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psalm
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Post: #706  Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Andre wrote: | | psalm wrote: | | apka wrote: | 7.24 vs 7.45
everything is blasting probably expecting rate cut. |
Apka, its too early to take a call on that....anyway, its a pleasant surprise...but let's see what kinda impact it will have on the market....will the market be able to close above yesterday's high...that's what I'm looking at....  |
Guess RBI has to cut CRR again if not rate cut also...the thing to watch is govt represantative tone this time...as all are saying trend is gd but the abs level is higher than comfort level...so face saving for everyone..... |
Yes, seems that way.... ...I don't think there will be a rate cut now...anyway, thats my gut feeling....only a few days left...so, let's wait and see how RBI views the situation...  |
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skd2012
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| Post: #707 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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market goes up with expectation and comes down whether rate cut or not.
God only knows..... |
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apka
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| Post: #708 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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vinay will be happy to know calls shedding OI and 5800pe added 12 lakh shares total now 94 lakh shares.
tussle between 5900ce and pe |
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Andre
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| Post: #709 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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| sw_das wrote: | market goes up with expectation and comes down whether rate cut or not.
God only knows..... |
guess this time rate cut is not in price.....so incase RBi surprises with rate cut there shd be positive reaction by the market participants.... |
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vinay28
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| Post: #710 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you apka for OI data. Pl check at all upto 5700pe/6100ce.
Those like prakash who will be happy with new sebi rules, hold your horses. Note that trades occur in micro-seconds while nifty updates ONLY 3 times a second.  |
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skd2012
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| Post: #711 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Andre wrote: | | sw_das wrote: | market goes up with expectation and comes down whether rate cut or not.
God only knows..... |
guess this time rate cut is not in price.....so incase RBi surprises with rate cut there shd be positive reaction by the market participants.... |
hypothetically if it happens, market may discount it before hand. Who knows!! |
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apka
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| Post: #712 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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| vinay28 wrote: | Thank you apka for OI data. Pl check at all upto 5700pe/6100ce.
Those like prakash who will be happy with new sebi rules, hold your horses. Note that trades occur in micro-seconds while nifty updates ONLY 3 times a second. |
wall at 5800pe and 6000ce and tussle between 5900ce and pe cuz same OI and same price near about.
rest of the call puts change is negligable.
without high frequency trading it would be dabba trading, highly voltile distant prices entered manually, one dealer shouting to another dealer sitting apart you sold off kya, ok i am also.. oh no buying is coming.. it would be a mess. it would not be traders market then. |
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vinay28
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| Post: #713 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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premium has quietly increased to 37.  |
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pkholla
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| Post: #714 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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| apka wrote: | | vinay28 wrote: | | Those like prakash who will be happy with new sebi rules, hold your horses. Note that trades occur in micro-seconds while nifty updates ONLY 3 times a second. |
without high frequency trading it would be dabba trading, highly voltile distant prices entered manually, one dealer shouting to another dealer sitting apart you sold off kya, ok i am also.. oh no buying is coming.. it would be a mess. it would not be traders market then. |
Vinay/Apka: I am not advocating a return to physical outcry! Or even to fingers ungli-ing each other, koochi koochi, hidden under a rumaal! Hardly! What with lakhs of screens active during trading hours, do we need (a) artificial machine driven thousands of small trades per minute? (b) direct hot wiring of FII cyber-brains to NSE computer? (c) deliberate attempts to feed wrong bids/ offers to kill the small investor? No.
ON 11 DEC 2012, ARE U AWARE THAT THERE WAS DELIBERATE ATTEMPT TO TRIGGER STOP LOSSES IN HDFC DEC FUT WITH ARTIFICIAL LOW OF 755.55 AS AGAINST SPOT LOW OF 866.6?
Even in the US there is much brain storming as to how to find a VIA MEDIA between stone age trading and cyber age trading.
Just because I am against Ferrari, with turbo booster, doesnt mean I want to return to bullock cart! Maruti Swift is perfectly acceptable to me and should be acceptable to you also. Jai Hind
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vinay28
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| Post: #715 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| there there, prakash! |
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apka
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| Post: #716 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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| vinay28 wrote: | | premium has quietly increased to 37. |
it is still happening even with little falls.
need a longer 100-200 point correction to settle future or just plain range bound and it will lose automatically. |
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psalm
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| Post: #717 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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| apka wrote: | | vinay28 wrote: | | premium has quietly increased to 37. |
it is still happening even with little falls.
need a longer 100-200 point correction to settle future or just plain range bound and it will lose automatically. |
Its better to be a bit cautious now...as we're approaching the last hour of friday session..... |
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ragwendra
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| Post: #718 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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| closing would be around 5848 |
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vinay28
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| Post: #719 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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| ragwendra wrote: | | closing would be around 5848 |
not above 5865? |
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vinay28
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| Post: #720 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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| let's see what happens from 2.55pm |
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