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smartcancerian
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Post: #76   PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nifty hourly chart..hope my markings are correct..
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Post: #77   PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Long to be initiated above 6312..bullish rejection of 15tf..(but is demanding a large SL)..will have to decide the risk..& enter..
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Post: #78   PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trying low risk entry of 5tf bullish rejection..long will be @ 6297..
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Post: #79   PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

smartcancerian wrote:
Trying low risk entry of 5tf bullish rejection..long will be @ 6297..

Now set up buy is at 6291..diacy..but can't miss any signal..let it b losing trade...testing time..ranges are always difficult to trade..
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Post: #80   PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Triggered..SL is 6265..
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Post: #81   PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exiting the position in futures @ 6315 at 3.28 pm..Event on monday, don't want to take undue risk...
Net pts (trade:1) = -19 ; cumulative = -19
Net pts (trade:2) = -22 ; cumulative = -41
Net pts (trade:3) = 46 ; cumulative = 5
Net pts (trade:4) = 3 ; cumulative = 8
Net pts (trade:5) = -12 ; cumulative = -4
Net pts (trade:6) = -29 ; cumulative = -33
Net pts (trade:7) = 7 ; cumulative = -26
Net pts (trade:8 ) = 24 ; cumulative = -2
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Post: #82   PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy trade @ 6377..SL 6342..valid if triggers till 3.05 pm
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Post: #83   PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy triggered @ 6378 (slippage)..trade didnt move in favour till 3.28pm..hence exiting @ 6368
Net pts (trade:1) = -19 ; cumulative = -19
Net pts (trade:2) = -22 ; cumulative = -41
Net pts (trade:3) = 46 ; cumulative = 5
Net pts (trade:4) = 3 ; cumulative = 8
Net pts (trade:5) = -12 ; cumulative = -4
Net pts (trade:6) = -29 ; cumulative = -33
Net pts (trade:7) = 7 ; cumulative = -26
Net pts (trade:8 ) = 24 ; cumulative = -2
Net pts (trade:9 ) = -10 ; cumulative = -12
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Post: #84   PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi smart,

trading very tough this month so far.......
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Post: #85   PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gaps ups and down thralling the more profitable trades....also MIND entering picture...since for eg: system entered long at 6297 but was squared at 6312 before the next days's gap up....."even though that day's pattern was good".....

so the system for me i can see this is very good..........and even with emotions entering it will give a "big proftiable trade"...that is what the system is about...
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Post: #86   PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

manojkr78 wrote:
hi smart,

trading very tough this month so far.......


amitagg wrote:
gaps ups and down thralling the more profitable trades....also MIND entering picture...since for eg: system entered long at 6297 but was squared at 6312 before the next days's gap up....."even though that day's pattern was good".....

so the system for me i can see this is very good..........and even with emotions entering it will give a "big proftiable trade"...that is what the system is about...


Hi manoj, yes you are right, trading has been very tough this month & thanx amitagg for giving your insight on the method...What I have learned from my seniors is to keep SL to the bare minimum & try for healthy RR ratio..If i had kept my long @ 6290 on friday, it would have given me neat 150-160 points at the opening rate on 9 dec but the reverse could have destroyed my ledger thats why i didnt carry, anyway there will be a more safe trade to carry next time,so its trade off..
Sometimes, I console myself by comparing my net pts with pts made some good professional trader- Sha..(not giving full name).. Very Happy
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Post: #87   PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good but dont compare yourself with others...Sha and others......

few points -

i) as a trader, i understand that most would have lost money trading in initial years, and hence "gaining the perspective of keeping losses small" is very good and next transition scale for a trader....

ii) many dont post their losing trades or who they trade....what is posted are levels and, believe me "having direction right and having right call" is NOT the "same think as being in profits"......even if u see my thread, i often and most often in fact have right directional calls [and even right timing... with many mistakes also where just as you do, i have starting taking closer stops]

iii) on RR, i posted in Nakum's thread.....for me 1:1 is working well...even yesterday on my DLF trade where volumes were heavy, it worked and had i wanted 1.5:1 or more, it would have been wrong..... [again it depends on each trader ....this is also one area of improvement in sense that 1.5 is ideal but currently since i am not a professional.....i have not learnt or mastered 1.5:1 trading for day trades.....

nice you post your trades and method....really very nice

[one more thing....i thing Sha(???) often has "countertrend trades" and for me, these cannot be profitable for longer term.....just a wild guess since i am a simple trader having learnt in markets and started believing markets can pay us [just simple things to be done] rather than us paying markets......

i would also share one thought - i have learnt where market turns, not to lose there [so i dint lose when market fell from 6200 to 6000, i didnt lose when market broke 6250 to 6400+ and i didnt lose when market have fallen 100+ points from top,,,,then your leveraged trades can give you grear profits if you are not stuck in a bad trade....

if you see yourself, you are doing just that....and pls continue with that.....

best of luck
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Post: #88   PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

USP is 60-70 points away( @ 6267), high made is around 150 pts away from current market price..we are into a bigger range, time for consolidation..the market has tendency to grind traders like us in such ranges..Contra move has started & confirmed as per my knowledge in lower tf (SSPS still in bullish mode)- it may be a trend for smaller timeframe but it may actually be pull back of hourly tf, lets see who dominates at last..keeping myself on sidelines...
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Post: #89   PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy triggered @ 6306..SL @ 6279..
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Post: #90   PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SL hit...@ 6276 (slippage.. Shocked )

Net pts (trade:1) = -19 ; cumulative = -19
Net pts (trade:2) = -22 ; cumulative = -41
Net pts (trade:3) = 46 ; cumulative = 5
Net pts (trade:4) = 3 ; cumulative = 8
Net pts (trade:5) = -12 ; cumulative = -4
Net pts (trade:6) = -29 ; cumulative = -33
Net pts (trade:7) = 7 ; cumulative = -26
Net pts (trade:8 ) = 24 ; cumulative = -2
Net pts (trade:9 ) = -10 ; cumulative = -12
Net pts (trade:10 ) = -30 ; cumulative = -42
Difficult month indeed..
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