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anand1234
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Post: #121  Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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| anand1234 wrote: | hi......all
b careful abt indian mkt...............though RIL gas made record turnover...........doller is decrising.............world mkt r in good sentiment...........so everybody is bullish...................that means mkt r bearish........(when all r bullish...means.........mkt r bearish.........also vise-versa)........so on monday u may c a gap up opening........after that only dwn....dwn....dwn..........so took causion at uper side.........today or tomorrow mkt shd come dwn...........it shd fill the gap( created at upa fovt coming).........asper my little knowledge
seniors pls comments
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anand |
hi.......all
thanks NF..........wt I exactly told on 16/10/11 mkt r doing the same..........i mentioned we may c a gap up opening on 17/10.....then only dwn......dwn......dwn..............that is happening..............(when all r bullish...means.........mkt r bearish.........also vise-versa) and (it shd fill the gap created at upa fovt coming)......so 4500 is coming...........wait & c
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vinay28
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| Post: #122 Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:10 am Post subject: |
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God, anand, i shorted on ur call.  |
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ajayhkaul
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| Post: #123 Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:17 am Post subject: Contrarian call |
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| Vinay... why don't you use anand12.. as a contrarian indicator? I do !( just kidding) Must have your own edge...ASK YOURSELF ALWAYS .....what is it that you believe that is not true? |
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amolmails
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| Post: #124 Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:20 am Post subject: |
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| 5133 ??? viru sir number i will use it for today |
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casper
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| Post: #125 Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:24 am Post subject: |
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| vinay28 wrote: | | God, anand, i shorted on ur call. |
plz dont mind, it happens
by the way, its a t.a website, here charts and logic rules,
so no matter what the ichart id or rank the guy carries, plz discount any one and every one who does not show u the reason, preferably with some charts
t.a ppls are chartist, chart is supreme
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vinay28
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| Post: #126 Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:31 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for ur concern for me. pl see my pm |
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vinay28
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| Post: #127 Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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Ajay, please see my pm.
Reminds me of a friend, who was considered one of the best "jobbers" in market before the electronic trading days. (For those who don't know jobbers, they were specialised traders who traded in the "trading ring" and executed orders for you and me and the brokers.)
Anyway, he was, however, amazingly and consistently wrong on future market movement. I and a few friends of mine have been using his tips for contra moves regularly.  |
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anand1234
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| Post: #128 Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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| vinay28 wrote: | | God, anand, i shorted on ur call. |
If some how my post is helping u then it will b plesure for me............if u look Nf future is not crossing the leve 5150 with volume..........so simple it the traping the bulls.........from my side possitional tgt of NF is dwn only..............5200 is strooooong RES will not cross (if some how NF manage to cross 5200 with volume then new bull run will start but its looks toooooooo difficult) so 4500 is coming..............
[(950 citys in alover the world r doing striks against unemployments, inflations, financial crisis includes NewYork..........so all r indicates that mkt is not good....so .so.so dont traped.........allways keep in mind we will do with present situatuion)[/b]
when I am posting this now DOW.....NAS....SGX NIFTY FUTURE ALL R DWN..........b cautious.we r in edge of bulls.......take care.........
seniors pls comments if u have..........
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vinay28
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| Post: #129 Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Never mind anand, i covered my shorts, went long and made money.
Why are you so pessimistic? You seem to be one of those who is convinced that world is coming to an end. Market, like life, is all flexible. If market goes to 4500, it does not give you any credit but if it goes to 5400, where will you be?
Also, if you write so confidently, why do you ask seniors to comment? Either you ask seniors about your fears or if you write so forcefully like an expert, don't ask seniors. |
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anand1234
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| Post: #130 Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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| vinay28 wrote: | Never mind anand, i covered my shorts, went long and made money.
Why are you so pessimistic? You seem to be one of those who is convinced that world is coming to an end. Market, like life, is all flexible. If market goes to 4500, it does not give you any credit but if it goes to 5400, where will you be?
Also, if you write so confidently, why do you ask seniors to comment? Either you ask seniors about your fears or if you write so forcefully like an expert, don't ask seniors. |
hi......vinay
I appreciate ur comments..............wt I had rwitten totally my views..........and I am not an expert.................its my observation only.........may b I will b wrong.................but if u look my post at past over 90% time I was correct.............but I am not the person who tells correct every time............I am trying to share my views...............if there is any laps then seniors can comments on that ..........it will help us to sharing our views................
when every one r bulish yesterday I was comments that we r edg of the bulls..............look today NF is 100 pts dwn.........more pain r left.......just wait & c
at last I am confident that mkt will def. come at 4500 by today or tomorrow
pls dont mind I did not try to hert u
thyanks
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mania
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| Post: #131 Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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In my opinion, there is no room for words like "MUST" "SHOULD" "Definitely" in the market..
You can trade based on ur view.. , but you cann't dictate/force the market to move in your direction....
Now a days, every one can see the chart, analyze balance sheet and still struggling to make money... what ever worked in the last decade may not work for the current conditions... it is dynamic, if market can be predicted, then people would have designed a money making system and let it run...
It easy to give levels , but difficult to trade using the levels.. |
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ajayhkaul
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| Post: #132 Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:19 pm Post subject: Expectancy |
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| As you rightly say it is difficult to trade using 'levels'.This is usually due to the fact that the trader doesn't have a strategy or a clear idea under what conditions that strategy works (ie the individual traders' edge) . No one has an EDGE under all conditions , but 98% of the traders keep trading most of the time and that is a losing proposition.Hence the difficulty. How many traders know the statistical probability of their game? Maybe we should invite all i-chartians to discuss the expectancy of their trading system ? |
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freedom
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| Post: #133 Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:59 pm Post subject: Re: Expectancy |
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| AJAYHKAUL wrote: | | As you rightly say it is difficult to trade using 'levels'.This is usually due to the fact that the trader doesn't have a strategy or a clear idea under what conditions that strategy works (ie the individual traders' edge) . No one has an EDGE under all conditions , but 98% of the traders keep trading most of the time and that is a losing proposition.Hence the difficulty. How many traders know the statistical probability of their game? Maybe we should invite all i-chartians to discuss the expectancy of their trading system ? |
Every one has the EDGE but the difference stands where to differentiate it?
People tend to forget that TRADING is not for HABIT but for PROFIT. |
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vinay28
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| Post: #134 Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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Anand, you have not hurt me. Also, if you are proved right most of the time then, you ought to be an expert. On the other hand, if you are not expert, you are clearly giving an impression that your posts are based on someone else's advice.
When you state your predictions, you support it with TA logic and charts otherwise no one will show any interest in your post. You alone will have to read it and feel happy if you are right.
On icharts, you will find that experts give their findings and predictions based on TA for the benefit of all of us. |
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anand1234
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| Post: #135 Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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| vinay28 wrote: | Anand, you have not hurt me. Also, if you are proved right most of the time then, you ought to be an expert. On the other hand, if you are not expert, you are clearly giving an impression that your posts are based on someone else's advice.
When you state your predictions, you support it with TA logic and charts otherwise no one will show any interest in your post. You alone will have to read it and feel happy if you are right.
On icharts, you will find that experts give their findings and predictions based on TA for the benefit of all of us. |
hi.........vinay
once a gain your comments r good to me................but I did not try to create any impretion.............wt I said past also that i am sharing my views....not to dicted any one to follow that............if any body follows my post & get benifited that there part only....i will b not getting benifited.....I does not not look any Ta or charts............I am doing based on present newses, incidents, sinerios.........for that only I am feeling Nf may come down more
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