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vishyvaranasi
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Post: #136  Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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Hi rahul,
Method seems profitable yet simple. Ya the same dbt is wat i hav. Shld we b waiting for a candle close abv/blow the 34 ema or just the same candle if breaches 34ema and the filter we can enter( shall we hav to trade the ema only).
Vishy
| rakpeds wrote: | | Rahulsharmaat wrote: | It wont make much difference
if EMA value is 507.20-- it may change to 507.90-- in both case u have to round off it to 508--if its buy-- and 507 if its short-- then add 6 point filter--
now for buy it is 508 + 6 = 514-- so place buy at 514.10
for short it is 507 - 6 = 501-- so place short at 500.90
in this case stop loss will be 13 points-- |
rahul sir when to buy ... I mean a 30 min candle close above 34 ema then buy wit filter or just trade the emas |
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sonila
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| Post: #137 Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Rakpeds, what is the lot size and margin for relinfra ? |
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rakpeds
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| Post: #138 Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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| sonila wrote: | | Rakpeds, what is the lot size and margin for relinfra ? |
lot size 500 margin need to chk ..... will be around 50 k .... |
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Rahulsharmaat
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| Post: #139 Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Hi rahul,
Method seems profitable yet simple. Ya the same dbt is wat i hav. Shld we b waiting for a candle close abv/blow the 34 ema or just the same candle if breaches 34ema and the filter we can enter( shall we hav to trade the ema only).
Vishy
rakpeds wrote:
Rahulsharmaat wrote:
It wont make much difference
if EMA value is 507.20-- it may change to 507.90-- in both case u have to round off it to 508--if its buy-- and 507 if its short-- then add 6 point filter--
now for buy it is 508 + 6 = 514-- so place buy at 514.10
for short it is 507 - 6 = 501-- so place short at 500.90
in this case stop loss will be 13 points--
rahul sir when to buy ... I mean a 30 min candle close above 34 ema then buy wit filter or just trade the emas |
Why so much confusion..
see the 34 EMA value--- suppose its 507.70--- round it and make 508-- add filter 6 points -- now place buy order at 514.10---
make 34 EMA value-- if its 507.70--- make it 507--- less 6 point filter its 501 now-- place short sell at 500.90---
what ever triggers-- other value is stop loss--- change stop loss as per change of EMA value-- but in any case stop loss wont be bigger the 13 points |
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jyothil
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| Post: #140 Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Rahulsharmaat wrote: | in case of 1 Hr TF following are the result of trading.
Dec = gain Rs 33000---- risk was Rs 1600
Jan = gain Rs 80000 -- all targets no stop loss
Feb = gain Rs 52000 ---straight stop loss of Rs 12000
March = gain Rs 75000---- Straight Stop loss Of Rs 10000
April = gain Rs 42000---- straight stop loss of Rs 5200
May = gain Rs 42000 --- straight loss of Rs 7300
June = gain Rs 49000 --- straight loss of Rs 6200
July = Gain Rs 22000 --- Straight loss Rs 12000
August = Long position in hand-- loss booked Rs 5800
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All gains are after brokerage calculation
Lowest gain was rs 22000--- and straight stop loss was Rs 12000
What does this straight stop loss means is -- 2 stop loss in a row hit. so to trade in this u need this much risk management
You need FO margin plus 20000 additional in account to trade it in this setup
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In last 8 months total gain is Rs 395000---
Average gain per month is Rs 50000
Hope it is good
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Thanks Sir. What is the filter, Target and sl for NIFTY Fut
G.Jyothi |
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rakpeds
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| Post: #141 Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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yes rahul exactly the same point,.,..
we just trade the EMA value and not any closing below or above the candle...
lets say current value of 34 EMA is on 13 aug 2.30 candle close was 505.56 so we put 2 orders one buy at 506 + 6 and sell at 505 - 6 ...
So the next candle took our buy order.,.. and then u book at 20 points...
AM i correct in understanding sir ?  |
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Rahulsharmaat
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| Post: #142 Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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I have not discussed and disclosed anything on Nifty and bank nifty
what is disclosed here is Reliance Infra--
please done get confused |
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Rahulsharmaat
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| Post: #143 Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | yes rahul exactly the same point,.,..
we just trade the EMA value and not any closing below or above the candle...
lets say current value of 34 EMA is on 13 aug 2.30 candle close was 505.56 so we put 2 orders one buy at 506 + 6 and sell at 505 - 6 ...
So the next candle took our buy order.,.. and then u book at 20 points...
AM i correct in understanding sir ? |
You are right...
But as after buy--when rate goes higher-- ema will also go high--- so u have to change ur stop loss accordingly as well as order for short also |
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rakpeds
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| Post: #144 Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Rahulsharmaat wrote: | | Quote: | yes rahul exactly the same point,.,..
we just trade the EMA value and not any closing below or above the candle...
lets say current value of 34 EMA is on 13 aug 2.30 candle close was 505.56 so we put 2 orders one buy at 506 + 6 and sell at 505 - 6 ...
So the next candle took our buy order.,.. and then u book at 20 points...
AM i correct in understanding sir ? |
You are right...
But as after buy--when rate goes higher-- ema will also go high--- so u have to change ur stop loss accordingly as well as order for short also |
yes got that point... also awaiting your reentry point details....  |
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akxsat
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| Post: #145 Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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Rahul,
Just was back testing yr 34 EMA method.
It will safe us from range bound trading days in many situation.
508 u bought right?
based this 30 min method is it?
pls clarify.
ty |
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Rahulsharmaat
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| Post: #146 Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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I trade 3 lots always
15 min entry was at --508
30 Min entry at 512
1 hr entry at 514
15 min booked
30 min booked
1 hr is in hand as target is 564 |
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akxsat
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| Post: #147 Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Rahulsharmaat wrote: | I trade 3 lots always
15 min entry was at --508
30 Min entry at 512
1 hr entry at 514
15 min booked
30 min booked
1 hr is in hand as target is 564 |
gr8 rahul ji....
any reason filter "6" |
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Rahulsharmaat
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| Post: #148 Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Filter 6 is everything |
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Rahulsharmaat
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| Post: #149 Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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try to trade with filter lower then this-- u will know what happens
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akxsat
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| Post: #150 Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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not like that....
31.7.12 - 12.30 - sell triggered then went up
19.7.12 - 10.00 - buy triggered then came down
so i thought of filter to make it as,
"7" as gann number
or
"8" as fibo. |
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