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Post: #16   PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2020 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Market is strong and instead of falling it picked up from the low. Morning there came selling signal, but that was not enough and it hit stoploss. At closing, market came back to the buy trend.

So both the below Bear Put strategy going to expire in loss for 4500Rs. but I wonder why these are in just 1500 Rs loss, until today. Seems premiums are not yet grinded.

Bought 9300 Jun PE @233
Short 9200 Jun PE @195

Bought Jun 4th 9100 PE @42
Short Jun 4th 8900 PE @17

Due to no proper signal i executed the below trades. there is no strategy in the below execution, just because of anxiety and unknown market trend and thought market will swing by 500 points these are executed. and I dont know the option strategy name, for it. I executed these only because there is 7500 Rupees known stop loss.

Bought 4th JUN 8600 PE 75 @ 5
Bought 4th JUN 8700 PE 75 @ 6
Bought 4th JUN 8800 PE 75 @ 9
Sold 4th JUN 8900 PE 75 @ 16


Sold 4th JUN 9700 CE 75 @35
Bought 4th JUN 9800 CE 75 @19
Bought 4th JUN 9900 CE 75 @10
Bought 4th JUN 10000 CE 75@ 6

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Post: #17   PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2020 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like market wants to fill the gap of 4th May 9826. Now it is 9482. So still 350 points there. Before reaching that if any 200 points down due to retracement then i will reenter for long and close Bear Put options. But there is no chance, there is no oscillation. Market is going like a steady jet.

When we miss a chance, we will never get onboarded to rally. If atleast 9340 was shown on Friday 29th May, then i could have executed some Bull call Strategy and close the Bear Put strategy.

Let us see at 12.00 Pm Tomorrow, if we get a selling indicator. Even If sell comes also, i think it will be for 100 points down alone. Some 150 points gap down is needed to change the sentiment otherwise it is a steady ship. I dont know why i want the market to come down when it goes up, how this will be possible? this is the retail trader thinking. When market goes down we want to come up. when it comes up we want it to come down, because we sell for 10 rupees profit, instead of lakhs.

Nifty Index watchout points 9680 (a sell chance or rally of 1000 Points which will take to 10680)
Nifty Index watchout points 9764 (to complete the recent gap down on 4th may. If that is completed then bulls first target closed. )

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Post: #18   PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bulls simply took 1000 points. no effort. just a simple trend.

We are in complete denial of 1000 points. we make penny money 10 rs instead of lakhs.

All the time our mind becomes indicator. Then what is the purpose of Technical indicator? our mind and technical indicator signal should be in sync.

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Post: #19   PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For selling, signal time is adjusted between 1.30 Pm to 2.30 Pm. Such a strong market. Just to re-enter I need a 100 to 200 points retracment.
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Post: #20   PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I exited the below position which was taken @ 9494 points, exit @9794. Approximate after 300 points, 6 days to expire. This position has no strategy. I just took because market was confusing but it gave 5000 Rs Profit. I will take it. But this is nothing to the lost money in stock market.
Sold 4th JUN 9700 CE 75 @35 (173)
Bought 4th JUN 9800 CE 75 @19 (117)
Bought 4th JUN 9900 CE 75 @10 (75)
Bought 4th JUN 10000 CE 75@ 6 (45)

Below Bear Put option positions are in holding and staring at stop loss. All the market indicators are still in Buy. Without a 150 points gap down, it will be impossible for bears to pull it down. The fact is Nifty index is above the 50 days EMA and stuck to a Raising trend. Unless it cuts below and close the 50 days EMA (9343), the market is going to touch 10835 just in 10 days. So if we buy now @ 9776 then stop loss is 500 points. What a strange? If we sell then the stop loss will be 1000 points. This is even more strange.

Adjusted the Bear put option strategy. Now stop loss is very high for these two entries 4500Rs + 2000 Rs = 6500 Rs

Bought 9300 Jun PE @233
Short 9100 Jun PE @ 176 (94+82)

Bought Jun 4th 9200 PE @45
Short Jun 4th 8900 PE @17

Adjusted the unnamed PE option strategy
Short 4th Jun 8700 PE 75 @ 11
Bought 4th JUN 8800 PE 75 @ 9

Since market ran up by 1000 points, took a little chance. Sold Nifty Fut with 9825 Rs stop loss. There is no indicator to sell, but i went for a sell. There is no guarantee that market can show some 50 points negative tomorrow, but I went for it. I need to put stop loss of 1000 points (75000 Rs). But i can setup a flower shop with that money. So instead of it I bought some CE for stop loss. Within this week suppose if market comes at 10800 then it will work for me. For below , I dont know the strategy name. but predominantly its a sell.
Short Nifty fut @9785
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 9800 Ce @ 106
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10000 Ce @ 38
Short Nifty 4th Jun 9500 Pe @ 28

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Post: #21   PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strategies - A paper trading is far better than real life trading, incase the trading fails.

The fact is Nifty index is above the 50 days EMA and stuck to a Raising trend. So there will be grinding the market for +/-200 points for next 4 days. Unless it cuts below and close the 50 days EMA (9343), the market is going to touch 10835 just in 9 days. So if we buy now @ 9987 then stop loss is 650 points. If we sell then the stop loss will be 800 points.

Bear put option strategies call. Stop loss 700Rs + 2000Rs + 13500Rs - 150 Rs= 16050 Rs

Bought 9400 Jun PE @255
Short 9100 Jun PE @ 176 (94+82)
Short 9100 Jun PE @ 70

Bought Jun 4th 9200 PE @45
Short Jun 4th 8900 PE @17

Bought Jun 11th 9300 PE @32
Short Jun 11th 9500 PE @55

Unnamed PE option strategy
Short 4th Jun 8700 PE 75 @ 11
Bought 4th JUN 8800 PE 75 @ 9


Sell strategy call - I am imagining what will happen if one person has below position with two days expiry. This is absolutely like buying Kerala lottery. Win something or lose everything.

Short Nifty fut @9851
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10000 Ce @ 38
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10000 Ce @ 77
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10100 Ce @ 37
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10200 Ce @ 17
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10200 Ce @ 17
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10300 Ce @ 10
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10300 Ce @ 10
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10300 Ce @ 10

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Post: #22   PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strategies - A paper trading is far better than real life trading, due to many reasons like loss, overcome addiction to stock market and enhancing the mastery of Stock market knowledge.

The fact is Nifty index is above the 50 days EMA and locked to a Raising trend for the third day. So here comes the Grinding Master for +/-200 points for next 3 days. No job for Bears or Bulls for some days. Unless it cuts below and close the 50 days EMA (9343), the market is going to touch 10835 just in 8 days. So if we buy now @ 10085 (P.close 9987) then stop loss is 750 points. If we sell then the stop loss will be 750 points.

Every Retracement is a buy in the Bulls market. How come we suddenly feel bearish for just 100 points down after a 1300 points Rally? why this 100 points down gives the bearish signal in mind? If there is no 200 points gap down for continuously 2 days, how anyone can feel bearish? Here is where we all lose money, and will continue to lose money.

Bear put option strategies call. Stop loss for one remaining position is 7500 Rs

Bought 9500 Jun PE @273
Short 9100 Jun PE @ 176 (94+82)
Short 9100 Jun PE @ 70
Short 9600 11th Jun PE @ 39

Exit with Loss of 2000 Rs
Bought Jun 4th 9200 PE @45 - 0 = -45Pts
Short Jun 4th 8900 PE @17 - 0 = +17Pts

Exit with Profit 700 Rs
Bought Jun 11th 9300 PE @32 - 18 =-14 Pts
Short Jun 11th 9500 PE @55 -30 = +25 Pts

Exit Unnamed PE option strategy with profit 100 Rs
Short 4th Jun 8700 PE 75 @ 11 -0 = +11Pts
Bought 4th JUN 8800 PE 75 @ 9 -0 = -9Pts

Exit with profit 300 Rs
Short 4th Jun 9900 PE 75 @ 13 -15 = -2Pts
Bought 4th JUN 10000 PE 75 @ 23 -30 = +7Pts

Exit with profit 1500 Rs
Bought 4th Jun 10200 PE 75 @ 95 -138 = +43Pts
Short 4th JUN 10100 PE 75 @ 46 - 69 = -23Pts


Sell strategy with hedge calls taken @ 9930 are exited @ 10130 (200 points difference, 2 days to expire)

Short Nifty fut @9851 - 10124 = - 273
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10000 Ce @ 38 -153 = 115
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10000 Ce @ 77 -153 = 76
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10100 Ce @ 37 -86 = 50
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10200 Ce @ 17 -34 = 17
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10200 Ce @ 17 -45 =27
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10300 Ce @ 10 -16 =6
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10300 Ce @ 10 -21 = 11
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10300 Ce @ 10 -23 =13

All in all this sell lottery strategy call made some 3000 Rs(with a risk of 15000 Rupees) which is peanut and not even helps for the expenses. But a point, also to remember is that it recovered huge loss of 273 points. Good. so one nifty is equal to 2 ATM and 6 OTM options. hmmm..

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Post: #23   PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strategies - A paper trading is far better than real life trading, due to many reasons like loss, overcome addiction to stock market and enhancing the mastery of Stock market knowledge.

The fact is Nifty Index is above the 50 days EMA and just today unlocked itslef from the trend. So the Grinding Master will do for +/-200 points for next 2 days. No job for Bears or Bulls for some days. The closed channel is formed between 9800 to 10200 for the Nifty Index. unless it breaks no swing movement.

Longterm
Unless it cuts and close below the 50 days EMA (9343), the market is going to touch 10835 just in 7 days. So if we buy now @ 10016 (P.close 10085) then stop loss is 750 points. If we sell then the stop loss will be 850 points.

Shorterm
There is a sell cloud today. No denying. But Unless there is gap down or closing 200 points negative the cloud will disappear. But if it gets stronger the target looks at 9503 and 8583. Nice.

Trend Strategy Calls - Based on indicators
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No Calls

Trend Lock Strategy Calls - This is totally like Lottery, no strategy involved
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No Calls

Trend Reversal Strategy Calls - Based on market observation
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Continue to adjust Bear put option strategies call, because there was no Trend reversal and no support for Bears.

Entry 1 -> Stop loss = 3825 Rs (51 pts) started when Nifty @ 9400
Bought 9600 Jun PE@ 297
Short 9100 Jun PE @ 176 (94+82)
Short 9100 Jun PE @ 70
Bought 9100 11th Jun PE@10

Entry 2 -> Stop loss = 13500 Rs (180 pts) started when Nifty @ 10000
Bought 9400 11th Jun PE@21
Short 9600 11th Jun PE @ 39

Entry 3 -> Stop loss = 3900 Rs (52 pts) started when Nifty @ 10000
Short 9800 11th Jun PE @ 81
Short 9800 Jun PE @ 173
Bought 9700 11th Jun PE@57
Bought 10000 Jun PE@ 249

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Basis for Trend Reversal Strategy
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1. Weakness in the Trend
2. Market Unlocked from the Trend
3. Confirmation by any Trend indicator

Enter Bull spread or Bear Spread Strategy with 3000 Rs stoploss for a 3000 Rs profit. This strategy always minimum loss and minimum profit. Good strategy for weak hearten and heart patients because less loss and less profit.

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Basis for Trend lock strategy
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Risk 5000 Rs Profit 0 Rs If no movement or opposite movement
Risk 10000 Rs Profit 0 Rs If all are against the strategy
Risk 0 Rs Profit 750 Rs If 100 Pts movement
Risk 0 Rs Profit 3000 Rs If 200 Pts movement
Risk 0 Rs Profit 5000 Rs If 300 Pts movement

examples 100 points
calls taken @ 10020 are exited @ 10120 (100 points difference, 7 days to expire)
Sold10300 2.15 @ 10020 Pts is Rs 57 - 76 @ 10123 Pts = -20 Rs
Buy 10400 2.15 @ 10020 Pts is Rs 38 - 48 @ 10123 Pts = +10 Rs
Buy 10400 2.15 @ 10020 Pts is Rs 38 - 48 @ 10123 Pts = +10 Rs
Buy 10500 2.15 @ 10020 Pts is Rs 24 - 30 @ 10123 Pts = +6 Rs
Buy 10500 2.15 @ 10020 Pts is Rs 24 - 30 @ 10123 Pts = +6 Rs

examples 200 points
calls taken @ 9930 are exited @ 10130 (200 points difference, 2 days to expire)
Sold Nifty 4th Jun 10100 Ce @ 37 -86 = -50
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10200 Ce @ 17 -34 = +17
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10200 Ce @ 17 -45 =+27
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10300 Ce @ 10 -16 =+6
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10300 Ce @ 10 -21 = +11
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10300 Ce @ 10 -23 =+13

examples 300 points
calls taken @ 9494 are exited @ 9794 (300 points difference, 6 days to expire)
Sold 4th JUN 9700 CE 75 @35 - 173 =-138
Bought 4th JUN 9800 CE 75 @19 - 117 =+98
Bought 4th JUN 9900 CE 75 @10 - 75 =+65
Bought 4th JUN 10000 CE 75@ 6 - 45 =+39
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Basis for Trend Strategy
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1. Confirmation by any Trend indicator

Enter with stop loss as below or else you can buy an at the money CE or PE. But the premium will be huge. Market may need to move atleast 300 points to get back your premium cost itself.
Buy Nifty
Sell 300 points away CE option, because definitely you are not going to get more than that, also this premium will help to buy the 500 points down stop loss. You cannot bear more that 500 points stop loss.
Stop loss Buy PE 500 points down, because incase the market bleeds, you will lose all your money.

Incase the trend indicator turns Sell, then you need exit all position with a loss and do any one option below


Option 1
Sell Nifty
Sell 300 points away PE option, because definitely you are not going to get more than that
Buy CE 500 points above

Option 2
Buy at the money PE option to hedge current position. But this will be huge stop loss like 200 points.


Option 3
Accept the loss and carry forward the position until it gives profit, if you have money and strong heart.

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Post: #24   PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:55 pm    Post subject: Bear Story Reply with quote

In my 15 years of market observation, I heard many bear stories like below, but that never became real too often. But when it becomes real that will be really painful.

Once upon a time there lived a boy. he always tells that bear is coming , bear is coming. So every body stopped buying business. But it never came. So every body restarted buying business, but suddenly as the boy said one day bear came and killed everybody.

So the timing is important. Not too early and never be late. batman

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Post: #25   PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strategies - A paper trading is better way to master Stock market knowledge. Everyone should do paper trading before enter the market.
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Market Outlook
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The fact is Nifty Index is above the 50 days EMA and on Friday again it locked back itself to the rising trend. Bulls are going to be active again unless the trend weakness happens. So the Grinding Master has to get out for few days but he will come back soon, because there is no bear in sight. There will be upside swing movement if market crosses 10400 and close above 10400 in next 1 or 2 days.

Longterm
Unless it cuts and close below the 50 days EMA (9343), the market is going to touch 10835 just in 6 days. So if we buy now @ 10179 (P.closes 10017, 10085) then stop loss is 800 points. If we sell then the stop loss will be 700 points.

Shorterm
Sell cloud Disappeared. Only the Grinding master can come back. Please understand, we need to see 200 points gap down or 400 points intraday down, from high. Or atleast we need to negative closing for 3 consecutive days. That is the indication for a bear entry.

Trend Strategy Calls - Based on indicators
---------x-------------------------------------
No Calls

Trend Lock Strategy Calls - This is totally like Lottery, no strategy involved
----------x------------------------------------------------------------------------
Stop loss - 10000 Rs
Short 10300 11th Jun CE@66
Bought 10400 11th Jun CE@42
Bought 10400 11th Jun CE@42
Bought 10500 11th Jun CE@29


Trend Reversal Strategy Calls - Based on market observation
-----------x-------------------------------------------------------
Continue to adjust Bear put option strategies call, because there was no Trend reversal and no support for Bears.

Entry 1 -> Stop loss = 4575 Rs (61 pts) started when Nifty @ 9400
Bought 9600 Jun PE@ 297
Short 9100 Jun PE @ 176 (94+82)
Short 9100 Jun PE @ 70
Bought 9100 11th Jun PE@10

Entry 2 -> Stop loss = 13500 Rs (180 pts) started when Nifty @ 10000
Bought 9400 11th Jun PE@21
Short 9600 11th Jun PE @ 39

Entry 3 -> Stop loss = 5850 Rs (78 pts) started when Nifty @ 10000
Short 9800 11th Jun PE @ 81
Short 9700 Jun PE @ 147
Bought 9700 11th Jun PE@57
Bought 10000 Jun PE@ 249

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Basis for Trend Reversal Strategy
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1. Weakness in the Trend
2. Market Unlocked from the Trend
3. Confirmation by any Trend indicator

Enter Bull spread or Bear Spread Strategy with 5000 Rs stoploss for a 3000 Rs profit. This strategy always minimum loss and minimum profit. Good strategy for weak hearten and heart patients because less loss and less profit.

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Basis for Trend lock strategy
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Risk 5000 Rs Profit 0 Rs If no movement or opposite movement
Risk 10000 Rs Profit 0 Rs If all are against the strategy
Risk 0 Rs Profit 750 Rs If 100 Pts movement
Risk 0 Rs Profit 3000 Rs If 200 Pts movement
Risk 0 Rs Profit 5000 Rs If 300 Pts movement

examples 100 points
calls taken @ 10020 are exited @ 10120 (100 points difference, 7 days to expire)
Sold10300 2.15 @ 10020 Pts is Rs 57 - 76 @ 10123 Pts = -20 Rs
Buy 10400 2.15 @ 10020 Pts is Rs 38 - 48 @ 10123 Pts = +10 Rs
Buy 10400 2.15 @ 10020 Pts is Rs 38 - 48 @ 10123 Pts = +10 Rs
Buy 10500 2.15 @ 10020 Pts is Rs 24 - 30 @ 10123 Pts = +6 Rs
Buy 10500 2.15 @ 10020 Pts is Rs 24 - 30 @ 10123 Pts = +6 Rs

examples 200 points
calls taken @ 9930 are exited @ 10130 (200 points difference, 2 days to expire)
Sold Nifty 4th Jun 10100 Ce @ 37 -86 = -50
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10200 Ce @ 17 -34 = +17
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10200 Ce @ 17 -45 =+27
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10300 Ce @ 10 -16 =+6
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10300 Ce @ 10 -21 = +11
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10300 Ce @ 10 -23 =+13

examples 300 points
calls taken @ 9494 are exited @ 9794 (300 points difference, 6 days to expire)
Sold 4th JUN 9700 CE 75 @35 - 173 =-138
Bought 4th JUN 9800 CE 75 @19 - 117 =+98
Bought 4th JUN 9900 CE 75 @10 - 75 =+65
Bought 4th JUN 10000 CE 75@ 6 - 45 =+39
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Basis for Trend Strategy
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1. Confirmation by any Trend indicator

Enter with stop loss (21000 Rs generally) or else you can buy an at the money CE or PE. But the premium will be huge. Market may need to move atleast 300 points to get back your premium cost itself.

Or else if you are watching market all the time, then do trading as per any trend technical indicators, without stoploss. Wrong entries by the technical indicators are the stop loss here, generally it will be 100 to 300 points. if three entries wrong, then you will lose minimum 30000 Rs. If you dont stick to the indicator, you will lose more than 1000 points in a rally.

So to follow this strategy you need to be a stubborn and unmovable force. First of all you should not read any newspapers and watch any financial news channels or websites, that is the first qualification for this strategy. See only the Trend indicator that you follow.

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Post: #26   PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strategies - A paper trading is better way to master Stock market knowledge. Everyone should do paper trading before enter the market.
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Market Outlook
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The fact is Nifty Index is above the 50 days EMA and today it shown some rest, not negative sign. This is normal. But Sell signals started to appear. The marked continued to be locked up in the rising trend. No swing movement because market not crossed 10400 today.

Longterm
Unless it cuts and close below the 50 days EMA (9343), the market is going to touch 10835 just in 5 days. So if we buy now @ 10165 (P.closes 10145, 10017, 10085) then stop loss is 800 points. If we sell then the stop loss will be 700 points.

Shorterm
Short term indicators are started to Red. There will be 150 to 300 points down, but that doesnot mean the bears entered. For bear it needs more than 500 points down and close below 9343 for a blood bath. Otherwise it is a small pain.


Trend Strategy Calls - Based on indicators
---------x-------------------------------------
No Calls

Trend Lock Strategy Calls - This is totally like Lottery, no strategy involved
----------x------------------------------------------------------------------------
Exit with a profit of 1200 rs (15 pts entered @ 10100 pts exit @ 10280 pts 180 pts difference)
Stop loss - 10000 Rs
Short 10300 11th Jun CE@66 - 105 = -39
Bought 10400 11th Jun CE@42 - 64 = +22
Bought 10400 11th Jun CE@42 - 64 = +22
Bought 10500 11th Jun CE@29 - 39 = +10


Trend Reversal Strategy Calls - Based on market observation
-----------x-------------------------------------------------------
Continue to adjust Bear put option strategies call, because there was no Trend reversal and no support for Bears.

Entry 1 -> Stop loss = 70,000 Rs (1000 pts) started when Nifty @ 9400
Bought 9600 Jun PE@ 297 - (60 rs) come out of this at 60 Rs, disappointing, now there is a huge stop loss due to two open short position. The stop loss will be 1000 pts incase market unexpectedly lower freeze tomorrow.
Short 9100 Jun PE @ 176 (94+82)
Short 9100 Jun PE @ 70
Bought 9100 11th Jun PE@10 -2 =-8


Entry 2 ->
Exit with a profit of 1100 Rs
Stop loss = 13500 Rs (180 pts) started when Nifty @ 10000
Bought 9400 11th Jun PE@21 - 4 = -17
Short 9600 11th Jun PE @ 39 -7 = +32

Adjust
Entry 3 -> Stop loss = 5850 Rs (78 pts) started when Nifty @ 10000
Short 9800 11th Jun PE @ 81 - 14
Short 9700 Jun PE @ 147
Short 9800 Jun PE @ 102
Bought 9700 11th Jun PE@57
Bought 9700 11th Jun PE@10
Bought 10000 Jun PE@ 249 - 139
Bought 10100 Jun PE@ 169
Bought 10200 Jun PE@ 222
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Basis for Trend Reversal Strategy
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1. Weakness in the Trend
2. Market Unlocked from the Trend
3. Confirmation by any Trend indicator

Enter Bull spread or Bear Spread Strategy with 5000 Rs stoploss for a 3000 Rs profit. This strategy always minimum loss and minimum profit. Good strategy for weak hearten and heart patients because less loss and less profit.

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Basis for Trend lock strategy
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Risk 5000 Rs Profit 0 Rs If no movement or opposite movement
Risk 10000 Rs Profit 0 Rs If all are against the strategy
Risk 0 Rs Profit 750 Rs If 100 Pts movement
Risk 0 Rs Profit 3000 Rs If 200 Pts movement
Risk 0 Rs Profit 5000 Rs If 300 Pts movement

examples 100 points
calls taken @ 10020 are exited @ 10120 (100 points difference, 7 days to expire)
Sold10300 2.15 @ 10020 Pts is Rs 57 - 76 @ 10123 Pts = -20 Rs
Buy 10400 2.15 @ 10020 Pts is Rs 38 - 48 @ 10123 Pts = +10 Rs
Buy 10400 2.15 @ 10020 Pts is Rs 38 - 48 @ 10123 Pts = +10 Rs
Buy 10500 2.15 @ 10020 Pts is Rs 24 - 30 @ 10123 Pts = +6 Rs
Buy 10500 2.15 @ 10020 Pts is Rs 24 - 30 @ 10123 Pts = +6 Rs

examples 200 points
calls taken @ 9930 are exited @ 10130 (200 points difference, 2 days to expire)
Sold Nifty 4th Jun 10100 Ce @ 37 -86 = -50
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10200 Ce @ 17 -34 = +17
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10200 Ce @ 17 -45 =+27
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10300 Ce @ 10 -16 =+6
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10300 Ce @ 10 -21 = +11
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10300 Ce @ 10 -23 =+13

examples 300 points
calls taken @ 9494 are exited @ 9794 (300 points difference, 6 days to expire)
Sold 4th JUN 9700 CE 75 @35 - 173 =-138
Bought 4th JUN 9800 CE 75 @19 - 117 =+98
Bought 4th JUN 9900 CE 75 @10 - 75 =+65
Bought 4th JUN 10000 CE 75@ 6 - 45 =+39
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Basis for Trend Strategy
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1. Confirmation by any Trend indicator

Enter with stop loss (21000 Rs generally) or else you can buy an at the money CE or PE. But the premium will be huge. Market may need to move atleast 300 points to get back your premium cost itself.

Or else if you are watching market all the time, then do trading as per any trend technical indicators, without stoploss. Wrong entries by the technical indicators are the stop loss here, generally it will be 100 to 300 points. if three entries wrong, then you will lose minimum 30000 Rs. If you dont stick to the indicator, you will lose more than 1000 points in a rally.

So to follow this strategy you need to be a stubborn and unmovable force. First of all you should not read any newspapers and watch any financial news channels or websites, that is the first qualification for this strategy. See only the Trend indicator that you follow.
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Post: #27   PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strategies - A paper trading is better way to master Stock market knowledge. Everyone should do paper trading before enter the market.
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Market Outlook
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The fact is Nifty Index is above the 50 days EMA and today it shown some negative sign. This is normal. But Sell signals started to appear and strong. No upward swing movement because market not crossed 10400 today. I believe the nifty will be in range between 9800 to 10200 for 3 more days, if not closed below 9800.

Longterm
Unless it cuts and close below the 50 days EMA (9343), and swing above 10400, the market is going to touch 10835 just in 4 days. So if we buy now @ 10000 (P.closes 10165, 10145, 10017, 10085) then stop loss is 750 points. If we sell then the stop loss will be 800 points.

Shorterm
Short term indicators are confirmed to Red and stuck to the down trend. There will be 150 to 300 points down, but that doesnot mean the bears entered. For bear it needs more than 500 points down and close below 9343 for a blood bath. Otherwise it will come again to 10200 after touching 9800 , and if not close below that.


Trend Strategy Calls - Based on indicators
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No Calls

Trend Lock Strategy Calls - This is totally like Lottery, no strategy involved
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Stop loss - 10000 Rs (entered @ 10000 pts )
Short 9900 11th Jun PE@ 25
Bought 9800 11th Jun PE@16
Bought 9800 11th Jun PE@16
Bought 9800 11th Jun PE@16


Trend Reversal Strategy Calls - Based on market observation
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Continue to adjust Bear put option strategies call, because there was no Trend reversal and no support for Bears.

Entry 1 -> Stop loss = 70,000 Rs (1000 pts) started when Nifty @ 9400
Bought 9600 Jun PE@ 297 - (60 rs) come out of this at 60 Rs, disappointing, now there is a huge stop loss due to two open short position. The stop loss will be 1000 pts incase market unexpectedly lower freeze tomorrow.
Short 9100 Jun PE @ 176 (94+82)
Short 9100 Jun PE @ 70
Bought 9100 11th Jun PE@10 -2 =-8


Adjust
Entry 2 -> Stop loss = 5850 Rs (78 pts) started when Nifty @ 10000
Short 9800 11th Jun PE @ 81 - 14
Short 9700 Jun PE @ 147
Short 9800 Jun PE @ 102 - 166
Short 10000 Jun PE @151
Bought 9700 11th Jun PE@57 -7.5
Bought 9700 11th Jun PE@10 - 7.5
Bought 10000 Jun PE@ 249 - 139
Bought 10100 Jun PE@ 169
Bought 10100 Jun PE@ 228
Bought 10200 Jun PE@ 222 - 278
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Basis for Trend Reversal Strategy
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1. Weakness in the Trend
2. Market Unlocked from the Trend
3. Confirmation by any Trend indicator

Enter Bull spread or Bear Spread Strategy with 5000 Rs stoploss for a 3000 Rs profit. This strategy always minimum loss and minimum profit. Good strategy for weak hearten and heart patients because less loss and less profit.

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Basis for Trend lock strategy
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Risk 5000 Rs Profit 0 Rs If no movement or opposite movement
Risk 10000 Rs Profit 0 Rs If all are against the strategy
Risk 0 Rs Profit 750 Rs If 100 Pts movement
Risk 0 Rs Profit 3000 Rs If 200 Pts movement
Risk 0 Rs Profit 5000 Rs If 300 Pts movement

examples 100 points
calls taken @ 10020 are exited @ 10120 (100 points difference, 7 days to expire)
Sold10300 2.15 @ 10020 Pts is Rs 57 - 76 @ 10123 Pts = -20 Rs
Buy 10400 2.15 @ 10020 Pts is Rs 38 - 48 @ 10123 Pts = +10 Rs
Buy 10400 2.15 @ 10020 Pts is Rs 38 - 48 @ 10123 Pts = +10 Rs
Buy 10500 2.15 @ 10020 Pts is Rs 24 - 30 @ 10123 Pts = +6 Rs
Buy 10500 2.15 @ 10020 Pts is Rs 24 - 30 @ 10123 Pts = +6 Rs

examples 200 points
calls taken @ 9930 are exited @ 10130 (200 points difference, 2 days to expire)
Sold Nifty 4th Jun 10100 Ce @ 37 -86 = -50
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10200 Ce @ 17 -34 = +17
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10200 Ce @ 17 -45 =+27
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10300 Ce @ 10 -16 =+6
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10300 Ce @ 10 -21 = +11
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10300 Ce @ 10 -23 =+13

examples 300 points
calls taken @ 9494 are exited @ 9794 (300 points difference, 6 days to expire)
Sold 4th JUN 9700 CE 75 @35 - 173 =-138
Bought 4th JUN 9800 CE 75 @19 - 117 =+98
Bought 4th JUN 9900 CE 75 @10 - 75 =+65
Bought 4th JUN 10000 CE 75@ 6 - 45 =+39
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Basis for Trend Strategy
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1. Confirmation by any Trend indicator

Enter with stop loss (21000 Rs generally) or else you can buy an at the money CE or PE. But the premium will be huge. Market may need to move atleast 300 points to get back your premium cost itself.

Or else if you are watching market all the time, then do trading as per any trend technical indicators, without stoploss. Wrong entries by the technical indicators are the stop loss here, generally it will be 100 to 300 points. if three entries wrong, then you will lose minimum 30000 Rs. If you dont stick to the indicator, you will lose more than 1000 points in a rally.

So to follow this strategy you need to be a stubborn and unmovable force. First of all you should not read any newspapers and watch any financial news channels or websites, that is the first qualification for this strategy. See only the Trend indicator that you follow.
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Post: #28   PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a New call for Bull Ce spread. The existing bear pe continues to be in loss. No time to update. Market short term unlocked from down trend. The down trend couldn’t even last for 3 hours. Stupid bears. So start doing bull ce spread. 10400 is the key to cross and touch 10800 in 3 days. Ce 10200 buy @ 202 ce 10300 sell @ 156. Next Tuesday swing movement may happen... either touch 10600 or 9600. So the lottery strategy should work. Now the grinding master has to get out. End of grinding master work.
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Post: #29   PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every time when a retail trader comes to market with pocket full of money, the market pulls down their pant, takes money and send back to home with a ding dong. This happens common. Rarest of rare retail investor makes money, CONTINUESLY. In my Several attempts I always get ding dong. This is the first time I did back that to market with the lottery and trend reversal strategies. Thanks to luck and charts. With this happiness I am going to leave market for some months, deposit money in bank. After some more homework can get back in2021 or after confidence , because I was witnessing the market from 8800 to 10350, but made peanuts. All the indicators were correct and I should have made more than 750 points at least. But did not happen. So some where there is wrong need to correct that before re entry.
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Post: #30   PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strategies - A paper trading is better way to master Stock market knowledge. Everyone should do paper trading before enter the market.
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Market Outlook
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Unless Nifty cuts and stays below 10466, Nifty has fare chance to touch 11500 in just 10 days. on 17 July. AEOM

Shorterm
Cuts below 10466, there is 300 points chance of down in 5 days. on 10 July


Trend Strategy Calls - Based on indicators
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No Calls

Trend Lock Strategy Calls - This is totally like Lottery, no strategy involved
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No Calls

Trend Reversal Strategy Calls - Based on market observation
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July PE Buy
July PE Sell
July PE Sell

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Basis for Trend Reversal Strategy
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1. Weakness in the Trend
2. Market Unlocked from the Trend
3. Confirmation by any Trend indicator

Enter Bull spread or Bear Spread Strategy with 5000 Rs stoploss for a 3000 Rs profit. This strategy always minimum loss and minimum profit. Good strategy for weak hearten and heart patients because less loss and less profit.


I analysed it , we can only earn 1000 Rs for 100 Points Nifty movement (if we we keep 3500 Rs stop loss per entry). There is no other way. So we need to be correct for 8 out of 10 trades. Otherwise it will be in loss.

If we are okay with 10,000 Rs stop loss per entry, then still we will earn 1000 Rs for 100 points. Only when we keep for 250 points without changing position, then we will earn 7500 Rs. So if we are correct for 8 out of 10 trades in a month, then we will get 40,000 Rs per month. But there is no guarantee that we will get 10 entries in a month. may be we will get 3 , so if 2 entry is failed then you are gone with 15000 Rs.

100 Points or 200 points success is really there and you can earn only 1000 Rupees with 3500 Rs stoploss. No other way. 40 Only way is to have 8 trades in your favour and exit the remaining 2 trades at 2500 Rs stop loss each(instead of 3500 Rs, because even on expiry date the far out of the money option will trade at the range of 5 to 10 Rs).

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Basis for Trend lock strategy
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Risk 5000 Rs Profit 0 Rs If no movement or opposite movement
Risk 10000 Rs Profit 0 Rs If all are against the strategy
Risk 0 Rs Profit 750 Rs If 100 Pts movement
Risk 0 Rs Profit 3000 Rs If 200 Pts movement
Risk 0 Rs Profit 5000 Rs If 300 Pts movement

examples 100 points
calls taken @ 10020 are exited @ 10120 (100 points difference, 7 days to expire)
Sold10300 2.15 @ 10020 Pts is Rs 57 - 76 @ 10123 Pts = -20 Rs
Buy 10400 2.15 @ 10020 Pts is Rs 38 - 48 @ 10123 Pts = +10 Rs
Buy 10400 2.15 @ 10020 Pts is Rs 38 - 48 @ 10123 Pts = +10 Rs
Buy 10500 2.15 @ 10020 Pts is Rs 24 - 30 @ 10123 Pts = +6 Rs
Buy 10500 2.15 @ 10020 Pts is Rs 24 - 30 @ 10123 Pts = +6 Rs

examples 200 points
calls taken @ 9930 are exited @ 10130 (200 points difference, 2 days to expire)
Sold Nifty 4th Jun 10100 Ce @ 37 -86 = -50
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10200 Ce @ 17 -34 = +17
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10200 Ce @ 17 -45 =+27
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10300 Ce @ 10 -16 =+6
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10300 Ce @ 10 -21 = +11
Buy Nifty 4th Jun 10300 Ce @ 10 -23 =+13

examples 300 points
calls taken @ 9494 are exited @ 9794 (300 points difference, 6 days to expire)
Sold 4th JUN 9700 CE 75 @35 - 173 =-138
Bought 4th JUN 9800 CE 75 @19 - 117 =+98
Bought 4th JUN 9900 CE 75 @10 - 75 =+65
Bought 4th JUN 10000 CE 75@ 6 - 45 =+39
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Basis for Trend Strategy
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1. Confirmation by any Trend indicator

Enter with stop loss (21000 Rs generally) or else you can buy an at the money CE or PE. But the premium will be huge. Market may need to move atleast 300 points to get back your premium cost itself.

Or else if you are watching market all the time, then do trading as per any trend technical indicators, without stoploss. Wrong entries by the technical indicators are the stop loss here, generally it will be 100 to 300 points. if three entries wrong, then you will lose minimum 30000 Rs. If you dont stick to the indicator, you will lose more than 1000 points in a rally.

So to follow this strategy you need to be a stubborn and unmovable force. First of all you should not read any newspapers and watch any financial news channels or websites, that is the first qualification for this strategy. See only the Trend indicator that you follow.
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