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GANN levels for the day
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umesh1
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Post: #481   PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy at / above: 4865.06 Targets: 4880.07 - 4897.55 - 4915.05 - 4932.59
Stoploss : 4854
Sell at / below: 4847.64 Targets: 4832.66 - 4815.29 - 4
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Rahulsharmaat
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Post: #482   PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stop loss hit --UMESH

and from where this stop loss came """?????
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nsk1371
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Post: #483   PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

umeshji, when everything is going right, hw cud u get sl 4854?..
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umesh1
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Post: #484   PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nsk1371 wrote:
umeshji, when everything is going right, hw cud u get sl 4854?..

Hi all
This is to protect the loss points we need not wait till 20 points,you will realise this in few days of practice,and give more leverage for next entry.if it doesnt suit you can also revert back to the standard formula.
In this case normally if you are hitting 2 stoplosses of 20 points in a day , u r not able to take fresh entry due to the emotions,here it will be half of that loss points,and you will gain control over your emotions and be with the system,Motto is not to allow emotions to control our trades ,be with the system.
Regards
Umesh
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Rahulsharmaat
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Post: #485   PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

East or west--original formula is best

even my 8 year son can trade that ---

ha ha 24 24 2guns
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pinto1
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Post: #486   PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

umesh1 wrote:
nsk1371 wrote:
umeshji, when everything is going right, hw cud u get sl 4854?..

Hi all
This is to protect the loss points we need not wait till 20 points,you will realise this in few days of practice,and give more leverage for next entry.if it doesnt suit you can also revert back to the standard formula.
In this case normally if you are hitting 2 stoplosses of 20 points in a day , u r not able to take fresh entry due to the emotions,here it will be half of that loss points,and you will gain control over your emotions and be with the system,Motto is not to allow emotions to control our trades ,be with the system.
Regards
Umesh


Re-entry at 4865 as it got triggerred after SL was hit?
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umesh1
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Post: #487   PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rahulsharmaat wrote:
East or west--original formula is best

even my 8 year son can trade that ---

ha ha 24 24 2guns

no wonder when you lost 15k in two days.....all the best
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umesh1
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Post: #488   PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinto1 wrote:
umesh1 wrote:
nsk1371 wrote:
umeshji, when everything is going right, hw cud u get sl 4854?..

Hi all
This is to protect the loss points we need not wait till 20 points,you will realise this in few days of practice,and give more leverage for next entry.if it doesnt suit you can also revert back to the standard formula.
In this case normally if you are hitting 2 stoplosses of 20 points in a day , u r not able to take fresh entry due to the emotions,here it will be half of that loss points,and you will gain control over your emotions and be with the system,Motto is not to allow emotions to control our trades ,be with the system.
Regards
Umesh


Re-entry at 4865 as it got triggerred after SL was hit?

Dear pinto
Entry just at the strike price of buy is not valid.people have tried and burnt their hands here. stratey is explained earlier in the forum pls chk,allow it to stay up may even go up 4-5 points then enter when it tests the entry point
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Umesh
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Rahulsharmaat
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Post: #489   PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

now why i lost 15k-- has some problem in my own trades

i use to trade 4 mini lots-- and these two days i traded 4 big lots

and then i didnt traded change of call--which was my mistake
i traded on expiry day n one day before that too

where all stop loss hit--

levels were--

buy above 4693
short at 4675--

Short hit sl-- 18 points
Long hit Sl--18 points
Short hit sl 18 points

now change of call happ and it gave short at 4693-- buy above 4710--

but i again bought at 4693-- again sl hit--
this time i didnt short below 4675-- nifty went till 4640-

this was i lost 72 points per lot

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Now in change of call--
Loss already 54 points

if short at 4693--

2 targets hit--gain per lot 23 points
so net loss 31 points--

so it was not system problem--it was my testings--

and then made a principle that no trade on expiry day n day before that--where its in very tight range

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if anyone feel my updates are hurting there ego-- or creating any problem-- from hereon i wont post anything

thanks all



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smartcancerian
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Post: #490   PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rahulji/umeshji, you both have developed excellent technique..let us focus on developing the method instead of getting into ego/emotional problems...all i have understand till day is emotions are a big drawback of a trader's mind(its basic)..& i think u both are seasoned traders so it shud not be your weakness atleast..pl..everybody's contribution is required in this forum..sorry, if i have been out of place..
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Rahulsharmaat
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Post: #491   PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am a small men-- i have no ego-- nothing

what i have updated is my real trade
never in my life i have seen people talk about stop losses n there traded loss
at-least i was honest in that ....


what i said was i dont want to use my mind here n there-- 1 month testing i did--with many changes ---

finalised that -- as i trade 2 lots--
will book at 1st n 2nd target -- wont talk of any 3rd--4th-- and see any reversals--
will follow above and first change of call-- thats it --thats it

how many here trade in 4--6--8 lots-- so no points discussing 3rd--4th target

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now this whole month rule which i will follow is

trade morning both calls--
and the first change given--

in this first change of call-- if i am long already--i wont long more
same in short also

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i am updating it in excel from this monday-- will post it here month end--
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smartcancerian
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Post: #492   PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanx rahul ji, everyone has its own trading style...ultimately it is must..we backtest the things..thanx for keeping trade record..it will instill MORE confidence in this technique opened by umeshji
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Rahulsharmaat
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Post: #493   PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am following what UMESH has introduced---

just change is the next call-- and wont do any reversal-- or stop loss in between as he gave today --which hit also


all thanks goes to him
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umesh1
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Post: #494   PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rahulsharmaat wrote:
i am following what UMESH has introduced---

just change is the next call-- and wont do any reversal-- or stop loss in between as he gave today --which hit also


all thanks goes to him

Hi Rahul
All thanks goes to gann and none else,My aim was just to make awareness to trade with a system and not emotions,all are welcome to improvise on it with their expertise.all the best
Happy Niftying
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Rahulsharmaat
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Post: #495   PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

change of gaurd happ now

short at 4865-- long above 4883
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