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ANS_KOL White Belt

Joined: 16 Jul 2011 Posts: 84
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Post: #1081 Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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collected paper trading result of avinash intraday strategy from 15th june, lost rest of the data.
15 june-s@5493 b@5460(+33)
16 june-b@5420s@5446(+26)
17 june-s@5412 b@5375(+37)
20 june- stoploss more than 30 points , no trades taken.
21 june-no trades taken( link failure).
22 june-s@5293 b@5268 (+25)
23 june-b@5270 s@5310(+40)
24 june- stoploss more than 30 points, no trades taken.
27 june- stoploss more than 30 points, no trades taken.
28 june-s@5538 b@5508(+30)
29 june-stoploss more than 30 points, no intraday trade taken.
30 june-b@5630, sl triggered @5606(-24).
my broker charge me approx 4.5 to 5 rs per nf trade.
so cost of the7 trades almost 35points.
result- 33+26+37+25+40+30-24 =167-35= 132 points net gain.
but ALAS! those were paper trades only.
in july as soon as i started real time trades, scenario is completely different.
AISA LAGTA HAI KE, UPAR KOI HUM SE KHUSH NAHI HAI.... |
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ANS_KOL White Belt

Joined: 16 Jul 2011 Posts: 84
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Post: #1082 Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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today sold @5623, stoploss triggered @5646.(-23)
plus cost of trade rs. 5=(-2 .
total loss in july -82-28= -110 points.
normally i do not discard a strategy before i test it for 6 months, but if the trend continues , i will lost most of my trading capital well before 6 months.
any suggestion friends.
IS JULY JUST A BAD MONTH?
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vinay28 Black Belt

Joined: 24 Dec 2010 Posts: 11748
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Post: #1083 Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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Target achieved |
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casper Green Belt

Joined: 02 Oct 2010 Posts: 1315
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Post: #1084 Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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ANS_KOL wrote: | today sold @5623, stoploss triggered @5646.(-23)
plus cost of trade rs. 5=(-2 .
total loss in july -82-28= -110 points.
normally i do not discard a strategy before i test it for 6 months, but if the trend continues , i will lost most of my trading capital well before 6 months.
any suggestion friends.
IS JULY JUST A BAD MONTH?
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dear ans
i dont know this strategy in details. a cursory view in this thread suggest that the essence of this strategy is catching the early move which in raw market terms, we call "opening range break out"
while i am not an expert, but i am "trading for living" for quite a long time, i would like to assure you that there is no good month or evil month in this market. some time market reacts in our favor some time it does not, specially, there are two phases in market , one is trending phase ...... which is quite easy to trade and another is non trending or choppy phase... here market remains in narrow range
any strategy which is a super hit in trending market will become a "choker" during this choppy phase, its quite common in market.
if you want to trade successfully in choppy time or volatile time, u need to stick to your monitor to act up on the shortest moves and that requires lot of experience as well as technical insight .
from ur previous post, it was seen that you are a part time trader who does not have enough time to monitor the market and assuming you are not a "cutting edge technical trader" , i would like to suggest you that you should go for "positional trading" which will allow u a flexible time, for this positional trade, i would like to recommend that you should contact senior positional traders like speculator, nsinojia, mayur nasik, marne.vivek or jai2000, sing.ravee, jjm or any body else whose strategy suits you
if you go through the forum section u will notice that i chart forum is a "gem" its an excellent place to learn and share knowledge.
you can find various useful strategies which are time tested in this forum and you can contact them through this forum easily and if u r a subscriber, then u can contact them in shout box too (live chat)
most of the senior traders here are very cooperative and they take pleasure to help newbies, above all, if you are a subscriber then you can directly contact the site admin ST/PT sirs in case of any confusion regarding trading
finally i will conclude this post by saying " when you have finally reached Ichart, i believe , days of depression and agony in market is is now going to vanish soon"
ps- i am writing so much to tell you what i understood from ur posts that your time frame and availability of market time,is not suitable for intra trades. I, by no way, want to say that "dont follow this or follow only that", but i strongly believe that u have time for positional trading but u r trying to trade in intra and thats why when market is trending u r making good gain and when market is becoming dull, u r counting the loss as u dont hv the time to follow it properly which is essential for an intra trader |
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jjm White Belt

Joined: 17 Mar 2010 Posts: 411
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Post: #1085 Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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Dear ANS
Though I do not trade I have been following threads and noting the trades whether it was loss or profit or no trade..
Lot of confusion is on what price to be taken to calculate entry points, Sl and tgts..
One simple thing I found that consider the OHLC of candle than terminal prices..
I found the most accurate prices are candle prices
E.g. today based on SK ( Share khan ) the trade was never short i do not remember the fig..as writing from my resi..but diff betn H-O was 6.45 and L-O was 6.25 so trend was up and tgt achieved
Before taking trade do confirm rates in forum..
Do not rush for entry.. even if u r late ..max u may loose 5 pts.. but those will be fr profit..
Regards,
JJM |
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Rahulsharmaat Black Belt

Joined: 04 Nov 2009 Posts: 2766
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Post: #1086 Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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JJm you are right-- I went long seeing first 15 min candle-- n it was sucess |
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rk_a2003 Black Belt

Joined: 21 Jan 2010 Posts: 2734
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Post: #1087 Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Casper!
May I request You please to describe ( or atleast name them ) the strategies which are time tested and proven sucessful.
It will be really usefull for newbees here.
Thanks & Regards |
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casper Green Belt

Joined: 02 Oct 2010 Posts: 1315
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Post: #1088 Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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rk_a2003 wrote: | Dear Casper!
May I request You please to describe ( or atleast name them ) the strategies which are time tested and proven sucessful.
It will be really usefull for newbees here.
Thanks & Regards |
there are plenty, even if i start to describe them with a few lines, then the focus of this thread will be be de-railed and its not desirable too
while strategy depends on the trader and only trader as his /her capital, money management,risk taking attitude as well as stress management..... all r to b thought b4 choosing the right one, still i will highlight the threads which i personally believe added value in ichart forum and are a "must" in making a trader ( there will be much more which i cant mention, but u can search in future always )
so i better paste the urls of those threads, as far as descriptions are concerned.. go to the page one, read minutely what the author wants to establish as his/her theory or main rule, and the go through the examples to find out how those rules are respected, in case of any problem, u can post ur queries directly on the concerned thread, addressing the authors/active traders of that method. in case u need me, u r always welcome
http://www.icharts.in/forum/ssps-speculators-swing-pivot-system-t3444.html
here u can find rules of speculator sir, nowadays almost evrybody is following it or its variation
http://www.icharts.in/forum/nvk-set-up-t1910.html
this nvk set up is so unique bcoz it applies its unique rules on common divergence trading to minimize whipsaws (false signals) done by saikat sir
http://www.icharts.in/forum/trading-divergences-t2170.html
this thread is dedicated to all type of divergence and their trades , it was done by ravi_s, sherbaz bhai, and now a days many more then junior now senior traders
http://www.icharts.in/forum/running-with-the-wolves-t2310.html
running wid the wolves..... dont worry about bull or bear.... u r wid the wolves, introduced here by "shekharinvest"sir and followed by many including jjm
http://www.icharts.in/forum/ns-method-notable-strength-method-of-trading-for-all-time-t3510.html
ns- notable strength, ns - nitin sinojia...... here nsinoja sir put his views and his unique style of trading
http://www.icharts.in/forum/trading-education-for-the-newbees-experts-pl-help-t2778.html
phadkandu- when he started trading, he wanted all his seniors to help to clear his doubts and he too posted his own analysis here
http://www.icharts.in/forum/candlestick-patterns-t3153.html
if u want to know about candlestick and their unique potentials for prediction then this thread is for u, contributed by sing.ravee and sherbaz
http://www.icharts.in/forum/balanced-mind-t933.html
balanced mind.... what actually u need to be successful in market
finally, let me make some "personal advertise"
http://www.icharts.in/forum/a-laymans-approach-to-break-out-and-break-down-t2878,postorder,desc,start,2760.html
if u r layman like me and yet want to "fight" in this market, done by me wid lots of friends and fellow traders inputs, questions and answers and above all, well wishes
go through them and if u need any more help, plz dont hesiatate
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rainbow White Belt

Joined: 25 Feb 2010 Posts: 202
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Post: #1089 Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:58 am Post subject: casper |
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casper
yours was a sanity check on the very essence of trading. Great post. thank you! |
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rk_a2003 Black Belt

Joined: 21 Jan 2010 Posts: 2734
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Post: #1090 Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:54 am Post subject: |
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Casper !
Thanks a lot .Just by reading your post it self i felt like elevated.
I know all the newbees like me need to do a lot of hard work & Industry.
Thank you so much.........
RK |
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casper Green Belt

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Post: #1091 Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:20 am Post subject: |
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hii rainbow and rk
thanks and welcome
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Rahulsharmaat Black Belt

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Post: #1092 Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:23 am Post subject: |
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Open -- 5705.05
High 5708.80
as per Ichart real candle
But odin open at 5700 |
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vinay28 Black Belt

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Post: #1093 Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:33 am Post subject: |
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I got following two values for target and SL, trend being down
Target SL
5657.25 5712.90
5662.11 5722.70 |
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Rahulsharmaat Black Belt

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Post: #1094 Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:35 am Post subject: |
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5722 -- but how ???? |
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rk_a2003 Black Belt

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Post: #1095 Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:37 am Post subject: |
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Can any one post 15 Minute candle reading , please. |
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