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spiritualtrader White Belt
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Post: #1 Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:23 pm Post subject: Learning Spec Sir Swing System |
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Hi All,
Since past couple of days I am trying to learn Spec sir swing trading system. I myself do swing trading. But I have different set ups and system, which I have learn't over a period of time. I consider my self fortunate to come across some very good books and real good traders, which have helped me to be what I am today as a trader.
For me as a trader learning is an ongoing process but with an objective of execution as I am not an analyst I am a TRADER.
I am thankful to Jai sir, Spec sir and other fellow traders for helping me in learning this system which is as per my understanding one of the very good systems I have come across as a trader.
I was positing my queries, charts to various thread related to this system. I am starting this thread as I want to keep track of my learning and progress of my learning along with inputs and guidance of other fellow followers of this system.
I hope fellow traders, Jai sir, Spec Sir and other whose name I dont know yet (as I am not aware) help me out in my learning.
Thanks & Regards,
Spiritual
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spiritualtrader White Belt
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Post: #2 Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:38 pm Post subject: LT future 30 min TF |
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Dear Sir's,
I am posting chart of LT future which I have already posted in some other thread.
Ticker : LT Future
Time frame: 30 min
Query: How to identify that scrip is going in congestion or in range as per this method. In below mentioned chart last valid rejection had not given profits and now its in process of giving another rejection? Trend will change once the latest DPS taken out by price But prior to that there may be congestion
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Spiritual
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spiritualtrader White Belt
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Post: #3 Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:37 am Post subject: Educomp - 30 MIN TF |
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Jai Sir,
Kindly give your inputs on the attached chart. As it seems to me a very interesting chart and a good learning I can take from this chart.
Ticker: Educomp Future
TF : 30 min
Query: Have I plotted the swing pivots correctly? If yes what would be the new USP as I am unable to mark it? Kindly guide.
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Jai2000 White Belt
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Post: #4 Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:54 am Post subject: Educomp fut |
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spiritualtrader,
Educomp 30Tf USP is 211.65 - 23/09/'11- 11.30 hrs candle. Pivot is too far, you can wait for a rejection to enter long.
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Jai
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spiritualtrader White Belt
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Post: #5 Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:08 am Post subject: Re: Educomp fut |
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Jai2000 wrote: | spiritualtrader,
Educomp 30Tf USP is 211.65 - 23/09/'11- 11.30 hrs candle. Pivot is too far, you can wait for a rejection to enter long.
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Jai |
Thanks Jai Sir for solving the query.
Regards,
Spiritual
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spiritualtrader White Belt
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Post: #6 Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:21 am Post subject: DLF FUTURE 60 MIN TF |
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Jai Sir,
Kindly provide your inputs on the attached chart.
Ticker: DLF Future
TF: 60 minute.
Query: Can we trade the highlighted red area from long side is there any way of trading it using this method as EOD at that time was bullish or we have to wait for valid rejection?
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Spiritual
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spiritualtrader White Belt
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Post: #7 Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:47 pm Post subject: INFTY 15 MIN TF |
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Jai Sir,
Kindly check the chart attached. Kindly give your inputs.
Ticker: INFY FUTURE
Time Frame: 15 min
Query: What will be the SL ?
If my marking is right then it's a buy
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Spiritual
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Jai2000 White Belt
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Post: #8 Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:13 pm Post subject: RE |
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spiritualtrader,
hi Lowest point should be the SL, in this case it's 2486.35(infy-1m).Monday, if the price trades below this point ,then better wait for another valid rejection, if flat open,then u can buy with this same sl.
DLF--- Spirit, Spec sir himself declared that this strategy work well upto 30Tf.I'm trading his method more than 1 1/2 years, but i never traded 60TF or EOD.So i cant say anything about that.Better ask spec sir about higher TF! He uses simple 13ema for EOD, just ask him!
Based on 60TF's trend DLF given buy signal @202.35 on 5/10/'11! 4/10/'11- 15.30 & 5/10/'11 10hrs candles are upside rejection candles.
(Jai enough no more code word pls)
Regards,
Jai
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spiritualtrader White Belt
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Post: #9 Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:35 pm Post subject: Re: RE |
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Spec sir himself declared that this strategy work well upto 30Tf.I'm trading his method more than 1 1/2 years, but i never traded 60TF or EOD.So i cant say anything about that.Better ask spec sir about higher TF! He uses simple 13ema for EOD, just ask him!
Jai Sir,
Thanks for your inputs. I had asked the same thing to Spec sir y'day and he told me that originally it was 60 min tf + 34 ema combination. What I think is that it depends on an individual trader.
As I am trying to sync the system with my system of picking trades from EOD charts and trading tham on 60-75 min tf I am using such TF.
PS: I think upside breakout may happen in LT on 60 min tf of last DSP.
Regards,
Spiritual
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spiritualtrader White Belt
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Post: #10 Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Sir,
On Friday nifty opened with a huge upside GAP and also had taken out the DSP on 15 min tf. Now the option we have is to wait for REJECTION either price going down to 34 ema and then fulfilling the buy conditions OR RSI(5) getting OS.
My Q if price remain above 34 ema and RSI(5) will get OS than how to initiate the long trade?
Regards,
Spiritual
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jjm White Belt
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Post: #11 Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Spiritual
I know you are quite senior in terms of age as well as your tenure in stock market...
One humble request...
Way you have been posting queries/doubt...
It clearly suggest that you have not read the entire forum...
Time and again all these doubts have been answered by either specji or jai..
Let me share my experience
It took me 6 months to understand system
I took print out of all the related documents and kept it reading once in month till it started running in to my bloods... and I still read all new post in forum to check whether there is any value addition
The qtn you have asked I can exactly tell you on which day on whose query it has been answered..
Tell me frankly how many times you have read and do you have print out of complete thread on your trading desk..do you read it once a pivot is broken in tf you are following
Now coming back to your doubt..if prices keep drifting away fr 34 ema..will it be a end of world for you..I hope not.. how long it will be..2/3 , 5 days
Price will consolidate and will touch 34 ema or will correct and touches 34 ema..
A system stand alone can give 60-70 % success... I do not mind even if I loose 150-200 pts run as I know it gives me 200 pts/ lot per month
Since you are new to system ..I wont suggest it...but for your academic interest ..if you wish to know...shift to smaller tf say 5 look for valid rejection and convert it in to swing..
Mind it this is for seasoned one..or one can take entry based on his intra day trading system..
Specji has suggested this but it is not recommended ..if it suits to your trading and risk taking ability
Believe in system , doubters do not have place in stock market
Wishing you all the best
JJM
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spiritualtrader White Belt
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Post: #12 Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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jjm wrote: | Dear Spiritual
I know you are quite senior in terms of age as well as your tenure in stock market...
One humble request...
Way you have been posting queries/doubt...
It clearly suggest that you have not read the entire forum...
Time and again all these doubts have been answered by either specji or jai..
Let me share my experience
It took me 6 months to understand system
I took print out of all the related documents and kept it reading once in month till it started running in to my bloods... and I still read all new post in forum to check whether there is any value addition
The qtn you have asked I can exactly tell you on which day on whose query it has been answered..
Tell me frankly how many times you have read and do you have print out of complete thread on your trading desk..do you read it once a pivot is broken in tf you are following
Now coming back to your doubt..if prices keep drifting away fr 34 ema..will it be a end of world for you..I hope not.. how long it will be..2/3 , 5 days
Price will consolidate and will touch 34 ema or will correct and touches 34 ema..
A system stand alone can give 60-70 % success... I do not mind even if I loose 150-200 pts run as I know it gives me 200 pts/ lot per month
Since you are new to system ..I wont suggest it...but for your academic interest ..if you wish to know...shift to smaller tf say 5 look for valid rejection and convert it in to swing..
Mind it this is for seasoned one..or one can take entry based on his intra day trading system..
Specji has suggested this but it is not recommended ..if it suits to your trading and risk taking ability
Believe in system , doubters do not have place in stock market
Wishing you all the best
JJM |
JJM Sir,
Thanks for your reply.
How much time one takes in learning depends on individual. Some learn in 6 months and some may learn in 6 days. No body has taken the long time as how you are learning differs from individual to individual.
For me learning is not about reading same thing again and again but about trying to understand the logic of the thing and then start making MISTAKES in applying it. As long as some one is there to tell me what mistakes I am making, I will keep making mistakes while learning.
Unfortunately I was not part of icharts.in when Spec sir's thread was in full swing. When responses were quite fast and in depth. It happens like that only as those who wanted to learn the system learned it and started applying it, most of the people would had found the system hard and others would had move to some thing else. Now if you have observed if you put some thing in that tread response will not come fast and especially if you are new to the things or new to the site. Its quite normal and understandable. It does not mean people dont want to help (else Jai sir would not have explained me the things).
Due to this I started a different thread for myself. With a single motive of understanding the logic's of the system well and rationally. Also as during learning I have the habit of picking random scrip charts, so as to get new challenge. its like puzzle, I was not getting fit in two threads one the original one and the other started by Sumesh sir. MY MAIN INTENTION IS TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT I AM LEARNING THIS SYSTEM SO THAT THEY CAN HELP ME OUT.
Sir, the explanation you have given of my doubt, I am not able to understand. May be I was not able to put the things in right context.
I had asked now if before price touching 34 ema RSI get OS then how should we take the long entry. Do we need to wait for the price to retrace back to 34 ema or is there any other way?
Sir, you are absolutely right one must believe in his/her system. Doubters have no place in the stock market. BUT AT THE TIME OF LEARNING I WANT TO HAVE ALL THE SILLY DOUBTS AND I WANT TO CLEAR IT . Else I am not learning.
Thanks once again for helping me out.
Regards,
Spiritual
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spiritualtrader White Belt
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Post: #13 Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:27 am Post subject: Probable long trades |
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Putting 2 charts which as per my understanding are probable long trades both time frame - 30 mins.
one is already in an up trend renbaxy and another LT is at the verge of breaking the USP.
Regards,
Spiritual
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Jai2000 White Belt
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Post: #14 Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:49 am Post subject: Nifty Pivot |
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spiritualtrader,
hi, this kind of situation happens rarely( Pivot taken out by Gap). This time even 5Tf also didnt give alert, anyway..... Spirit, rejection is the best way to enter a trade, still there is no valid upside rejection.Better we wait.......
Regards,
Jai
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Jai2000 White Belt
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Post: #15 Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:04 am Post subject: Re |
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Spirit,
Ranboxy fine ! LT already in uptrend... how u arive at 1404.90? It was 1404 & Friday it taken out....... there's a 5TF rejction on friday, so if the price trading above friday's low we can trade with SL of 1381, otherwise as usual waiting is the best Option
Regards,
Jai
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