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yashrahul Yellow Belt
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Post: #481 Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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Note:Markets have turned very volatile.....erosion in premium is going on far away strikes if one observes them regularly...the highest oi is still concentrated around the 6500 put and 7000 call range..with some good addition also seen in 6000 put..this series is impossible to predict owing to the unpredictable election results but going by the options data the rough range is 6300-7200...if we add the premium of the 6500 put and 7000 call to their respective strike prices as per their trading value one or two weeks back...still this month even with a very broad range will be the most unpredictable of them all...hence trade carefully...best luck |
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amitagg Black Belt
Joined: 01 Oct 2013 Posts: 4559
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Post: #482 Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Over thee past 5-7 days, I could see my sold 7000 call gain from 220 to 150 (and current 123 low 110 approx) while my sold 7000 put was near cost of 332 (closing some 387)...meaning calls were written and put prices did not rise "proportionately" despite fall....any ideas...and what happened to other strikes....it to a layman like me means support for 6500 NS...and more confidence is support holding...and may be creating cushion for entrying longs (by cash buying) and selling NF to kill call premiums....covered call type of thing...any comments / ideas.....range u mentioned is the most likely one it appears.... |
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yashrahul Yellow Belt
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Post: #483 Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 12:07 am Post subject: |
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amitagg wrote: | Over thee past 5-7 days, I could see my sold 7000 call gain from 220 to 150 (and current 123 low 110 approx) while my sold 7000 put was near cost of 332 (closing some 387)...meaning calls were written and put prices did not rise "proportionately" despite fall....any ideas...and what happened to other strikes....it to a layman like me means support for 6500 NS...and more confidence is support holding...and may be creating cushion for entrying longs (by cash buying) and selling NF to kill call premiums....covered call type of thing...any comments / ideas.....range u mentioned is the most likely one it appears.... |
Options data changes everyday..it will be interesting to look at the options data on 15 th may one day before the result... for a layman like me it will be absolutely impossible to predict the outcome on 16th may even by looking at the options data on 15 th may...elections are most unpredictable by nature but the broad range does look like 6300-7200 as of now...we will know slowly as the days progress if the range shifts and becomes narrower or widens further.....in this month before the results both the itm and nearby itm calls and the puts are bound to lose premium irrespective of the movement of the market..so the call writers and the put writers will make money till the declaration of the results...best luck |
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rk_a2003 Black Belt
Joined: 21 Jan 2010 Posts: 2734
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Post: #484 Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 7:19 am Post subject: |
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yashrahul wrote: | amitagg wrote: | Over thee past 5-7 days, I could see my sold 7000 call gain from 220 to 150 (and current 123 low 110 approx) while my sold 7000 put was near cost of 332 (closing some 387)...meaning calls were written and put prices did not rise "proportionately" despite fall....any ideas...and what happened to other strikes....it to a layman like me means support for 6500 NS...and more confidence is support holding...and may be creating cushion for entrying longs (by cash buying) and selling NF to kill call premiums....covered call type of thing...any comments / ideas.....range u mentioned is the most likely one it appears.... |
Options data changes everyday..it will be interesting to look at the options data on 15 th may one day before the result... for a layman like me it will be absolutely impossible to predict the outcome on 16th may even by looking at the options data on 15 th may...elections are most unpredictable by nature but the broad range does look like 6300-7200 as of now...we will know slowly as the days progress if the range shifts and becomes narrower or widens further.....in this month before the results both the itm and nearby itm calls and the puts are bound to lose premium irrespective of the movement of the market..so the call writers and the put writers will make money till the declaration of the results...best luck |
Yes, election results cannot be predicted accurately but can exactly fit in three frames…. most favorable to market, most unfavorable to market and via media i.e clear majority to any tom dick and harry, a hung where alliances are easily not possible and a hung where alliances can be formed with relative ease.
Option writers who are mostly market makers consider these scenarios and jack up the premiums to an extent where they cannot get in to losses in any case.
It’s clearly evident from the past experiences that it’s unlikely that option buyers will be benefited in any case. We need not wonder even if both call and put buyers go busted after results. |
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yashrahul Yellow Belt
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Post: #485 Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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Note:Something unusual was happening today in 6300 put and 7200 call...at one point of time both were appreciating even though the market was moving in a 10 point range...one more thing i have observed over the past one week 7200 call doesn't come below 75 very easily irrespective of the market not moving higher much ...some how 7200 call keeps on bouncing back from lower levels to 75 and above...i have been trading in 6300 put and 7200 call over the past one week or so hence was able to observe these movements on a regular basis..don't have exact details of other calls and puts...
highest oi is still at 6500 put and 7000 call...hence my expected range of 6300-7200 has not narrowed not widened...be careful in trading for this month...take care...best luck |
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yashrahul Yellow Belt
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Post: #486 Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 11:42 am Post subject: |
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The premium in puts has gone bust..this is the reason why i had abstained from mentioning about calls or puts in the past one month by looking at options open interest..what was visible was the range of 6300-7200..the upside of the range is here and in one week or two and things will start settling down once the results are out and if they are as per the Exit polls...then we can again start looking at options open interest as one sided move of the markets will probably come to an end and the open interest will be a better guide as compared to what it was in the month of may...still the results are not out and lets hope that we don't have any surprises...Best luck |
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yashrahul Yellow Belt
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Post: #487 Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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Note:Election results are done with and finally we will back to normal ways soon in options,today it was not all a good day for option buyers..both calls and puts lost money irrespective of the direction of the markets..one more notable point is not only may but even june calls and puts also lost the premiums..this generally happens after a very big event like the elections..my guess is that the premiums of calls/puts might not have fully eroded premium and will slowly erode their premium in the coming weeks..we will start looking at oi like before from the month of june...in the coming days markets will settle at some level for itself and again start trading in an intermediate range...new levels are here and positive sentiments will help the markets owing to the election results once the markets settle down in the coming days...will be back soon...best luck... |
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amitagg Black Belt
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Post: #488 Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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yashrahul wrote: | Note:Election results are done with and finally we will back to normal ways soon in options,today it was not all a good day for option buyers..both calls and puts lost money irrespective of the direction of the markets..one more notable point is not only may but even june calls and puts also lost the premiums..this generally happens after a very big event like the elections..my guess is that the premiums of calls/puts might not have fully eroded premium and will slowly erode their premium in the coming weeks..we will start looking at oi like before from the month of june...in the coming days markets will settle at some level for itself and again start trading in an intermediate range...new levels are here and positive sentiments will help the markets owing to the election results once the markets settle down in the coming days...will be back soon...best luck... |
and the premiums eroding....to make way for another round of premium explosion before the budget....etc...... |
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yoginishreyas White Belt
Joined: 03 Dec 2012 Posts: 80
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Post: #489 Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 8:59 am Post subject: |
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Its new morning, new series, End of volatile series and beginning of new era.
We are all waiting for your guidance on Open Interest again.
Thanks
Shreyas |
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paa White Belt
Joined: 28 Sep 2010 Posts: 178
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Post: #490 Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 10:46 am Post subject: |
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Sonil,
please attach latest excel file for nifty and bank nifty open interest.
old one is not working properly
Regards |
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yashrahul Yellow Belt
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Post: #491 Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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yoginishreyas wrote: | Its new morning, new series, End of volatile series and beginning of new era.
We are all waiting for your guidance on Open Interest again.
Thanks
Shreyas |
i won't be able to mention regularly but whenever i see huge accumulation of oi in any particular calls and puts i would definitely post it,thanks |
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yashrahul Yellow Belt
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Post: #492 Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Note:we have seen the best of election results and they are behind us, markets have consistently hit new highs and in the coming five years I hope we see newer and newer highs,from an Nifty options point of view the most volatile period is over for the next five years till the next elections.
for the start of the june series,highest oi is at 7500 call and 7000 put,as the days progress we will know better whether this range holds or moves to the upside or downside.....best luck |
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yashrahul Yellow Belt
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Post: #493 Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Note:Huge oi addition seen in 7300 put,it seems that 7300 put is being written and 7300 call has cut some oi there by giving the indication that the market is trying to make a base at 7300 and move up further...the oi in 7300 put is not much and hence it is too early to conclude that a base is formed immediately but we will get to know in some days depending on the movements of the markets... |
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yashrahul Yellow Belt
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Post: #494 Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Note:OI addition seen in most of the puts indicating that they are been written contrary to that most of the calls have shed OI indicating unwinding of shorts in those particular calls,overall it seems markets are moving on the upside with strong support at 7500 NS. |
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amitagg Black Belt
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Post: #495 Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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yashrahul wrote: | Note:OI addition seen in most of the puts indicating that they are been written contrary to that most of the calls have shed OI indicating unwinding of shorts in those particular calls,overall it seems markets are moving on the upside with strong support at 7500 NS. |
Welcome after the break |
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