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NIFTY FUTURE AND OPTION my method |
Saaduu
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Post: #16  Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:27 am Post subject: |
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| Niftyman wrote: | | These are your real trades or paper trades. |
real ones ... but I clearly said don't follow me ...do your own analysis and trade
I could even deviate from being with strategy as still learning ...
but the strategy is good one on paper
lets hope for the best ...
failure at beginning is always good |
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Niftyman
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| Post: #17 Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:46 am Post subject: |
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| vishu06 wrote: | | Niftyman wrote: | | These are your real trades or paper trades. |
real ones ... but I clearly said don't follow me ...do your own analysis and trade
I could even deviate from being with strategy as still learning ...
but the strategy is good one on paper
lets hope for the best ...
failure at beginning is always good |
Thanks for replying.
I may add that I am following your posts only and not your trades
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Saaduu
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| Post: #18 Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:24 pm Post subject: trade 3 |
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| BUY 7500 CALL NF 156 STOP 117 |
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Saaduu
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| Post: #19 Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: trade 3 |
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| vishu06 wrote: | | BUY 7500 CALL NF 156 STOP 117 |
ITS 154 STOP 116 |
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Saaduu
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| Post: #20 Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: trade 3 |
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| vishu06 wrote: | | vishu06 wrote: | | BUY 7500 CALL NF 156 STOP 117 |
ITS 154 STOP 116 |
stop triggered 38*2*75= 5700 (loss) |
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Saaduu
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| Post: #21 Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:04 pm Post subject: adding a filter |
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have been aggressive which paid me well ....but not now
adding a filter which will be used when s&p 500 vix above 20 ...
waiting for a winner |
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Saaduu
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| Post: #22 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:28 am Post subject: bought JAN 7400 PE |
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| Bought 7400 PE at 84 stop 69 |
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Saaduu
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| Post: #23 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:34 am Post subject: Re: bought JAN 7400 PE |
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| vishu06 wrote: | | Bought 7400 PE at 84 stop 69 |
TRADE NO 4 |
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Saaduu
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| Post: #24 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 11:01 am Post subject: Re: bought JAN 7400 PE |
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| vishu06 wrote: | | vishu06 wrote: | | Bought 7400 PE at 84 stop 69 |
TRADE NO 4 |
STOP HIT
loss = 15 *150 = 2250 |
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Saaduu
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| Post: #25 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 11:09 am Post subject: Capital |
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Capital 50000
trade 1 (5850)
trade 2 (9900)
trade 3 (5700)
trade 4 (2250)
total loss (22800)
Capital left 27200 |
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sherbaaz
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| Post: #26 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:23 pm Post subject: Re: Capital |
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| vishu06 wrote: | Capital 50000
trade 1 (5850)
trade 2 (9900)
trade 3 (5700)
trade 4 (2250)
total loss (22800)
Capital left 27200 |
hi,
couple of things i want to understand if its ok for u:-
1) you have lost almost 50% of your capital in 4 trades is it your system/stgy is having problem or you are not able to follow it or your stgy is right but current mkt in not conducive for your stgy?
2) in your first trade the loss was 10% and in your second tade it was approx 20% of your capital. what money mgt have u applied if any or it was due to carrying the trade on or you have not applied any money mgt rules?
3) do u continue with yr current stgy/system or test it further or tweek it as it generated huge losses ?
if u r comfortable kindly reply.
regds,
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pkholla
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| Post: #27 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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Vishu: I used to trade NF & O but stopped as I took big losses. I feel that my losses were bigger than nec due to huge gap between buy and SL
Dont u feel that your losses are also very high due to BUY @ 156, STOP 117 = almost Rs 40 gap???
May be in the beginning you should keep tight SL, say Rs 10 and aim for RR of 1.5:1 or 2:1 ie book profit at Rs 15 or Rs 20 higher?
Then when your capital becomes more due to profit booking, you can relax the SL a little bit?
Also remember that call and put option prices magnify the movement of underlying scrip. So your SL should be tighter than you would keep for underlying scrip or else you can be hurt badly
Prakash Holla |
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Saaduu
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| Post: #28 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:46 pm Post subject: Re: Capital |
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| sherbaaz wrote: | | vishu06 wrote: | Capital 50000
trade 1 (5850)
trade 2 (9900)
trade 3 (5700)
trade 4 (2250)
total loss (22800)
Capital left 27200 |
hi,
couple of things i want to understand if its ok for u:-
1) you have lost almost 50% of your capital in 4 trades is it your system/stgy is having problem or you are not able to follow it or your stgy is right but current mkt in not conducive for your stgy?
2) in your first trade the loss was 10% and in your second tade it was approx 20% of your capital. what money mgt have u applied if any or it was due to carrying the trade on or you have not applied any money mgt rules?
3) do u continue with yr current stgy/system or test it further or tweek it as it generated huge losses ?
if u r comfortable kindly reply.
regds,
s |
hi
owing to success of the strategy ... have got overconfident ...
you are right mistakes were on my part too ... for point no 1
still carrying with the strategy as the fault is much with my psychology than the strategy ....strategy is clean .... i cross checked again
reg % of loss ... that is ok as its a positional system but still will try to keep it small
thanks sher |
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sherbaaz
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| Post: #29 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:54 pm Post subject: Re: Capital |
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| vishu06 wrote: | | sherbaaz wrote: | | vishu06 wrote: | Capital 50000
trade 1 (5850)
trade 2 (9900)
trade 3 (5700)
trade 4 (2250)
total loss (22800)
Capital left 27200 |
hi,
couple of things i want to understand if its ok for u:-
1) you have lost almost 50% of your capital in 4 trades is it your system/stgy is having problem or you are not able to follow it or your stgy is right but current mkt in not conducive for your stgy?
2) in your first trade the loss was 10% and in your second tade it was approx 20% of your capital. what money mgt have u applied if any or it was due to carrying the trade on or you have not applied any money mgt rules?
3) do u continue with yr current stgy/system or test it further or tweek it as it generated huge losses ?
if u r comfortable kindly reply.
regds,
s |
hi
owing to success of the strategy ... have got overconfident ...
you are right mistakes were on my part too ... for point no 1
still carrying with the strategy as the fault is much with my psychology than the strategy ....strategy is clean .... i cross checked again
reg % of loss ... that is ok as its a positional system but still will try to keep it small
thanks sher |
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Saaduu
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| Post: #30 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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| pkholla wrote: | Vishu: I used to trade NF & O but stopped as I took big losses. I feel that my losses were bigger than nec due to huge gap between buy and SL
Dont u feel that your losses are also very high due to BUY @ 156, STOP 117 = almost Rs 40 gap???
May be in the beginning you should keep tight SL, say Rs 10 and aim for RR of 1.5:1 or 2:1 ie book profit at Rs 15 or Rs 20 higher?
Then when your capital becomes more due to profit booking, you can relax the SL a little bit?
Also remember that call and put option prices magnify the movement of underlying scrip. So your SL should be tighter than you would keep for underlying scrip or else you can be hurt badly
Prakash Holla |
Prakash sir ,
thanks for your advice
that is the problem am facing ... running good rr ratio with nifty fut
still working on it to improve
vishu |
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