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Post: #3661   PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
psalm wrote:
anand1234 wrote:
hi.....sam

if spot will not stay above 5350........then we may c 5300 -5280 level by today or tomorrow.......let c...........(TOMORROW ALSO INFY RESULT....SO VERY VERY CAUTIOUS).......my observation......do u agree ??

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anand



The resistance I'm looking at is around 5370-5385 area as of now....below that anything could happen....I have no idea where we're heading.....but as long as we're above the 13-day EMA, on a closing basis, there will be buying....as of now, levels around 5300 looks key....a break below 5314 will push us to 5303 levels below that we could test 5280 levels...anyway, let's see if we hold 5303-5305 levels...


hi.....sam

nifty spot has come according to my level.......may max 5280........one can think abt buy at that stage.(5280 - 5300)............tgt may b 5350.........let c
(MY OBSERVATION)

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Post: #3662   PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
anand1234 wrote:
psalm wrote:
anand1234 wrote:
hi.....sam

if spot will not stay above 5350........then we may c 5300 -5280 level by today or tomorrow.......let c...........(TOMORROW ALSO INFY RESULT....SO VERY VERY CAUTIOUS).......my observation......do u agree ??

thx
anand



The resistance I'm looking at is around 5370-5385 area as of now....below that anything could happen....I have no idea where we're heading.....but as long as we're above the 13-day EMA, on a closing basis, there will be buying....as of now, levels around 5300 looks key....a break below 5314 will push us to 5303 levels below that we could test 5280 levels...anyway, let's see if we hold 5303-5305 levels...


hi.....sam

nifty spot has come according to my level.......may max 5280........one can think abt buy at that stage.(5280 - 5300)............tgt may b 5350.........let c
(MY OBSERVATION)

thx
anand



Ok... Smile
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Post: #3663   PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
covered my shorts of yesterday and went long at 5302/04
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Post: #3664   PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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covered my shorts of yesterday and went long at 5302/04


Okie... Smile
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Post: #3665   PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
apka/sam/vinat

need your help..why are both OTM puts and calls for INFY trading in green? how is it mathematically/logically possible?
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Post: #3666   PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
steve, I think it shows two opposite groups' tug of war. Smile

I have bought both ce and pe, same as veerappan has also advised although they are not equally priced as they should be. but I feel bias is on +ve side
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Post: #3667   PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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steve, I think it shows two opposite groups' tug of war. Smile

I have bought both ce and pe, same as veerappan has also advised although they are not equally priced as they should be. but I feel bias is on +ve side


What are your strikes?
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Post: #3668   PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
2500ce/2300pe bought at 96 and 36

by the way I am hoping for 5388 nifty tmrw. Smile
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Post: #3669   PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
stevenmat wrote:
apka/sam/vinat

need your help..why are both OTM puts and calls for INFY trading in green? how is it mathematically/logically possible?


Steven, one reason is the supply-demand phenomenon...the other thing is the Risk premium associated with it.....the writers will demand more premium as the event is pretty risky......there is huge risk associated with both the PUTs and CALLs right?...that's why both the prices will go up.... Smile
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Post: #3670   PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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2500ce/2300pe bought at 96 and 36

by the way I am hoping for 5388 nifty tmrw. Smile


I bought c-2600 @ 55 and p-2350 @ 55...both are in profit now..lol...anyways keeping fingers crossed...
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Post: #3671   PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I feel you and me won't regret it
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Post: #3672   PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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2500ce/2300pe bought at 96 and 36

by the way I am hoping for 5388 nifty tmrw. Smile


and Infy above 2700???..... Laughing
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Post: #3673   PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
psalm wrote:
stevenmat wrote:
apka/sam/vinat

need your help..why are both OTM puts and calls for INFY trading in green? how is it mathematically/logically possible?


Steven, one reason is the supply-demand phenomenon...the other thing is the Risk premium associated with it.....the writers will demand more premium as the event is pretty risky......there is huge risk associated with both the PUTs and CALLs right?...that's why both the prices will go up.... Smile


isnt supply and demand driven by plain logic?
i thought option prices imbibe two types of prices - 1. actual value (S-X or X-S) and 2. Time value. Dint know that it had a premium for risk...are you sure?
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Post: #3674   PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
stevenmat wrote:
psalm wrote:
stevenmat wrote:
apka/sam/vinat

need your help..why are both OTM puts and calls for INFY trading in green? how is it mathematically/logically possible?


Steven, one reason is the supply-demand phenomenon...the other thing is the Risk premium associated with it.....the writers will demand more premium as the event is pretty risky......there is huge risk associated with both the PUTs and CALLs right?...that's why both the prices will go up.... Smile


isnt supply and demand driven by plain logic?
i thought option prices imbibe two types of prices - 1. actual value (S-X or X-S) and 2. Time value. Dint know that it had a premium for risk...are you sure?



Time value is basically the risk premium that the option seller requires to provide the option buyer the right to buy/sell the stock up to the date the option expires. It is like an insurance premium of the option; the higher the risk, the higher the cost to buy the option. For more on Option pricing, please check the following link, Steven:

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/optioninvestor/07/options_beat_market.asp#axzz20J6HL64w
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Post: #3675   PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
stevenmat wrote:
psalm wrote:
stevenmat wrote:
apka/sam/vinat

need your help..why are both OTM puts and calls for INFY trading in green? how is it mathematically/logically possible?


Steven, one reason is the supply-demand phenomenon...the other thing is the Risk premium associated with it.....the writers will demand more premium as the event is pretty risky......there is huge risk associated with both the PUTs and CALLs right?...that's why both the prices will go up.... Smile


isnt supply and demand driven by plain logic?
i thought option prices imbibe two types of prices - 1. actual value (S-X or X-S) and 2. Time value. Dint know that it had a premium for risk...are you sure?



Supply-demand thing may not be driven by plain logic all the time....that's the reason why bubbles get formed at times.... Very Happy
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