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Post: #121 Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:29 am Post subject: |
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Varun,
Yes, I avoid reversals only if there is a gap up/down as gaps tend to distort indicators for a while.
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Post: #122 Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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Long reversal trade triggered on close of 12:05 bar. STS on HTF was oversold, then on LTF we got WMA & SMA crossover at 12:05 triggering the long trade. ISL is far (below day's low) around 4836. I prefer to move the stop to just below the 12:05 bar as it is a short-term support now.
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Post: #123 Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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NF at 34 EMA on HTF and 89 EMA on LTF....watchout...keep close stops...since we do not have close swing lows on LTF one can probably keep TSLs just below 15 min bar lows (current or previous one....based on how much profit you want to let go). Above these hurdles we test BULL-R1 which is a major resistance.
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Post: #124 Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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STS on HTF now OB, NF nearing BULL-R1. Tighten stops as I said before, we are nearing bearish reversal area....just watch, not time to react yet. Just be aware...
Today is expiry day, we have two very good trades so it would be a good idea to play safe from now on as it gets tricky from here until market closes. Grab & protect profits.
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Post: #125 Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Dear all
Today's trade are discussed in details by ST in thread
Still if anybody is having any doubt...you know whom is to be looked up on
New rule addition :
For regular trade :- we wait for CCI to retrace in LTF i.e. CCI cross +100 and goes below 0..however this may take longer time addition to this if candle is run way candle/ market is in strong trend then we will miss the right entry... (I think this trick of early entry one should take after getting complete hold of MTM system..or simply go by rules...it is not the end of world.. today was the first case... And I want mkt to do all these so we will get the best out of MTM
I was not knowing this .. experience will teach..
II Rule : Importance of I chart levels along with keyEMA 34, 89 for profit booking or trailing SL
: STji - Noted your illustration and timely guidance
Thanks once again , Happy trading
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Post: #126 Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Dear STji,
Thanks for those links
My first try..editing and drawing will try in next chart
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Post: #127 Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, won't be posting the chart today. If anybody has any doubts please let me know and I will try and post the chart tomm.
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Post: #128 Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:10 am Post subject: |
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There were two possible entries today, one regular and one early optional entry I talked about yesterday.
First, STS on HTF was OS yesterday at mkt close and we did not gap up/down today so STS OS could be considered for reversal. On LTF WMA crossed above LTF at close of 9:25 bar. This was the long reversal trigger. The ISL for long is abound 4839 just below the swing low.
Second, on HTF the trend turned bullish after close of 9:45 bar. Swing high (also today's high) was broken on LTF at close of 10:00 bar. This was the early entry. This is just for indicating it...avoid trading this for now until we discuss it in detail later.
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Post: #129 Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:40 am Post subject: |
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SwingTrader wrote: | There were two possible entries today, one regular and one early optional entry I talked about yesterday.
First, STS on HTF was OS yesterday at mkt close and we did not gap up/down today so STS OS could be considered for reversal. On LTF WMA crossed above LTF at close of 9:25 bar. This was the long reversal trigger. The ISL for long is abound 4839 just below the swing low.
Second, on HTF the trend turned bullish after close of 9:45 bar. Swing high (also today's high) was broken on LTF at close of 10:00 bar. This was the early entry. This is just for indicating it...avoid trading this for now until we discuss it in detail later. |
Hyi ST sir,
how do you calculate this swing low/high ?? can you please explain it with the help of a chart ?
i think it is the experience of seeing charts for the last so many years --- or there are some rules for it as well ??
regards,
varun
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Post: #130 Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:46 am Post subject: |
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Dear Stji,
How much pt one should consider for GAP Up/down opening..
STS was Os..due to y'days experience did not long at LTF based on + cross over of WMA and SMA..
However the y'days short trade is still fresh in mind ...so took long and booked for 30 pts
Thanks
JJM
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Post: #131 Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:56 am Post subject: |
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varun_alld wrote: | SwingTrader wrote: | There were two possible entries today, one regular and one early optional entry I talked about yesterday.
First, STS on HTF was OS yesterday at mkt close and we did not gap up/down today so STS OS could be considered for reversal. On LTF WMA crossed above LTF at close of 9:25 bar. This was the long reversal trigger. The ISL for long is abound 4839 just below the swing low.
Second, on HTF the trend turned bullish after close of 9:45 bar. Swing high (also today's high) was broken on LTF at close of 10:00 bar. This was the early entry. This is just for indicating it...avoid trading this for now until we discuss it in detail later. |
Hyi ST sir,
how do you calculate this swing low/high ?? can you please explain it with the help of a chart ?
i think it is the experience of seeing charts for the last so many years --- or there are some rules for it as well ??
regards,
varun |
No fancy rules for swing high/low. Simple...
Swing high is a three bar pattern where the middle bar's high is greater than the highs of the bar immediately before & after this bar.
Swing low is a three bar pattern where the middle bar's low is lower than the lows of the bar immediately before & after this bar.
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Post: #132 Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:59 am Post subject: |
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jjm wrote: | Dear Stji,
How much pt one should consider for GAP Up/down opening..
STS was Os..due to y'days experience did not long at LTF based on + cross over of WMA and SMA..
However the y'days short trade is still fresh in mind ...so took long and booked for 30 pts
Thanks
JJM |
Difficult to put this in terms of points. Visually if I see a significant gap (at current levels maybe 50 pts and above) I avoid an reversal entry based on STS OB/OS.
The significance of the gap will depend on the current market volatility...so difficult to put this in points.
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Post: #133 Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:59 am Post subject: |
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jjm wrote: | Dear Stji,
How much pt one should consider for GAP Up/down opening..
STS was Os..due to y'days experience did not long at LTF based on + cross over of WMA and SMA..
However the y'days short trade is still fresh in mind ...so took long and booked for 30 pts
Thanks
JJM |
hyi jjm,
can you please tell me the time of the candle on LTF from where you went long and the reason for your exit on + 30 points
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varun
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Post: #134 Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:01 am Post subject: |
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Looking for long entry in LTF ..bar yet to close above WMA and SMA
LOC @ 50 Sl for this will be just below recent swing low
STji will this be right as per rules..CCI went below - 100 and crossed 0
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Post: #135 Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:07 am Post subject: |
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jjm wrote: | Looking for long entry in LTF ..bar yet to close above WMA and SMA
LOC @ 50 Sl for this will be just below recent swing low
STji will this be right as per rules..CCI went below - 100 and crossed 0
Regards,
JJM |
Yeah...this is fine.
After almost two hours we are still around the open...sideways...
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