black Belt
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Post: #128 Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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set up for Relinfra;
1} 15 TF ; I cant disclose indicator and discuss 15 min tf here as per rule of icharts
2} 30 TF : Use 34 EMA close, watch 34 ema value-- make it round off,, add 6 point filter and buy--stop loss 6 points below 34 EMA value-- which will be 13 points----target 20 points always-- TSl at cost after 13 point gain--- after 18 points TSL at cost plus 15 points and book at 20 points.
always u will have position in hand-- rules of re entry after booking-- i will explain letter on
3} 1 hr Tf-- all rules same as above--- target 50 points
Tsl at cost after 15 point gain--
Tsl at gain 15 after 35 point gain
Tsl at cost plus 25 after 40 point gain
Tsl at 35 after gain above 42
Tsl at 40 after gain above 46 points
book at 50 points
Re entry i will explain after wards
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rakpeds White Belt
Joined: 24 Jun 2012 Posts: 481
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Post: #129 Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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Rahulsharmaat wrote: | set up for Relinfra;
1} 15 TF ; I cant disclose indicator and discuss 15 min tf here as per rule of icharts
2} 30 TF : Use 34 EMA close, watch 34 ema value-- make it round off,, add 6 point filter and buy--stop loss 6 points below 34 EMA value-- which will be 13 points----target 20 points always-- TSl at cost after 13 point gain--- after 18 points TSL at cost plus 15 points and book at 20 points.
always u will have position in hand-- rules of re entry after booking-- i will explain letter on
3} 1 hr Tf-- all rules same as above--- target 50 points
Tsl at cost after 15 point gain--
Tsl at gain 15 after 35 point gain
Tsl at cost plus 25 after 40 point gain
Tsl at 35 after gain above 42
Tsl at 40 after gain above 46 points
book at 50 points
Re entry i will explain after wards
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Ohhh surprise gift.... thnx rahul sir... but which indicators are there 15 min which are not allowed. I mean technical terms are allowed ...
again this is just for rinfra right or nf and bnf both the same setup |
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akxsat White Belt
Joined: 30 Apr 2010 Posts: 123
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Post: #130 Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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Rahulsharmaat wrote: | set up for Relinfra;
1} 15 TF ; I cant disclose indicator and discuss 15 min tf here as per rule of icharts
2} 30 TF : Use 34 EMA close, watch 34 ema value-- make it round off,, add 6 point filter and buy--stop loss 6 points below 34 EMA value-- which will be 13 points----target 20 points always-- TSl at cost after 13 point gain--- after 18 points TSL at cost plus 15 points and book at 20 points.
always u will have position in hand-- rules of re entry after booking-- i will explain letter on
3} 1 hr Tf-- all rules same as above--- target 50 points
Tsl at cost after 15 point gain--
Tsl at gain 15 after 35 point gain
Tsl at cost plus 25 after 40 point gain
Tsl at 35 after gain above 42
Tsl at 40 after gain above 46 points
book at 50 points
Re entry i will explain after wards
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Rahul ji,
30 min tf 34 EMA of previous candle is it? |
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Rahulsharmaat Black Belt
Joined: 04 Nov 2009 Posts: 2766
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Post: #131 Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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It wont make much difference
if EMA value is 507.20-- it may change to 507.90-- in both case u have to round off it to 508--if its buy-- and 507 if its short-- then add 6 point filter--
now for buy it is 508 + 6 = 514-- so place buy at 514.10
for short it is 507 - 6 = 501-- so place short at 500.90
in this case stop loss will be 13 points-- |
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akxsat White Belt
Joined: 30 Apr 2010 Posts: 123
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Post: #132 Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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Rahulsharmaat wrote: | It wont make much difference
if EMA value is 507.20-- it may change to 507.90-- in both case u have to round off it to 508--if its buy-- and 507 if its short-- then add 6 point filter--
now for buy it is 508 + 6 = 514-- so place buy at 514.10
for short it is 507 - 6 = 501-- so place short at 500.90
in this case stop loss will be 13 points-- |
ok. i got it now. Thank u.
one req: can u post one example of chart, if possible... |
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Rahulsharmaat Black Belt
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Post: #133 Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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in case of 1 Hr TF following are the result of trading.
Dec = gain Rs 33000---- risk was Rs 1600
Jan = gain Rs 80000 -- all targets no stop loss
Feb = gain Rs 52000 ---straight stop loss of Rs 12000
March = gain Rs 75000---- Straight Stop loss Of Rs 10000
April = gain Rs 42000---- straight stop loss of Rs 5200
May = gain Rs 42000 --- straight loss of Rs 7300
June = gain Rs 49000 --- straight loss of Rs 6200
July = Gain Rs 22000 --- Straight loss Rs 12000
August = Long position in hand-- loss booked Rs 5800
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All gains are after brokerage calculation
Lowest gain was rs 22000--- and straight stop loss was Rs 12000
What does this straight stop loss means is -- 2 stop loss in a row hit. so to trade in this u need this much risk management
You need FO margin plus 20000 additional in account to trade it in this setup
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In last 8 months total gain is Rs 395000---
Average gain per month is Rs 50000
Hope it is good
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rakpeds White Belt
Joined: 24 Jun 2012 Posts: 481
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Post: #134 Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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Rahulsharmaat wrote: | It wont make much difference
if EMA value is 507.20-- it may change to 507.90-- in both case u have to round off it to 508--if its buy-- and 507 if its short-- then add 6 point filter--
now for buy it is 508 + 6 = 514-- so place buy at 514.10
for short it is 507 - 6 = 501-- so place short at 500.90
in this case stop loss will be 13 points-- |
rahul sir when to buy ... I mean a 30 min candle close above 34 ema then buy wit filter or just trade the emas |
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sonila Brown Belt
Joined: 04 Jun 2009 Posts: 1786
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Post: #135 Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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Rahulsharmaat wrote: | in case of 1 Hr TF following are the result of trading.
Dec = gain Rs 33000---- risk was Rs 1600
Jan = gain Rs 80000 -- all targets no stop loss
Feb = gain Rs 52000 ---straight stop loss of Rs 12000
March = gain Rs 75000---- Straight Stop loss Of Rs 10000
April = gain Rs 42000---- straight stop loss of Rs 5200
May = gain Rs 42000 --- straight loss of Rs 7300
June = gain Rs 49000 --- straight loss of Rs 6200
July = Gain Rs 22000 --- Straight loss Rs 12000
August = Long position in hand-- loss booked Rs 5800
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All gains are after brokerage calculation
Lowest gain was rs 22000--- and straight stop loss was Rs 12000
What does this straight stop loss means is -- 2 stop loss in a row hit. so to trade in this u need this much risk management
You need FO margin plus 20000 additional in account to trade it in this setup
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In last 8 months total gain is Rs 395000---
Average gain per month is Rs 50000
Hope it is good
| . Can u discuss ur nf trading method ? |
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