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apka
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Post: #46  Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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| psalm wrote: | | apka wrote: | | but VIX is rising in cite of low of volumes because top is near, still volumes in selling have not picked up. if volumes come in buying, vix will drop in a blink of an eye. volumeless rise in vix is not convincing me even though its filling in the charts. |
Any clue from the option data, Apka????... |
only that maximum OI is at 5600pe and 5900ce for now both above 72 lakhs each.
others are near 50 lakhs going up and down.
1 thing is that since last 10 days nifty fut premium is holding at 30-35 points without giving it up to 10-20 points like happened in sept/oct. |
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| Post: #47 Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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| rakpeds wrote: | | vinay28 wrote: | pcr too has been going up for the last 3 days. and now premium going up to eat premium of bears I feel. I still feel market will go down since election results will not be clear till 9th.  |
the result will be clear by 7th morning i giuess... also guys whats the secret of 9 .. sbi results ... anything else |
Once the polling time is over, the counting will start.....Results of counting should start coming by early morning here in India....and normally by tomorrow itself we'll be able to know the result if the verdict is pretty clear.....however, if the situation is similar to the one Bush-Al Gore faced, then there will court battles regarding the polling and counting...in that case it will take time.....it could take even a week or two...... |
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| Post: #48 Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| apka wrote: | | psalm wrote: | | apka wrote: | | but VIX is rising in cite of low of volumes because top is near, still volumes in selling have not picked up. if volumes come in buying, vix will drop in a blink of an eye. volumeless rise in vix is not convincing me even though its filling in the charts. |
Any clue from the option data, Apka????... |
only that maximum OI is at 5600pe and 5900ce for now both above 72 lakhs each.
others are near 50 lakhs going up and down.
1 thing is that since last 10 days nifty fut premium is holding at 30-35 points without giving it up to 10-20 points like happened in sept/oct. |
Anyway, I'll buy PUTs if exiting my SHORTs....will carry them overnight even if the market goes up......already bought a few more PUTs...
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| Post: #49 Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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yesterday's freak O/H of 5759.95 NF not crossed yet. Even if it is crossed, I feel max 5767/89.
sam, yes, it's better to indulge in options rather than fut |
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| Post: #50 Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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| US election results tomm, means our night time ? |
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| Post: #51 Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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Range seems to be intact and more headache  |
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| Post: #52 Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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results on our morning... USA night...
man.. come on ... what a range../. what a range ... since last one month its the case |
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| Post: #53 Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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| taxmann50 wrote: | | Range seems to be intact and more headache |
yup..annoying it is...are you still holding shorts? |
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| Post: #54 Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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| stevenmat wrote: | | taxmann50 wrote: | | Range seems to be intact and more headache |
yup..annoying it is...are you still holding shorts? |
Yes  |
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| Post: #55 Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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| rakpeds wrote: | results on our morning... USA night...
man.. come on ... what a range../. what a range ... since last one month its the case |
All the results wont be out by morning.....result will start coming from morning onwards.....there are a few time zones in the U.S...so, the polling time will differ as well....the counting will start once the polling is over......so, one by one, it will take some time, I feel....may be by evening we'll be able to have some understanding.....I dont remember how it happened last time....anyway, you wont get the complete result by morning for sure...cos, when polling under way in some states, counting might have started in other states.... |
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| Post: #56 Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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| psalm wrote: | | rakpeds wrote: | results on our morning... USA night...
man.. come on ... what a range../. what a range ... since last one month its the case |
All the results wont be out by morning.....result will start coming from morning onwards.....there are a few time zones in the U.S...so, the polling time will differ as well....the counting will start once the polling is over......so, one by one, it will take some time, I feel....may be by evening we'll be able to have some understanding.....I dont remember how it happened last time....anyway, you wont get the complete result by morning for sure...cos, when polling under way in some states, counting might have started in other states.... |
oh so again tmrw a ranged session... ... and any idea sam bro why all Option price increasing... call put ... otm itm atm all are increasing... |
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| Post: #57 Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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| rakpeds wrote: | | psalm wrote: | | rakpeds wrote: | results on our morning... USA night...
man.. come on ... what a range../. what a range ... since last one month its the case |
All the results wont be out by morning.....result will start coming from morning onwards.....there are a few time zones in the U.S...so, the polling time will differ as well....the counting will start once the polling is over......so, one by one, it will take some time, I feel....may be by evening we'll be able to have some understanding.....I dont remember how it happened last time....anyway, you wont get the complete result by morning for sure...cos, when polling under way in some states, counting might have started in other states.... |
oh so again tmrw a ranged session... ... and any idea sam bro why all Option price increasing... call put ... otm itm atm all are increasing... |
Its because of the risks option writers have to take while writing CALLs or PUTs.....they'll demand more premium in these kinda scenarios where the risk is pretty high....once the results are out, the market could give a clear direction...at that time, the risks will come down for the writers....and hence the premiums as well....
NOTE: This is what Vinay earlier mentioned as 'eating the premium"....  |
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| Post: #58 Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Samji any chance of big gapups tomorrow? if you think there is some chances then shall i square of half my Nifty shorts at EOD today or shall I wait for tomorrow? |
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| Post: #59 Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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| psalm wrote: | | rakpeds wrote: | | psalm wrote: | | rakpeds wrote: | results on our morning... USA night...
man.. come on ... what a range../. what a range ... since last one month its the case |
All the results wont be out by morning.....result will start coming from morning onwards.....there are a few time zones in the U.S...so, the polling time will differ as well....the counting will start once the polling is over......so, one by one, it will take some time, I feel....may be by evening we'll be able to have some understanding.....I dont remember how it happened last time....anyway, you wont get the complete result by morning for sure...cos, when polling under way in some states, counting might have started in other states.... |
oh so again tmrw a ranged session... ... and any idea sam bro why all Option price increasing... call put ... otm itm atm all are increasing... |
Its because of the risks option writers have to take while writing CALLs or PUTs.....they'll demand more premium in these kinda scenarios where the risk is pretty high....once the results are out, the market could give a clear direction...at that time, the risks will come down for the writers....and hence the premiums as well....
NOTE: This is what Vinay earlier mentioned as 'eating the premium".... |
so means lets say if we write both 5700 CE and PE .... the risk reward is higher ???? |
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| Post: #60 Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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| taxmann take your call after 3 pm. I feel that if in doubt hedge ce with pe |
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