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welgro Brown Belt
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Post: #151 Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:21 am Post subject: |
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welgro Brown Belt
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Post: #152 Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:40 am Post subject: |
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welgro Brown Belt
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Post: #153 Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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welgro Brown Belt
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Post: #154 Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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welgro Brown Belt
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Post: #155 Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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Nifty future exited at : 7786.60 ( loss : 84 points ) Nifty 7600 put exited at 78.50 ( loss : 31.50 )
Net loss : 115 points
Now holding 7700 call option ( carry this open position). |
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welgro Brown Belt
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Post: #156 Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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welgro Brown Belt
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Post: #157 Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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amitagg Black Belt
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Post: #158 Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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welgro wrote: |
Nifty future exited at : 7786.60 ( loss : 84 points ) Nifty 7600 put exited at 78.50 ( loss : 31.50 )
Net loss : 115 points
Now holding 7700 call option ( carry this open position). |
when yesterdays 8000 call was showing bullish to you...and 8100 being written with added OI...why the positioal short trade.... 7625 is all up for positional longs....may be now 7760 |
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welgro Brown Belt
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Post: #159 Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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amitagg wrote: | welgro wrote: |
Nifty future exited at : 7786.60 ( loss : 84 points ) Nifty 7600 put exited at 78.50 ( loss : 31.50 )
Net loss : 115 points
Now holding 7700 call option ( carry this open position). |
when yesterdays 8000 call was showing bullish to you...and 8100 being written with added OI...why the positioal short trade.... 7625 is all up for positional longs....may be now 7760 |
i cannot get you..kindly ask your doubts when you watch today's my all posts. |
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amitagg Black Belt
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Post: #160 Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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welgro wrote: | amitagg wrote: | welgro wrote: |
Nifty future exited at : 7786.60 ( loss : 84 points ) Nifty 7600 put exited at 78.50 ( loss : 31.50 )
Net loss : 115 points
Now holding 7700 call option ( carry this open position). |
when yesterdays 8000 call was showing bullish to you...and 8100 being written with added OI...why the positioal short trade.... 7625 is all up for positional longs....may be now 7760 |
i cannot get you..kindly ask your doubts when you watch today's my all posts. |
yes just want to understand whether option OI is really helping in planning the trade....was Option data suggesting bearishness today..... |
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welgro Brown Belt
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Post: #161 Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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OI was not a primary tool for take decisions. It’s a big supportive tool with following charts movements.
Today morning 10:21 i have expected 7676 level is short entry (BOF)
I have already prepared this short entry in my morning post itself (7.02 Am)
Well I shorted at 12.20 as well updated my future entry positions.
After my short entry nifty future made low 7683.00 (12.20 pm)
But the problem is lower time frame second swing low breaks with very low volume 7676.75 (I has fixed "something wrong" about down move)
Then I have updated (14:51) if stop loss hit, hold 7000 call option for recover hedge loss.
{When you see this update you have a one big doubt. Welgro, once you noted something going wrong in your position, then why you not exit and continually holding short.}
After a long experience I mentally prepared once I fix my entry and stop loss, whatever been happen follow levels. (My trade ends with loss but I can analyse next movement without stress) |
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mikky Green Belt
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Post: #162 Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Appreciate the honesty and clear analysis. This is the sign of seasoned trader.
Rarely seen your trades hitting stop loss.
Keep it up Welgro!!!
welgro wrote: | OI was not a primary tool for take decisions. It’s a big supportive tool with following charts movements.
Today morning 10:21 i have expected 7676 level is short entry (BOF)
I have already prepared this short entry in my morning post itself (7.02 Am)
Well I shorted at 12.20 as well updated my future entry positions.
After my short entry nifty future made low 7683.00 (12.20 pm)
But the problem is lower time frame second swing low breaks with very low volume 7676.75 (I has fixed "something wrong" about down move)
Then I have updated (14:51) if stop loss hit, hold 7000 call option for recover hedge loss.
{When you see this update you have a one big doubt. Welgro, once you noted something going wrong in your position, then why you not exit and continually holding short.}
After a long experience I mentally prepared once I fix my entry and stop loss, whatever been happen follow levels. (My trade ends with loss but I can analyse next movement without stress) |
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amitagg Black Belt
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Post: #163 Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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absolutely nothing better......
i) also learned that u can manage this "following level" mentally when ur position is managed and not over leveraged and entries have higher RR......
ii) in your case, since you plan entry immediate the "breakout" [ some like RR Sir as people call...i joined late..]...specifally remarked in Jt's thread that only on retrace of breakout mikky wrote: | ied to "breakout failure entry trade" also?
iii) .....infact greater losses are had in seeing a "breakout failure fail" then a "breakout fail"..........
[quote="mikky"]Appreciate the honesty and clear analysis. This is the sign of seasoned trader.
Rarely seen your trades hitting stop loss.
Keep it up Welgro!!!
welgro wrote: | OI was not a primary tool for take decisions. It’s a big supportive tool with following charts movements.
Today morning 10:21 i have expected 7676 level is short entry (BOF)
I have already prepared this short entry in my morning post itself (7.02 Am)
Well I shorted at 12.20 as well updated my future entry positions.
After my short entry nifty future made low 7683.00 (12.20 pm)
But the problem is lower time frame second swing low breaks with very low volume 7676.75 (I has fixed "something wrong" about down move)
Then I have updated (14:51) if stop loss hit, hold 7000 call option for recover hedge loss.
{When you see this update you have a one big doubt. Welgro, once you noted something going wrong in your position, then why you not exit and continually holding short.}
After a long experience I mentally prepared once I fix my entry and stop loss, whatever been happen follow levels. (My trade ends with loss but I can analyse next movement without stress) |
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welgro Brown Belt
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Post: #164 Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="amitagg"]absolutely nothing better......
i) also learned that u can manage this "following level" mentally when ur position is managed and not over leveraged and entries have higher RR......
ii) in your case, since you plan entry immediate the "breakout" [ some like RR Sir as people call...i joined late..]...specifally remarked in Jt's thread that only on retrace of breakout mikky wrote: | ied to "breakout failure entry trade" also?
iii) .....infact greater losses are had in seeing a "breakout failure fail" then a "breakout fail"..........
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Still i am not get any clear message in your update. |
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welgro Brown Belt
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Post: #165 Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Nifty's intraday range on union budget day
Highest +ve in % : IN 2001 budget day range is 67.65 trading ended that day at 4.13% gain.
Highest -ve in % : In 2009 budget day range is 346.10 trading ended that day at -6.21%. |
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