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freedom White Belt
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Post: #31 Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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Rahulsharmaat wrote: | ALL RISE.
You will rise, as Anna says watch numbers, no EMA,SMA or any band,stochastic, nothing just numbers.
My story- out with MBA, every organization sucks, i started trading , first day lost Rs 55,000 in Parsvnath.
Disbanded from home, i used to watch numbers & used to tell me there is something that number says, for 3 yrs just watched numbers & i broke into, just numbers & when Anna says just numbers, he is true.
watch numbers bro.
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i am trying to understand But please explain me -- todays No 5555---5587--5612
How Do i Use them--- it went to 5609-- now if i short there-- and it go to 5630-- what is SL-- now i shorted at 5605 Suppose-- and it went till 5580-- should i cover it here or at 5587--- how do i use |
Rahul, Honestly, i shouldn't be posting this & please forgive me everyone, I am a positional trader, trade just once in a month, i trade for just 10% compounding annually, it means 300% yearly on what i invest, i have prove to support that, exactly no gimmick , u take out to any year. But the problem is if i tell my trading numbers, i am finished. At best what i can say whether this month is buy or sell , i play in F&O-NIFTY-PUT & CALL.
This month was sell, see u can tell me that everyone knows that but u ask me on the 1st day of every month & see results by urself, i will let u know, what to do?
I am not a day trader, i have lost huge.
i saw someone posting the excel sheet for day trading, i have attached that.
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trades4girish White Belt
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Post: #32 Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:44 pm Post subject: My Story |
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My Story,
Nice to see ourselves confessing... A nice topic buddy AROMAL.
But Aromal, My Journey would have been better. Let it be, atleast in this world I got a place for confessing my Trading Crimes.
I started my journey in this Royal Casino (Stock Market) when one of my friend for his sales target opened my Demat Account in Sharekhan on the pretext of offering me a free account opening somewhere in between 2003 - 2004.
For first year I had taken some penny stock which the same friend recommending that this will go so much up that with an investment of 10000 (0.40*25000) will fetch me a years salary.. I was happy coz I had just joined a company with a mere salary of Rs 5555/- after diploma. For next 1 year I used to daily see the stock which was going down & down and afterwards got bored to see it daily.. somewhere around 18mnths that stock came into the news channel and I saw a rate of Rs 3/-. Immediately I called my friend and asked him to tell me what should i do? for which I got a reply from him that he is no more in stock market as he gave the same recomendation to all other clients and all of them in a hurry made loss of crores of rupees. In between I had faced my first loss in Stock Mkt as the AMC Cost of 750/- charged to me eventhough i had not used my account.
But I was happy that I had got 75000/- and took somewhere around 100000/- from my savings (hard earned money - working for 16hrs a day for ot) and started day trading from mid of 2005. Till that day I was happy and my sad day started with day trading from this mid 2005. every day a new loss and new loss. but i maintained a speed in losing all the money till 2007.
I was out of mkt and out of brains after checking the accounts of loss i made in day trading. I completely stopped trading till 2008 and just had some delivery shares whose valuation was not more than 7600/- which gradually i pulled out from my account for enjoying a party .. which i enjoyed more than that loss.
But as it is said in hindi " hara hua juagari, kahin se bhi paisa lata hai ek aur satta jitne ke khawab se" same i did and in end of 2008 i added Rs 100000/- after swiping 2 credit cards for cash with an per annum interest of 40%. I subscribed for the online call services checked with my (biggest enemies) RM Friends and did a lot of things spent more than Rs 15000/- in all this just to get good calls .... but the fate was written ... and it was a Loss of Rs 85000/- in just 2 mnths.
I completely stopped trading for next 1 to 1.5year... but then I got to know TA and continued with learning with the skills, systems, strategies, money management, risk management, most imp thing STOP LOSS. In between came to know bout Icharts forum, and some other free resources. chatted with a lot of people for a long time in Icharts as well as other places analysed those people that they are genuine or same as my RM Friends and broker's, silently read all the forum updates of Icharts. and found out some really good and helping people making me understand a lot of in and out things for TA. Again in start of 2010 started with paper trading and back testing of strategies and systems. found out some good things ... again loaded Rs 2,00,000/- in my trading account and started working with TA and not with emotions. from that time till date made a handsome recovery of 5 lac to 6 lac other than my 2 lac n still going on.
Journey continues ...
Special thanks to my Icharts Guide's& Icharts Team :
Spec's Strategy :: wonderfully working for multiplying my account fourfold with some money management skills
Marne Vivek Sir & Mayur Sir :: provided me with timely support for suggesting some good ebooks of stock mkt.
AROMAL :: As he said in his story a great friend but for me he was the first with whom i started sharing my trades and he helped me to get some very good knowledge and one of my mentor for helping me scan stocks for trade.
JJM ji :: we both from same place .. one of i have seen ..came late in mkts but a very good learner and executioner (I dont know bout his past but we met personally in last rainy days of mumbai, acc to my knowledge found out he was new in mkt .. but now getting expert in chart's and systems)
PT Sir, Kamal Sir :: helping in getting all queries solved and everytime helping me in clearing all the data in charts whenever i had asked them as i like to see my charts very clean.
ST SIR :: gave a wonderful teaching of trading on levels Icharts published .. helped me to trade both sides.
Veeru Sir :: I never saw or met a person like this, shrewed in talks about mind in trading, levels we cant even think of, but words will hit and make u think about truths in mkt.
All the ichartians .... helping me as well as each other's for the healthy well being of the trading accounts.
So all my friends "WELCOME TO ROYAL CASINO" a never ending journey........
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Rahulsharmaat Black Belt
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Post: #33 Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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why u will be finished if u tell numbers ??
it will be help full for others ...
same way if i have thought-- i wont have posted 3--34 ema-- results 5 years back tested also--
i saw the sheet-- but what actually we have to do ??
how u posted buy n sell in some stocks ????
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freedom White Belt
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Post: #34 Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:09 am Post subject: |
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Rahulsharmaat wrote: | why u will be finished if u tell numbers ??
it will be help full for others ...
same way if i have thought-- i wont have posted 3--34 ema-- results 5 years back tested also--
i saw the sheet-- but what actually we have to do ??
how u posted buy n sell in some stocks ???? |
Rahul simple, see if i have been greedy than i have been rich by this time but i have gone through those days , where a single roti was like gold to me, i used to eat after 3 days a single roti, have u seen that life.
Even now people whom i had helped, back stabbed me on every occasion.
Give me ur mail id, will sent u.
regarding the excel sheet, when the market opens , it says buy & sell , u do it, i have not traded yet, i just saw posted in icharts.
open=low=buy.
open=high=sell
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aromal White Belt
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Post: #35 Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:59 am Post subject: Re: My Story |
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trades4girish wrote: | My Story,
Nice to see ourselves confessing... A nice topic buddy AROMAL.
But Aromal, My Journey would have been better. Let it be, atleast in this world I got a place for confessing my Trading Crimes.
I started my journey in this Royal Casino (Stock Market) when one of my friend for his sales target opened my Demat Account in Sharekhan on the pretext of offering me a free account opening somewhere in between 2003 - 2004.
For first year I had taken some penny stock which the same friend recommending that this will go so much up that with an investment of 10000 (0.40*25000) will fetch me a years salary.. I was happy coz I had just joined a company with a mere salary of Rs 5555/- after diploma. For next 1 year I used to daily see the stock which was going down & down and afterwards got bored to see it daily.. somewhere around 18mnths that stock came into the news channel and I saw a rate of Rs 3/-. Immediately I called my friend and asked him to tell me what should i do? for which I got a reply from him that he is no more in stock market as he gave the same recomendation to all other clients and all of them in a hurry made loss of crores of rupees. In between I had faced my first loss in Stock Mkt as the AMC Cost of 750/- charged to me eventhough i had not used my account.
But I was happy that I had got 75000/- and took somewhere around 100000/- from my savings (hard earned money - working for 16hrs a day for ot) and started day trading from mid of 2005. Till that day I was happy and my sad day started with day trading from this mid 2005. every day a new loss and new loss. but i maintained a speed in losing all the money till 2007.
I was out of mkt and out of brains after checking the accounts of loss i made in day trading. I completely stopped trading till 2008 and just had some delivery shares whose valuation was not more than 7600/- which gradually i pulled out from my account for enjoying a party .. which i enjoyed more than that loss.
But as it is said in hindi " hara hua juagari, kahin se bhi paisa lata hai ek aur satta jitne ke khawab se" same i did and in end of 2008 i added Rs 100000/- after swiping 2 credit cards for cash with an per annum interest of 40%. I subscribed for the online call services checked with my (biggest enemies) RM Friends and did a lot of things spent more than Rs 15000/- in all this just to get good calls .... but the fate was written ... and it was a Loss of Rs 85000/- in just 2 mnths.
I completely stopped trading for next 1 to 1.5year... but then I got to know TA and continued with learning with the skills, systems, strategies, money management, risk management, most imp thing STOP LOSS. In between came to know bout Icharts forum, and some other free resources. chatted with a lot of people for a long time in Icharts as well as other places analysed those people that they are genuine or same as my RM Friends and broker's, silently read all the forum updates of Icharts. and found out some really good and helping people making me understand a lot of in and out things for TA. Again in start of 2010 started with paper trading and back testing of strategies and systems. found out some good things ... again loaded Rs 2,00,000/- in my trading account and started working with TA and not with emotions. from that time till date made a handsome recovery of 5 lac to 6 lac other than my 2 lac n still going on.
Journey continues ...
Special thanks to my Icharts Guide's& Icharts Team :
Spec's Strategy :: wonderfully working for multiplying my account fourfold with some money management skills
Marne Vivek Sir & Mayur Sir :: provided me with timely support for suggesting some good ebooks of stock mkt.
AROMAL :: As he said in his story a great friend but for me he was the first with whom i started sharing my trades and he helped me to get some very good knowledge and one of my mentor for helping me scan stocks for trade.
JJM ji :: we both from same place .. one of i have seen ..came late in mkts but a very good learner and executioner (I dont know bout his past but we met personally in last rainy days of mumbai, acc to my knowledge found out he was new in mkt .. but now getting expert in chart's and systems)
PT Sir, Kamal Sir :: helping in getting all queries solved and everytime helping me in clearing all the data in charts whenever i had asked them as i like to see my charts very clean.
ST SIR :: gave a wonderful teaching of trading on levels Icharts published .. helped me to trade both sides.
Veeru Sir :: I never saw or met a person like this, shrewed in talks about mind in trading, levels we cant even think of, but words will hit and make u think about truths in mkt.
All the ichartians .... helping me as well as each other's for the healthy well being of the trading accounts.
So all my friends "WELCOME TO ROYAL CASINO" a never ending journey........ |
Quote: | hello girish, very happy seeing your post......... keep on learning every day just like u did all these years..... |
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Rahulsharmaat Black Belt
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Post: #36 Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:08 am Post subject: |
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Rahul simple, see if i have been greedy than i have been rich by this time but i have gone through those days , where a single roti was like gold to me, i used to eat after 3 days a single roti, have u seen that life.
Even now people whom i had helped, back stabbed me on every occasion.
Give me ur mail id, will sent u.
regarding the excel sheet, when the market opens , it says buy & sell , u do it, i have not traded yet, i just saw posted in icharts.
open=low=buy.
open=high=sell
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So --open-- high-- same---- Short--
Open-- low-- same--- Buy
will this excel work automatic-- or need to update
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What life i saw--i wont crush my biggest enemy to have that-- thats what i can say -- it was hell
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vinst Black Belt
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Post: #37 Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:18 am Post subject: |
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freedom wrote: | Rahulsharmaat wrote: | why u will be finished if u tell numbers ??
it will be help full for others ...
same way if i have thought-- i wont have posted 3--34 ema-- results 5 years back tested also--
i saw the sheet-- but what actually we have to do ??
how u posted buy n sell in some stocks ???? |
Rahul simple, see if i have been greedy than i have been rich by this time but i have gone through those days , where a single roti was like gold to me, i used to eat after 3 days a single roti, have u seen that life.
Even now people whom i had helped, back stabbed me on every occasion.
Give me ur mail id, will sent u.
regarding the excel sheet, when the market opens , it says buy & sell , u do it, i have not traded yet, i just saw posted in icharts.
open=low=buy.
open=high=sell |
freedom,
I have been wanting to do your kind of trading but alas! I haven't got any method to do that. I am doing short term tradiing which is very effort-intensive and demands too much time during the day.
I'd be obliged if i could get your way of finding out , about NF only, buy/sell bias for several days to come (monthly , as u mentioned). How to send my email address to you?
regards
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Rahulsharmaat Black Belt
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Post: #38 Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:27 am Post subject: |
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that u need to ask moderators here --if they allow
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freedom White Belt
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Post: #39 Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:30 am Post subject: |
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Rahulsharmaat wrote: | Rahul simple, see if i have been greedy than i have been rich by this time but i have gone through those days , where a single roti was like gold to me, i used to eat after 3 days a single roti, have u seen that life.
Even now people whom i had helped, back stabbed me on every occasion.
Give me ur mail id, will sent u.
regarding the excel sheet, when the market opens , it says buy & sell , u do it, i have not traded yet, i just saw posted in icharts.
open=low=buy.
open=high=sell
===============================================
So --open-- high-- same---- Short--
Open-- low-- same--- Buy
will this excel work automatic-- or need to update
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What life i saw--i wont crush my biggest enemy to have that-- thats what i can say -- it was hell |
Rahul, i am not comparing, every one in this earth stands tall, everyone have their bit of life.
Regarding Excel,as u open it , it asks for u to enable macro, just do that, its automated.
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freedom White Belt
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Post: #40 Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:34 am Post subject: |
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vinst wrote: | freedom wrote: | Rahulsharmaat wrote: | why u will be finished if u tell numbers ??
it will be help full for others ...
same way if i have thought-- i wont have posted 3--34 ema-- results 5 years back tested also--
i saw the sheet-- but what actually we have to do ??
how u posted buy n sell in some stocks ???? |
Rahul simple, see if i have been greedy than i have been rich by this time but i have gone through those days , where a single roti was like gold to me, i used to eat after 3 days a single roti, have u seen that life.
Even now people whom i had helped, back stabbed me on every occasion.
Give me ur mail id, will sent u.
regarding the excel sheet, when the market opens , it says buy & sell , u do it, i have not traded yet, i just saw posted in icharts.
open=low=buy.
open=high=sell |
freedom,
I have been wanting to do your kind of trading but alas! I haven't got any method to do that. I am doing short term tradiing which is very effort-intensive and demands too much time during the day.
I'd be obliged if i could get your way of finding out , about NF only, buy/sell bias for several days to come (monthly , as u mentioned). How to send my email address to you?
regards |
Hi Vinst.
Hope u r working good & great.
Certainly on 1st of aug, will let u know.
Regarding email id sharing, why don't u attach a notepad with ur mail id written in it.
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aromal White Belt
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Post: #41 Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:38 am Post subject: |
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freedom wrote: | Rahulsharmaat wrote: | Rahul simple, see if i have been greedy than i have been rich by this time but i have gone through those days , where a single roti was like gold to me, i used to eat after 3 days a single roti, have u seen that life.
Even now people whom i had helped, back stabbed me on every occasion.
Give me ur mail id, will sent u.
regarding the excel sheet, when the market opens , it says buy & sell , u do it, i have not traded yet, i just saw posted in icharts.
open=low=buy.
open=high=sell
===============================================
So --open-- high-- same---- Short--
Open-- low-- same--- Buy
will this excel work automatic-- or need to update
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What life i saw--i wont crush my biggest enemy to have that-- thats what i can say -- it was hell |
Rahul, i am not comparing, every one in this earth stands tall, everyone have their bit of life.
Regarding Excel,as u open it , it asks for u to enable macro, just do that, its automated. | Quote: | friends u get every thing automatically if u have strong desire..... thats the power of mind....traders should practice yoga and they should know how to relax in life.... never quarrel with any one.... when u make a person angry, he will become the most ugly person in the world for u................... but IF U MAKE A PERSON HAPPY , HE WILL BECOME THE BEST PERSON TO INTERACT AND SPENT TIME WITH...... SPREAD HAPPINESS ALWAYS....... | aromal
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freedom White Belt
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Post: #42 Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:42 am Post subject: |
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aromal wrote: | freedom wrote: | Rahulsharmaat wrote: | Rahul simple, see if i have been greedy than i have been rich by this time but i have gone through those days , where a single roti was like gold to me, i used to eat after 3 days a single roti, have u seen that life.
Even now people whom i had helped, back stabbed me on every occasion.
Give me ur mail id, will sent u.
regarding the excel sheet, when the market opens , it says buy & sell , u do it, i have not traded yet, i just saw posted in icharts.
open=low=buy.
open=high=sell
===============================================
So --open-- high-- same---- Short--
Open-- low-- same--- Buy
will this excel work automatic-- or need to update
===============================================
What life i saw--i wont crush my biggest enemy to have that-- thats what i can say -- it was hell |
Rahul, i am not comparing, every one in this earth stands tall, everyone have their bit of life.
Regarding Excel,as u open it , it asks for u to enable macro, just do that, its automated. | Quote: | friends u get every thing automatically if u have strong desire..... thats the power of mind....traders should practice yoga and they should know how to relax in life.... never quarrel with any one.... when u make a person angry, he will become the most ugly person in the world for u................... but IF U MAKE A PERSON HAPPY , HE WILL BECOME THE BEST PERSON TO INTERACT AND SPENT TIME WITH...... SPREAD HAPPINESS ALWAYS....... | aromal |
Aromal, can u make everyone happy in this earth.
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aromal White Belt
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Post: #43 Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:57 am Post subject: |
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freedom wrote: | aromal wrote: | freedom wrote: | Rahulsharmaat wrote: | Rahul simple, see if i have been greedy than i have been rich by this time but i have gone through those days , where a single roti was like gold to me, i used to eat after 3 days a single roti, have u seen that life.
Even now people whom i had helped, back stabbed me on every occasion.
Give me ur mail id, will sent u.
regarding the excel sheet, when the market opens , it says buy & sell , u do it, i have not traded yet, i just saw posted in icharts.
open=low=buy.
open=high=sell
===============================================
So --open-- high-- same---- Short--
Open-- low-- same--- Buy
will this excel work automatic-- or need to update
===============================================
What life i saw--i wont crush my biggest enemy to have that-- thats what i can say -- it was hell |
Rahul, i am not comparing, every one in this earth stands tall, everyone have their bit of life.
Regarding Excel,as u open it , it asks for u to enable macro, just do that, its automated. | Quote: | friends u get every thing automatically if u have strong desire..... thats the power of mind....traders should practice yoga and they should know how to relax in life.... never quarrel with any one.... when u make a person angry, he will become the most ugly person in the world for u................... but IF U MAKE A PERSON HAPPY , HE WILL BECOME THE BEST PERSON TO INTERACT AND SPENT TIME WITH...... SPREAD HAPPINESS ALWAYS....... | aromal |
Aromal, can u make everyone happy in this earth. | hi freedom: basically people treat as differently, some think aromal is good, some thing aromal is baad, some think aromal is entertainer, some think he is awaste fellow...... see this all depend on others...... how they think, how they see us in the present time....... we change, they change every thing change...... we cannot make all happy....... but let them go in their own way....... freedom,, in my life all my friends started to say am a waste, am a failure in life....... i never felt agry..... they started avoiding me .... i felt saad...... i recovered from all..... freedom, please i am not teaching , just saying yaa sharing my ideas...... sorry yaar
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Post: #44 Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:51 am Post subject: |
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girish my words are hurting u? i never say sorry... u have to improve now.... further..... [ many times i am very harsh....]
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freedom White Belt
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Post: #45 Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:03 am Post subject: |
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aromal wrote: | freedom wrote: | aromal wrote: | freedom wrote: | Rahulsharmaat wrote: | Rahul simple, see if i have been greedy than i have been rich by this time but i have gone through those days , where a single roti was like gold to me, i used to eat after 3 days a single roti, have u seen that life.
Even now people whom i had helped, back stabbed me on every occasion.
Give me ur mail id, will sent u.
regarding the excel sheet, when the market opens , it says buy & sell , u do it, i have not traded yet, i just saw posted in icharts.
open=low=buy.
open=high=sell
===============================================
So --open-- high-- same---- Short--
Open-- low-- same--- Buy
will this excel work automatic-- or need to update
===============================================
What life i saw--i wont crush my biggest enemy to have that-- thats what i can say -- it was hell |
Rahul, i am not comparing, every one in this earth stands tall, everyone have their bit of life.
Regarding Excel,as u open it , it asks for u to enable macro, just do that, its automated. | Quote: | friends u get every thing automatically if u have strong desire..... thats the power of mind....traders should practice yoga and they should know how to relax in life.... never quarrel with any one.... when u make a person angry, he will become the most ugly person in the world for u................... but IF U MAKE A PERSON HAPPY , HE WILL BECOME THE BEST PERSON TO INTERACT AND SPENT TIME WITH...... SPREAD HAPPINESS ALWAYS....... | aromal |
Aromal, can u make everyone happy in this earth. | hi freedom: basically people treat as differently, some think aromal is good, some thing aromal is baad, some think aromal is entertainer, some think he is awaste fellow...... see this all depend on others...... how they think, how they see us in the present time....... we change, they change every thing change...... we cannot make all happy....... but let them go in their own way....... freedom,, in my life all my friends started to say am a waste, am a failure in life....... i never felt agry..... they started avoiding me .... i felt saad...... i recovered from all..... freedom, please i am not teaching , just saying yaa sharing my ideas...... sorry yaar |
Aromal, u r true, certain & sure. Belive me, everyone is good but the 1st stands being ME, after that.
buddy, we are here for good & we will do good, regardless of anything.
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