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MY FAILED WOLVE WAVE SET-UP - ANY TF
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chetan83
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Post: #1   PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:39 pm    Post subject: MY FAILED WOLVE WAVE SET-UP - ANY TF Reply with quote

Just starting Failed Wolve Wave set-up, which by any mean was found to be correct but, SL was meet. This thread is applicable for all TF's

Unluckily, I traded JSWSTEEL 10 min TF - WW, Sell at 755, SL - 757, for 745.
SL was taken at 757 and JSWSTEEL rallied to new intra high of 775, almost Rs.20 from my short positions or Rs.18 from SL point.
Time to rethink whether we can go long on such cases ??? Rolling Eyes

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Chetan Kumar.



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Post: #2   PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't worry chetan, it will come one day! Smile
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Post: #3   PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:00 pm    Post subject: hi chetan Reply with quote

hi chetan,

nice thread to start.This will give us a chance to analyse our trades failed.Nice move man.Wish everyone interested GENUINELY in WW's will participate in this thread

vishy
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Post: #4   PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,
i cud see it this way.
kindly clarify whats wrong in it ?
rgds



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Post: #5   PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

singh.ravee wrote:
hi,
i cud see it this way.
kindly clarify whats wrong in it ?
rgds


Singh praaji....The way you had drawn is not bullish set up. Bullish set up can be obtained in falling channel.
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Post: #6   PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great initiative Chetan bhai.....
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chetan83
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Post: #7   PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

singh.ravee wrote:
hi,
i cud see it this way.
kindly clarify whats wrong in it ?
rgds


Hi ravee paji,

I saw the bearish WW as below figure, where point 1 came in up and 2 in down, yours is opposite.

Chetan.



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Post: #8   PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:27 pm    Post subject: Re: hi chetan Reply with quote

vishyvaranasi wrote:
hi chetan,

nice thread to start.This will give us a chance to analyse our trades failed.Nice move man.Wish everyone interested GENUINELY in WW's will participate in this thread

vishy


Hi Vishy/Arjun,

This initiative is from the great pain we take to identify a pattern in so many TF's/searching stocks.........but we fail in our endevours, at least......by any mean IF if are trading, SORRY TRADED Smile , a wrong set-up, then we can get a rectification here......and all can learn....
Thanks to Rk, Vinay, Ravee Paji, Sumesh, adsingh, prst, chandru, amitkbaid and you people (sorry, if i missed any name - cant find other names beyond last 6 WW page Very Happy )

Hope to learn more, so please contribute.
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Post: #9   PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

one slight correction. Correct WWs are found in wedges and not channels. That's how Wolfe discovered them
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Post: #10   PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Dilemma here is how we decide the overshoot length. The overshoot can be of varied length. Sometimes after certain overshoot a COG happens and again reverse and go up further to come back and meet the targets down side, in such cases if we go long we may have to bite the SL twice.

Quite often I found double tops and double bottoms at point 5. If at all we need to go long/short at failed ww’s we need to have some other method/indicator which can confirm our action. Simply a failed ww may not be suffice for this.


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Post: #11   PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unluckily, I traded JSWSTEEL 10 min TF - WW, Sell at 755, SL - 757, for 745.
SL was taken at 757 and JSWSTEEL rallied to new intra high of 775, almost Rs.20 from my short positions or Rs.18 from SL point.


That’s the discipline a trader needs to have. Well done Chetan for containing a possible 20 points loss for just to 2.
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Post: #12   PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have one more suggestion for day trading with ww in lower time frames. Check the advance decline ratio and overall advances are more than declines take up only long trades and vice versa. There could be exceptions like if a scrip which is in long term uptrend and forms a +ww during correction may outperform the market and the reverse is also true.

It’s a general guide line which may help in improving success rate. So, every time before you trade a ww in LTF check the market breadth. Laughing
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Post: #13   PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rk_a2003 wrote:
I have one more suggestion for day trading with ww in lower time frames. Check the advance decline ratio and overall advances are more than declines take up only long trades and vice versa. There could be exceptions like if a scrip which is in long term uptrend and forms a +ww during correction may outperform the market and the reverse is also true.

It’s a general guide line which may help in improving success rate. So, every time before you trade a ww in LTF check the market breadth. Laughing


Hi Rk,

where to check this data in real time from??
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Post: #14   PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chetan83 wrote:
rk_a2003 wrote:
I have one more suggestion for day trading with ww in lower time frames. Check the advance decline ratio and overall advances are more than declines take up only long trades and vice versa. There could be exceptions like if a scrip which is in long term uptrend and forms a +ww during correction may outperform the market and the reverse is also true.

It’s a general guide line which may help in improving success rate. So, every time before you trade a ww in LTF check the market breadth. Laughing


Hi Rk,

where to check this data in real time from??


I check it from a website.I think it's aavailable on nse website in the form of heat map,not very sure.

May be Vinay can help in this regard.
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Post: #15   PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rk_a2003 wrote:
chetan83 wrote:
rk_a2003 wrote:
I have one more suggestion for day trading with ww in lower time frames. Check the advance decline ratio and overall advances are more than declines take up only long trades and vice versa. There could be exceptions like if a scrip which is in long term uptrend and forms a +ww during correction may outperform the market and the reverse is also true.

It’s a general guide line which may help in improving success rate. So, every time before you trade a ww in LTF check the market breadth. Laughing


Hi Rk,

where to check this data in real time from??


I check it from a website.I think it's aavailable on nse website in the form of heat map,not very sure.

May be Vinay can help in this regard.



NSE website--Livemarket--Overall Advances/Declines.
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