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freedom
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| vinst wrote: | | freedom wrote: | | t.chatterjee wrote: | rk and freedom
both u r talking same thing in different words and getting biased, plz cool down, we expect much more constructive ideas from both of u, dont waste ur energy in destruction
rk
hv u ever shorted in bull run? or bought on bear phase?? if u did not yet then do it
guess who am i????
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Story understood but guess who am i at the end of the story means back to square 1, difference stands you can write too much though guess who am i ?
Lastly sir, Brilliant mind never needs too much of money, they know "KAFAN MEIN POKAT NAHIN HOTA". |
Aur Murda roti nahin magta |
Hi Vinst.
Well murda roti mangta ki dal mangta, jis din mulakat hoga, usi din bol hi payunga. |
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rk_a2003
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| Post: #197 Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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Casper!
Going against the Market......No trader afford even to dream about it.That is different issue. You can not go against the market. Is that's why market is Supreme?!.
I think these phrases are not coming just like that, I don't think any normal trader coined them.They have much more deep rooted implications and meanings .They are not as simple as they look or concepts what we are thinking.
After the 2008-2009 fiasco of American economy (Almost they came near to collapse).What Ameican president said ... eventhough Nobody asked him.....He said " This is not the failure of Market Economy"has any body asked him.... no ...still he wanted to say that.If it is not the failure of the market economy then what? Is it the failure of you and me.
These Institutions, Western Govt's all of them propagate that Market is right! market is supreme etc...just to keep the sanctity of the system just to mould the consciousness of the people in favor of them.
Even though we are in the Market economy We need not hail It, join chorus with those forces .
I strongly belive Though We can not go against the market .Still market can not be Supreme , Market can not be right.It care a damn about people.( I can not diferentiate between market and market economy they are one and the same.)
Casper !
I know what i am talkig about might be different from the perspective of the traders. Still I feel every one should be able to differentiate these two things.
It may sound irrelevant for the people who think what is there in it for me or for my trading.but I am hopefull that most of the traders don't feel like that. |
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t.chatterjee
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| Post: #198 Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| rk_a2003 wrote: | Casper!
Going against the Market......No trader afford even to dream about it.That is different issue. You can not go against the market. Is that's why market is Supreme?!.
I think these phrases are not coming just like that, I don't think any normal trader coined them.They have much more deep rooted implications and meanings .They are not as simple as they look or concepts what we are thinking.
After the 2008-2009 fiasco of American economy (Almost they came near to collapse).What Ameican president said ... eventhough Nobody asked him.....He said " This is not the failure of Market Economy"has any body asked him.... no ...still he wanted to say that.If it is not the failure of the market economy then what? Is it the failure of you and me.
These Institutions, Western Govt's all of them propagate that Market is right! market is supreme etc...just to keep the sanctity of the system just to mould the consciousness of the people in favor of them.
Even though we are in the Market economy We need not hail It, join chorus with those forces .
I strongly belive Though We can not go against the market .Still market can not be Supreme , Market can not be right.It care a damn about people.( I can not diferentiate between market and market economy they are one and the same.)
Casper !
I know what i am talkig about might be different from the perspective of the traders. Still I feel every one should be able to differentiate these two things.
It may sound irrelevant for the people who think what is there in it for me or for my trading.but I am hopefull that most of the traders don't feel like that. |
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me too agree wid u, its not a healthy way of living and personally i dont expect much from them
its an irony that i trade in this market but me too, can not take it as an way of life, so i will second ur thought
if we look at market economy in a greater sense then it is not something to be proud about
at this point,i remember what swami vivekanada said about western world in general and europe in particular..."if the western materialism is not flooded with oriental spiritualism then there will be a disaster very soon as eurpose is sitting upon a volcano"
we, those who follow him or his ideas religiously, we interpret it as if it was an warning of world wars followed shortly after his death
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rk_a2003
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| Post: #199 Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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"its not a healthy way of living"
Thanks for describing so apt. |
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singh.ravee
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| Post: #200 Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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tussi log
 kutt-de ghat ho, ghadis-de jyada ho.
rgds
ravee
p.s.: sorry for posting in punjabi, i didn't find an appropriate proverb in english. any who knows punjabi can help in meaning
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vinst
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| Post: #201 Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| singh.ravee wrote: | tussi log,
kutt-de ghat ho, ghadis-de jyada ho.
rgds
ravee
p.s.: sorry for posting in punjabi, i didn't find an appropriate proverb in english. any who knows punjabi can help in meaning. |
we are doing exactly as per market behaviour nowadays |
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freedom
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| Post: #202 Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| t.chatterjee wrote: | | rk_a2003 wrote: | Casper!
Going against the Market......No trader afford even to dream about it.That is different issue. You can not go against the market. Is that's why market is Supreme?!.
I think these phrases are not coming just like that, I don't think any normal trader coined them.They have much more deep rooted implications and meanings .They are not as simple as they look or concepts what we are thinking.
After the 2008-2009 fiasco of American economy (Almost they came near to collapse).What Ameican president said ... eventhough Nobody asked him.....He said " This is not the failure of Market Economy"has any body asked him.... no ...still he wanted to say that.If it is not the failure of the market economy then what? Is it the failure of you and me.
These Institutions, Western Govt's all of them propagate that Market is right! market is supreme etc...just to keep the sanctity of the system just to mould the consciousness of the people in favor of them.
Even though we are in the Market economy We need not hail It, join chorus with those forces .
I strongly belive Though We can not go against the market .Still market can not be Supreme , Market can not be right.It care a damn about people.( I can not diferentiate between market and market economy they are one and the same.)
Casper !
I know what i am talkig about might be different from the perspective of the traders. Still I feel every one should be able to differentiate these two things.
It may sound irrelevant for the people who think what is there in it for me or for my trading.but I am hopefull that most of the traders don't feel like that. |
yes
me too agree wid u, its not a healthy way of living and personally i dont expect much from them
its an irony that i trade in this market but me too, can not take it as an way of life, so i will second ur thought
if we look at market economy in a greater sense then it is not something to be proud about
at this point,i remember what swami vivekanada said about western world in general and europe in particular..."if the western materialism is not flooded with oriental spiritualism then there will be a disaster very soon as eurpose is sitting upon a volcano"
we, those who follow him or his ideas religiously, we interpret it as if it was an warning of world wars followed shortly after his death
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Applaud, Mr. Chaterjee.
I was quite sometime in Belur math & mission.
Western world, all they believe, if you have a fair skin than you are talented & look at their economy, failed 4th times, their fascination towards fair skin, like-china, made them bleed though they won't learn any bit. All the believe in 2 things, DOLLAR & CLASSIFIED.
I don't know how many people in this forum know about mani bhowmick.
The point is in this forum, its quiet hard to find talent & even if you look out CMI,Chennai, the toppers are from east side.
Regarding the term "MARKET IS RIGHT" refers to the Economies of a given society in a given time frame with specified parameters & constraints, i do understand many people don't understand, what it exactly means & why the should be, they are not talented , at best they are all studious."Talents are born not made".
Regarding What, how,when Market think or behaves or reacts, i am least concerned, i am concerned about the return i get for my talent.
But what i see in this forum is the genre of MEDIOCRE and as Einstein said " Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." |
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freedom
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| Post: #203 Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| singh.ravee wrote: | tussi log
kutt-de ghat ho, ghadis-de jyada ho.
rgds
ravee
p.s.: sorry for posting in punjabi, i didn't find an appropriate proverb in english. any who knows punjabi can help in meaning |
 Aur tussi de wich bin pendi de lote. |
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singh.ravee
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| Post: #204 Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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freedom bhai,
lage raho
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vinay28
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| Post: #205 Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Freedom, cool down my friend. I am sure the only thing in front of you is your PC. Why get angry with it and bang its keyboard? Vent your feelings some other way or when you are face to face with someone you are angry with. It's definitely NOT good for your health.
Sometimes an unspoken word is more powerful than spoken one! Please take a deep breath, relax and enjoy life. And, yes, good luck! |
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rk_a2003
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| Post: #206 Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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"Regarding the term "MARKET IS RIGHT" refers to the Economies of a given society in a given time frame with specified parameters & constraints"
I am exactly talking about it. This is the argument for a Status quo by so called Intelligentsia of that particular society. Even this Intelligentsia was present with kings and kingdoms too who keep on trying to prove that “At this time frame with in this specified parameters and given constraints this is the best way to govern this society”. They will be present in each and every society to support a status quo.
And some people will be there who want to change that parameters and break the constraints .They will be the torch bearers of the future society which is progressive.
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"Talents are born not made”. This is nothing less than Reactionary, against modern scientific findings. It was prooved that even between the mind of Einstein and ordinary person the difference is not more than 1 % and if we see this fact along with another fact that human mind is grossly under utilized. It clearly exposes the hollowness of this argument and states there is no born talent.
We can see why such arguments come up... with in a while.
"But what i see in this forum is the genre of MEDIOCRE". This is the final nail in the coffin.
This is called ‘MEGALOMANIA’.
(For the sake of the readers---- Megalomania is “a delusional mental disorder that is marked by feelings of personal omnipotence and grandeur”) |
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ANS_KOL
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| Post: #207 Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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| freedom wrote: | | t.chatterjee wrote: | | rk_a2003 wrote: | Casper!
Going against the Market......No trader afford even to dream about it.That is different issue. You can not go against the market. Is that's why market is Supreme?!.
I think these phrases are not coming just like that, I don't think any normal trader coined them.They have much more deep rooted implications and meanings .They are not as simple as they look or concepts what we are thinking.
After the 2008-2009 fiasco of American economy (Almost they came near to collapse).What Ameican president said ... eventhough Nobody asked him.....He said " This is not the failure of Market Economy"has any body asked him.... no ...still he wanted to say that.If it is not the failure of the market economy then what? Is it the failure of you and me.
These Institutions, Western Govt's all of them propagate that Market is right! market is supreme etc...just to keep the sanctity of the system just to mould the consciousness of the people in favor of them.
Even though we are in the Market economy We need not hail It, join chorus with those forces .
I strongly belive Though We can not go against the market .Still market can not be Supreme , Market can not be right.It care a damn about people.( I can not diferentiate between market and market economy they are one and the same.)
Casper !
I know what i am talkig about might be different from the perspective of the traders. Still I feel every one should be able to differentiate these two things.
It may sound irrelevant for the people who think what is there in it for me or for my trading.but I am hopefull that most of the traders don't feel like that. |
yes
me too agree wid u, its not a healthy way of living and personally i dont expect much from them
its an irony that i trade in this market but me too, can not take it as an way of life, so i will second ur thought
if we look at market economy in a greater sense then it is not something to be proud about
at this point,i remember what swami vivekanada said about western world in general and europe in particular..."if the western materialism is not flooded with oriental spiritualism then there will be a disaster very soon as eurpose is sitting upon a volcano"
we, those who follow him or his ideas religiously, we interpret it as if it was an warning of world wars followed shortly after his death
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Applaud, Mr. Chaterjee.
I was quite sometime in Belur math & mission.
Western world, all they believe, if you have a fair skin than you are talented & look at their economy, failed 4th times, their fascination towards fair skin, like-china, made them bleed though they won't learn any bit. All the believe in 2 things, DOLLAR & CLASSIFIED.
I don't know how many people in this forum know about mani bhowmick.
The point is in this forum, its quiet hard to find talent & even if you look out CMI,Chennai, the toppers are from east side.
Regarding the term "MARKET IS RIGHT" refers to the Economies of a given society in a given time frame with specified parameters & constraints, i do understand many people don't understand, what it exactly means & why the should be, they are not talented , at best they are all studious."Talents are born not made".
Regarding What, how,when Market think or behaves or reacts, i am least concerned, i am concerned about the return i get for my talent.
But what i see in this forum is the genre of MEDIOCRE and as Einstein said " Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." |
dear freedom,
if you are a visitor to dakhineshwar and bellur math, better stop confronting with RK, because as a friend I know RK stands for RAMAKRISHNA.  |
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freedom
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| Post: #208 Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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| ANS_KOL wrote: | | freedom wrote: | | t.chatterjee wrote: | | rk_a2003 wrote: | Casper!
Going against the Market......No trader afford even to dream about it.That is different issue. You can not go against the market. Is that's why market is Supreme?!.
I think these phrases are not coming just like that, I don't think any normal trader coined them.They have much more deep rooted implications and meanings .They are not as simple as they look or concepts what we are thinking.
After the 2008-2009 fiasco of American economy (Almost they came near to collapse).What Ameican president said ... eventhough Nobody asked him.....He said " This is not the failure of Market Economy"has any body asked him.... no ...still he wanted to say that.If it is not the failure of the market economy then what? Is it the failure of you and me.
These Institutions, Western Govt's all of them propagate that Market is right! market is supreme etc...just to keep the sanctity of the system just to mould the consciousness of the people in favor of them.
Even though we are in the Market economy We need not hail It, join chorus with those forces .
I strongly belive Though We can not go against the market .Still market can not be Supreme , Market can not be right.It care a damn about people.( I can not diferentiate between market and market economy they are one and the same.)
Casper !
I know what i am talkig about might be different from the perspective of the traders. Still I feel every one should be able to differentiate these two things.
It may sound irrelevant for the people who think what is there in it for me or for my trading.but I am hopefull that most of the traders don't feel like that. |
yes
me too agree wid u, its not a healthy way of living and personally i dont expect much from them
its an irony that i trade in this market but me too, can not take it as an way of life, so i will second ur thought
if we look at market economy in a greater sense then it is not something to be proud about
at this point,i remember what swami vivekanada said about western world in general and europe in particular..."if the western materialism is not flooded with oriental spiritualism then there will be a disaster very soon as eurpose is sitting upon a volcano"
we, those who follow him or his ideas religiously, we interpret it as if it was an warning of world wars followed shortly after his death
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Applaud, Mr. Chaterjee.
I was quite sometime in Belur math & mission.
Western world, all they believe, if you have a fair skin than you are talented & look at their economy, failed 4th times, their fascination towards fair skin, like-china, made them bleed though they won't learn any bit. All the believe in 2 things, DOLLAR & CLASSIFIED.
I don't know how many people in this forum know about mani bhowmick.
The point is in this forum, its quiet hard to find talent & even if you look out CMI,Chennai, the toppers are from east side.
Regarding the term "MARKET IS RIGHT" refers to the Economies of a given society in a given time frame with specified parameters & constraints, i do understand many people don't understand, what it exactly means & why the should be, they are not talented , at best they are all studious."Talents are born not made".
Regarding What, how,when Market think or behaves or reacts, i am least concerned, i am concerned about the return i get for my talent.
But what i see in this forum is the genre of MEDIOCRE and as Einstein said " Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." |
dear freedom,
if you are a visitor to dakhineshwar and bellur math, better stop confronting with RK, because as a friend I know RK stands for RAMAKRISHNA. |
It seems like RK is not having pain that much than others speaking out for him.
"MAYER CHEYE MASIR DARD BASI", isn't it MR ANS_KOL.
Regarding RK, if it means RAMAKRISHNA than it also means roadside kutta.
Listen leave out spiritualism from this topic, i am well at point, what you can have is the guts to face truth. |
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freedom
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| Post: #209 Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| vinay28 wrote: | Freedom, cool down my friend. I am sure the only thing in front of you is your PC. Why get angry with it and bang its keyboard? Vent your feelings some other way or when you are face to face with someone you are angry with. It's definitely NOT good for your health.
Sometimes an unspoken word is more powerful than spoken one! Please take a deep breath, relax and enjoy life. And, yes, good luck! |
Vinay28, i have highest regard for you but i barely can tolerate peoples who pass comment on others without knowing fact, how come you derive , i am in front of PC, i may be using PDA.
Don't draw conclusion, please.
Regarding how to relax, i know that but people of mediocre teaching talent, is not my menu ? |
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casper
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| Post: #210 Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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will u guys ever stop??
im sure now admin will arrive and get some of us banned
plz, be on topic and stop commenting on each other |
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