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umesh1 Brown Belt
Joined: 24 Nov 2008 Posts: 1974
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Post: #481 Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:21 am Post subject: |
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Buy at / above: 4865.06 Targets: 4880.07 - 4897.55 - 4915.05 - 4932.59
Stoploss : 4854
Sell at / below: 4847.64 Targets: 4832.66 - 4815.29 - 4 |
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Rahulsharmaat Black Belt
Joined: 04 Nov 2009 Posts: 2766
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Post: #482 Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:35 am Post subject: |
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Stop loss hit --UMESH
and from where this stop loss came """????? |
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nsk1371 White Belt
Joined: 01 Sep 2009 Posts: 226
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Post: #483 Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:41 am Post subject: |
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umeshji, when everything is going right, hw cud u get sl 4854?.. |
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umesh1 Brown Belt
Joined: 24 Nov 2008 Posts: 1974
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Post: #484 Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:52 am Post subject: |
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nsk1371 wrote: | umeshji, when everything is going right, hw cud u get sl 4854?.. |
Hi all
This is to protect the loss points we need not wait till 20 points,you will realise this in few days of practice,and give more leverage for next entry.if it doesnt suit you can also revert back to the standard formula.
In this case normally if you are hitting 2 stoplosses of 20 points in a day , u r not able to take fresh entry due to the emotions,here it will be half of that loss points,and you will gain control over your emotions and be with the system,Motto is not to allow emotions to control our trades ,be with the system.
Regards
Umesh |
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Rahulsharmaat Black Belt
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Post: #485 Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:00 am Post subject: |
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East or west--original formula is best
even my 8 year son can trade that ---
ha ha |
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pinto1 White Belt
Joined: 11 Oct 2011 Posts: 55
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Post: #486 Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:05 am Post subject: |
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umesh1 wrote: | nsk1371 wrote: | umeshji, when everything is going right, hw cud u get sl 4854?.. |
Hi all
This is to protect the loss points we need not wait till 20 points,you will realise this in few days of practice,and give more leverage for next entry.if it doesnt suit you can also revert back to the standard formula.
In this case normally if you are hitting 2 stoplosses of 20 points in a day , u r not able to take fresh entry due to the emotions,here it will be half of that loss points,and you will gain control over your emotions and be with the system,Motto is not to allow emotions to control our trades ,be with the system.
Regards
Umesh |
Re-entry at 4865 as it got triggerred after SL was hit? |
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umesh1 Brown Belt
Joined: 24 Nov 2008 Posts: 1974
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Post: #487 Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:07 am Post subject: |
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Rahulsharmaat wrote: | East or west--original formula is best
even my 8 year son can trade that ---
ha ha |
no wonder when you lost 15k in two days.....all the best |
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umesh1 Brown Belt
Joined: 24 Nov 2008 Posts: 1974
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Post: #488 Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:18 am Post subject: |
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pinto1 wrote: | umesh1 wrote: | nsk1371 wrote: | umeshji, when everything is going right, hw cud u get sl 4854?.. |
Hi all
This is to protect the loss points we need not wait till 20 points,you will realise this in few days of practice,and give more leverage for next entry.if it doesnt suit you can also revert back to the standard formula.
In this case normally if you are hitting 2 stoplosses of 20 points in a day , u r not able to take fresh entry due to the emotions,here it will be half of that loss points,and you will gain control over your emotions and be with the system,Motto is not to allow emotions to control our trades ,be with the system.
Regards
Umesh |
Re-entry at 4865 as it got triggerred after SL was hit? |
Dear pinto
Entry just at the strike price of buy is not valid.people have tried and burnt their hands here. stratey is explained earlier in the forum pls chk,allow it to stay up may even go up 4-5 points then enter when it tests the entry point
Regards
Umesh |
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Rahulsharmaat Black Belt
Joined: 04 Nov 2009 Posts: 2766
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Post: #489 Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:26 am Post subject: |
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now why i lost 15k-- has some problem in my own trades
i use to trade 4 mini lots-- and these two days i traded 4 big lots
and then i didnt traded change of call--which was my mistake
i traded on expiry day n one day before that too
where all stop loss hit--
levels were--
buy above 4693
short at 4675--
Short hit sl-- 18 points
Long hit Sl--18 points
Short hit sl 18 points
now change of call happ and it gave short at 4693-- buy above 4710--
but i again bought at 4693-- again sl hit--
this time i didnt short below 4675-- nifty went till 4640-
this was i lost 72 points per lot
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Now in change of call--
Loss already 54 points
if short at 4693--
2 targets hit--gain per lot 23 points
so net loss 31 points--
so it was not system problem--it was my testings--
and then made a principle that no trade on expiry day n day before that--where its in very tight range
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if anyone feel my updates are hurting there ego-- or creating any problem-- from hereon i wont post anything
thanks all
Sh |
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smartcancerian Yellow Belt
Joined: 07 Apr 2010 Posts: 542
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Post: #490 Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:34 am Post subject: |
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Rahulji/umeshji, you both have developed excellent technique..let us focus on developing the method instead of getting into ego/emotional problems...all i have understand till day is emotions are a big drawback of a trader's mind(its basic)..& i think u both are seasoned traders so it shud not be your weakness atleast..pl..everybody's contribution is required in this forum..sorry, if i have been out of place.. |
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Rahulsharmaat Black Belt
Joined: 04 Nov 2009 Posts: 2766
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Post: #491 Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:48 am Post subject: |
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I am a small men-- i have no ego-- nothing
what i have updated is my real trade
never in my life i have seen people talk about stop losses n there traded loss
at-least i was honest in that ....
what i said was i dont want to use my mind here n there-- 1 month testing i did--with many changes ---
finalised that -- as i trade 2 lots--
will book at 1st n 2nd target -- wont talk of any 3rd--4th-- and see any reversals--
will follow above and first change of call-- thats it --thats it
how many here trade in 4--6--8 lots-- so no points discussing 3rd--4th target
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now this whole month rule which i will follow is
trade morning both calls--
and the first change given--
in this first change of call-- if i am long already--i wont long more
same in short also
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i am updating it in excel from this monday-- will post it here month end-- |
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smartcancerian Yellow Belt
Joined: 07 Apr 2010 Posts: 542
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Post: #492 Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:55 am Post subject: |
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Thanx rahul ji, everyone has its own trading style...ultimately it is must..we backtest the things..thanx for keeping trade record..it will instill MORE confidence in this technique opened by umeshji |
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Rahulsharmaat Black Belt
Joined: 04 Nov 2009 Posts: 2766
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Post: #493 Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:00 am Post subject: |
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i am following what UMESH has introduced---
just change is the next call-- and wont do any reversal-- or stop loss in between as he gave today --which hit also
all thanks goes to him |
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umesh1 Brown Belt
Joined: 24 Nov 2008 Posts: 1974
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Post: #494 Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:18 am Post subject: |
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Rahulsharmaat wrote: | i am following what UMESH has introduced---
just change is the next call-- and wont do any reversal-- or stop loss in between as he gave today --which hit also
all thanks goes to him |
Hi Rahul
All thanks goes to gann and none else,My aim was just to make awareness to trade with a system and not emotions,all are welcome to improvise on it with their expertise.all the best
Happy Niftying |
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Rahulsharmaat Black Belt
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Post: #495 Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:25 am Post subject: |
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change of gaurd happ now
short at 4865-- long above 4883 |
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