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casper Green Belt
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Post: #136 Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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wonderful rahul
keep it up, i guess every one who succeeded and created a new path has just taken that risk about which other debated...
i am so happy with ur reply that i am going to request all the ichartians i personally know to read it
rgrds
casper
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Rahulsharmaat Black Belt
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Post: #137 Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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All periods are calculated--
if u want at least 200 points every month on consistent then
3EMA-- 34 EMA cross over-- 30 Min TF---let candle close n on opening trade.
few rules:
1} Ur EMA gave short at 5690 on friday, don"t see high was 5760-- dont see we fallen too much, Don"t listen friends, broker, TV, other charts-- News, FII inflow. Just trade Mechanically, No emmotions--- you will win sure
Look when i started this silver trades many said me risk reward is bad-- target 150 -- SL 400--500-- let it be-- atleast allow it to hit SL- last 30 trading days 98 % success , why will i listen others, Friends who follow silver they said look it will blast--look it will crash--- let it go to hell
I will see 12-- 1 PM high n low-- n trade -- one day i made long and booked 150 points-- as i place sell order same time,, silver rallied 2100 points.., Let it rally--- i want 150 only n only
that u have to decide and stick on
its your money--look i am trading from last 6 years-- and till last 1 month-- i was big failureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
as i knew what to trade but influenced by others i have to buy cairn-- but people said short--i shorted n lost money-- NO dont do that
just follow system--- short at 5690--let nifty gap up-- never mind-- it will give exit n long-- why worried
there is always first day-- so monday is first day--start it
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hemzbond White Belt
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Post: #138 Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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HOW TO identify IF THE MRKET IS TRENDING OR IS RANGE BOUND?
I fully agree with arjun wen he says we might have to take losses in a range bound market.
can some one give tips as to how to identify a range bound market.
i m sharing some pointers frm whatever little knowledge i hve :
mkt is range bound when :
1. look for high and lows in the price, if the previous high or low is not broken
2. if bb is forming a very narrow channel
3. if 8 sma and 34 sma r very close to each other
4. when dmi is below red and green ine
pl. let me know if u hv better indicator
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vinst Black Belt
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Post: #139 Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:11 am Post subject: |
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rahul,
any results u have on 3-34 ema crossover on EOD ?
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Rahulsharmaat Black Belt
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Post: #140 Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:50 am Post subject: |
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3 Ema--34 Ema--EOD-- trades
Long @ 4076 -, 15th jan 07, Booked @ 4060-- 23Rd feb-- loss 16 points
Short @ 4060 23 Feb--- Booked @ 3822 -13 April--- gain 238 Points
Long at 3822 same day , Booked on 4130-- june 13 gain 308 points
Short at 4130 same day booked 4130 --19th june-- 00 points
Long at 4130 same day booked 2nd Aug @ 4272--gain 142 points
Short at 4272 same day Booked 30 Aug @ 4409---- loss 137 points
Long at 4409 same day booked 18 jan 08--@ 5862-- gain 1453 points
Short at 5862 booked on 17th april08--@ 4952-- gain 900 points
Long same day @ 4952 Booked 26 may @ 4917-- loss 35 points
Short at 4917 booked 23 July @ 4400 gain 483 points
Long at 4400 Booked at 22 aug @ 4265-- loss 135 points
Short at 4265 booked 4th seo 4462-- loss 200 points
Long at 4462 booked 12 Sep 4345-- loss 120 points
Short at 4365 booked 16 Dec @ 2916 -- gain 1449 points
Long at 2916 booked 26 Dec @ 2973-- loss 57 points
Short at 2973 booked at 31 Dec @ 3000-- loss 27 points
Long at 3000 Booked 9th Jan @ 2880-- loss 120 points
Short at 2880 booked 10 Feb @ 2906-- loss 26 points
Long at 2906 booked at 17th Fen 09 @ 2800-- loss 106 points
short at 2800 booked 18 Mar @ 2780--gain 20 points
Long at 2780 booked at 7th July 09--@ 4180-- gain 1400 points
Short at 4180 booked @ 17 July 4266-- loss 86 points
Long at 4266 booked 20 Aug @ 4445-- gain 179 points
short at 4445 booked at 21 Aug @ 4424-- gain 21 points
Long at 4424 booked 28 Oct @ 4830-- gain 406 points
Short at 4830 booked 11 Nov @ 4890-- loss 60 points
Long at 4890 booked at 18 Dec @ 5018--gain 128 points
Short at 5018 booked 24 Dec @ 5160-- loss 142 points
Long at 5160 booked 22 jan 10 @ 5000-- loss 160 points
Short @ 5000 booked 3 Mar 10-@ 5032-- loss 32 points
Long at 5032 booked 4 may @ 5224-- gain 192 points
Short at 5224 booked 14 June @ 5138-- gain 86 points
Long at 5138 booked 1St sep @ 5420-- gain 280 points
Short at 5420 booked at 3 Sep @ 5500-- loss 80 points
Long at 5500 booked 18 Nov @ 6018-- gain 518 points
Short at 6018 booked 22 Dec @ 6025-- loss 7 points
Long at 6025 booked 10 jan 11@ 5925-- loss 100 points
Short at 5925 booked 15 Mar 11 @ 5582-- gain 343 points
Long at 5582 booked 9 mar 11--@ 5700-- gain 112 points
Short at 5700 booked 25 Mar @ 5582-- gain 112 points
Long at 5582 Booked 3rd may @ 5700-- gain 118 points
Short at 5700 booked 18 June @ 5518-- gain 182 points
Long at 5518 booked at in hand closing friday at 5660-
Net gain 7855 points , Brokrage is 200 points and only 40 trades
so net gain after brokrage 7655 points from Jan 2007
Best realisation
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Rahulsharmaat Black Belt
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Post: #141 Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:58 am Post subject: 3--34 Ema EOD |
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It can result to 2.5 crore on investment of Rs 30000-- in 2007
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Increase 50% lot size after every 500 points net gain
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Rahulsharmaat Black Belt
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Post: #142 Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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Now some one here posted Silver trade statergy -- checking high -- low made between 12-- 1 pm-- book in 150 points-- both side-- short n long
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Arjun20 Yellow Belt
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Post: #143 Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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HI rahul
It will be better for us if u can note down once gain 3-34 EMA strat rules for 30min TF as well as EOD also. Bcos there is some confusion @ 34 EMA values. Whether it is Close EMA value only? and no low and high EMA values in both TFs?
Also entry/exit should be on 3-34 crossovers or price just closing above 3EMA?...(the way it was in8-34 EMA case)
Also where do u see Commo charts , where u can plot 55 SMA high/low values?
PLs clarify
regards
Arjun
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Arjun20 Yellow Belt
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Post: #144 Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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HI rahul
It will be better for us if u can note down once gain 3-34 EMA strat rules for 30min TF as well as EOD also. Bcos there is some confusion @ 34 EMA values. Whether it is Close EMA value only? and no low and high EMA values in both TFs?
Also entry/exit should be on 3-34 crossovers or price just closing above 3EMA?...(the way it was in8-34 EMA case)
Also where do u see Commo charts , where u can plot 55 SMA high/low values?
PLs clarify
regards
Arjun
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vinay28 Black Belt
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Post: #145 Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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I think Rahul has settled the issue and proved that it is possible.
Great work.
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vinst Black Belt
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Post: #146 Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:24 pm Post subject: Re: 3--34 Ema EOD |
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Rahulsharmaat wrote: | It can result to 2.5 crore on investment of Rs 30000-- in 2007
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Increase 50% lot size after every 500 points net gain |
rahul,
thanks a lot for working out data. very impressive and helping us to make better choice.
regards,
vin
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vinay28 Black Belt
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Post: #147 Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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Rahul, I have two questions
1. When vijaykannan first posted this thread in dec 10, he had mentioned 8 and 34 ema. Are you now confirming that it should be 3 and 34 ema?
2. For some reason, I am unable to change ema value in jcharts (EOD). Can I not work on jcharts (premium)?
Thanks
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Rahulsharmaat Black Belt
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Post: #148 Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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Sir,
1} I just checked 8 Ema-- 34 Ema-- EOD-- and ws not happy with the results-- as was not gaining more then 5000 points in any case--
2}then searched 55 SMA --high, low , n close-- not good returns--
3} 3 Ema-- 7Ema-- 34 Ema-- Eod-- not satisfied
4} few other ways i tested--
But finally i could see 3 EMA-- 34 EMA is best --gave almost 7500 points--
and for smaller time frame also 3EMA--34 EMA is good on 30 min TF--last
Monthley gain is 250--300 points
I will back test this as long as possible on 30 min TF also-- and post
I have posted all trades of 3 EMS 34 EMA-- EOD here
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Rahulsharmaat Black Belt
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Post: #149 Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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Vinay
Set on Jcharts -premium-- because this will give u value of EMA--thats important
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acdl White Belt
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Post: #150 Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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Arjun20 wrote: | HI rahul
It will be better for us if u can note down once gain 3-34 EMA strat rules for 30min TF as well as EOD also. Bcos there is some confusion @ 34 EMA values. Whether it is Close EMA value only? and no low and high EMA values in both TFs?
Also entry/exit should be on 3-34 crossovers or price just closing above 3EMA?...(the way it was in8-34 EMA case)
Also where do u see Commo charts , where u can plot 55 SMA high/low values?
PLs clarify
regards
Arjun |
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