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SID2060 White Belt

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Post: #316 Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:29 am Post subject: |
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500*3000 = 15 lakh. How 15k?? And mcx remain close on sundays so 6 days *4 weeks = 24 days nly. Plz fix the error and post again |
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vinst Black Belt

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Post: #317 Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: hi |
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chiragbvyas wrote: | hey winst,
as much as i remember u guys were using 8/34 ema cross over 30 tf originally, correct? then u introduced 3/34 , correct ? now i what i am seeing is 34/55. how much time u changed the ema's and what time frame ? currently which ema's combination u r using let me know. |
Hello chirag,
8/34 was proposed for EOD by vijaykannan while starting this thread. He did not show any trades here later on.
3/34 for 30min was favoured by rahulsharma which i also tested but not my preference.
presently, i am giving trades from a 30min based system which i'll disclose at the end of 8 trades. as of now , it is 4th trade running (long @ 5002 on 30-Aug). I am not using 34/55 ema combination. |
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freedom White Belt

Joined: 06 Jul 2011 Posts: 126
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Post: #318 Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: hi |
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vinst wrote: | chiragbvyas wrote: | hey winst,
as much as i remember u guys were using 8/34 ema cross over 30 tf originally, correct? then u introduced 3/34 , correct ? now i what i am seeing is 34/55. how much time u changed the ema's and what time frame ? currently which ema's combination u r using let me know. |
Hello chirag,
8/34 was proposed for EOD by vijaykannan while starting this thread. He did not show any trades here later on.
3/34 for 30min was favoured by rahulsharma which i also tested but not my preference.
presently, i am giving trades from a 30min based system which i'll disclose at the end of 8 trades. as of now , it is 4th trade running (long @ 5002 on 30-Aug). I am not using 34/55 ema combination. |
EVEN I AM WAITING |
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vinst Black Belt

Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 3303
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Post: #319 Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:17 pm Post subject: Re: hi |
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freedom wrote: | vinst wrote: |
Hello chirag,
8/34 was proposed for EOD by vijaykannan while starting this thread. He did not show any trades here later on.
3/34 for 30min was favoured by rahulsharma which i also tested but not my preference.
presently, i am giving trades from a 30min based system which i'll disclose at the end of 8 trades. as of now , it is 4th trade running (long @ 5002 on 30-Aug). I am not using 34/55 ema combination. |
EVEN I AM WAITING |
Freedom,
you are waiting to pull my legs
you font size is very good now. |
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freedom White Belt

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Post: #320 Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:07 pm Post subject: Re: hi |
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vinst wrote: | freedom wrote: | vinst wrote: |
Hello chirag,
8/34 was proposed for EOD by vijaykannan while starting this thread. He did not show any trades here later on.
3/34 for 30min was favoured by rahulsharma which i also tested but not my preference.
presently, i am giving trades from a 30min based system which i'll disclose at the end of 8 trades. as of now , it is 4th trade running (long @ 5002 on 30-Aug). I am not using 34/55 ema combination. |
EVEN I AM WAITING |
Freedom,
you are waiting to pull my legs
you font size is very good now. |
No sir, honestly even i am waiting. |
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satishboda White Belt

Joined: 15 Dec 2010 Posts: 54
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Post: #321 Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:21 am Post subject: |
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hello DH1988.. can you explain how to make 500 points per day in gold and silver... do you have strategy.. |
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opportunist White Belt

Joined: 27 Apr 2010 Posts: 356
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Post: #322 Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:07 am Post subject: |
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Give me just 12 points of nifty a day I will give you 1 crore rupees in 90 calendar days (66 trading days) starting with just 50K capital.
The way would be using nifty options only; no futures and broker zerodha (others are damn too costly for this kind of work). The method would revolve around 4-5 trades a day with just 2-3 points gain target per trade. But it works because of tremendous impact of compounding... we start with 12-15 lots of nifty options and end up trading 5000-6000 lots...
So that's it. Just net 12 points a day.
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ragarwal Yellow Belt

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Post: #323 Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:25 am Post subject: |
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dear opportunist,nice cud u plz devise a pra ctical strategy coz on paper evrything looks very rosy n easily achievable. |
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opportunist White Belt

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Post: #324 Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:59 am Post subject: |
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ragarwal wrote: | dear opportunist,nice cud u plz devise a pra ctical strategy coz on paper evrything looks very rosy n easily achievable. |
Ragrwal, It does look rosy but then I think I cannot elaborate further as I am currently executing the plan.
Thanks.
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ragarwal Yellow Belt

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Post: #325 Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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sure,thnx fr d reply, if u r successful plz elaborate as our other members cn also b benefitted |
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amitkbaid1008 Yellow Belt

Joined: 04 Mar 2009 Posts: 540
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Post: #326 Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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opportunist wrote: | Give me just 12 points of nifty a day I will give you 1 crore rupees in 90 calendar days (66 trading days) starting with just 50K capital.
The way would be using nifty options only; no futures and broker zerodha (others are damn too costly for this kind of work). The method would revolve around 4-5 trades a day with just 2-3 points gain target per trade. But it works because of tremendous impact of compounding... we start with 12-15 lots of nifty options and end up trading 5000-6000 lots...
So that's it. Just net 12 points a day.
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Opportunist this kind of trading plan is like walking (or say driving racing car) on thin ice; you can be in deep trouble any time |
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vtnarendra White Belt

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Post: #327 Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:58 am Post subject: 60 crores... |
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playing devil's advocate:
1. compounding per se is great when returns are guaranteed.
2. trading 15 - 20 lots is vastly different from trading 5000-6000 lots.
3. as lot sizes increase liquidity is a problem and executing trades at your prices may not be possible.
4. power cuts, server crashes, and other glitches can upset your execution and it would be very damaging at higher lot sizes.
5. rapid up moves and down moves can unnerve any trader
6. options have a different set of parameters that apply as compared to the relatively easier futures.
7. in fact the suggested strategy may work better with futures than options |
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vinst Black Belt

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Post: #328 Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:58 pm Post subject: Re: my30min system : vin |
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vinst wrote: | vinst wrote: |
NF opened gap up abv yesterday bar, but hit our SL.
Short position is closed. Long is not yet initiated.
this trade with my30min system:
shorted at 5548, closed at 4985, gain : (+)563 |
Go Long abv 5002. |
trade #4
SL for current long trade has been set at 4978 only to close long. Do not short here.
beware of opening gap and handle as explained 2-3 times during previous short trade.
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grizzlybull White Belt

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Post: #329 Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:33 pm Post subject: Re: 60 crores... |
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vtnarendra wrote: | playing devil's advocate:
1. compounding per se is great when returns are guaranteed.
2. trading 15 - 20 lots is vastly different from trading 5000-6000 lots.
3. as lot sizes increase liquidity is a problem and executing trades at your prices may not be possible.
4. power cuts, server crashes, and other glitches can upset your execution and it would be very damaging at higher lot sizes.
5. rapid up moves and down moves can unnerve any trader
6. options have a different set of parameters that apply as compared to the relatively easier futures.
7. in fact the suggested strategy may work better with futures than options |
my point from the start. you have to count the fear factor.. leveraging up to 3 - 4 lakhs may be manageable, but 2 -4 crores is ridiculous for a single human being.. occasionally you should play stock market cycles with some of the profits. gets easier then. example, once you make 5 lakhs, take away 2 - 3 lakhs and cycle trade, multiply your money in abt 1.5 to 2.5 years or better, once you make about 30 lakhs, put it in an fd, get monthly income, and then trade futures without a single iota of fear! trade sensibly, but you can adopt the gamblers instinct at the same time!
I assumed that the topic starter meant futures  |
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vinay28 Black Belt

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Post: #330 Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:54 am Post subject: |
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In such markets, if anything looks too good to be true, it is!!! |
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