Home
Option Tools
Services Offered
My Services
Contact Us
Charts
Charts (Premium)
Chart Watch
JCharts (EOD)
JCharts(EOD-COMM)
HCharts (EOD)
HCharts (EOD-COMM)
Forum
Stock Lists
Screener (EOD)
Screener (EOD-Comm)
Breadth Charts
Calculators
Education
Links
FAQs
Advertise Here
Charts (Old)
Login Form





Lost Password?
No account yet? Register
  iCharts Discussions

 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Option Query

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    iCharts Discussions Forum Index -> Futures & Options
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Option Query
Hydrogen
White Belt
White Belt


Joined: 18 Feb 2014
Posts: 87

Post: #1   PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 8:52 pm    Post subject: Option Query Reply with quote

Posting my Query, so that anyone can help

I am planning to play Verticals Spread on Stock Options, But as you people know that Options on Stock is not liquid.

I want to know that what will happen if I am unable to close my vertical spread till the day of Expiry.

I will take here an example

Lets taks RELIANCE. On 30th May Reliance LTP is 968.7 and on 30th June Reliance LTP is 969.15

On 30th May, I decided to create a Vertical Spread

I purchased June 980CE @ 21 and Sold june 1020 CE @ 8.90

On 30th June (Expiry Date) I want to Square of my position

Sell June 980 CE @ 0.05 & Cover June 1020 CE @ 0.05

But I found that there are no buyers and Sellers and I am not able to Square off my position till the end of day.


On 30th June I am making a loss of -12 on my above Trade. What will happen after that.

I know that Since the option never went into in the Money, It will expire at 0.

How much STT will be charged on me. In the above example I am in Loss.

If suppose in the above example If I am in profit, how much STT will be charged.

Can I keep the option and let them expire on it's own, If there are no buyers & Sellers
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
jk99
White Belt
White Belt


Joined: 20 May 2013
Posts: 81

Post: #2   PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i hoped option is not for trading ,it is only for insurance used /regards
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Hydrogen
White Belt
White Belt


Joined: 18 Feb 2014
Posts: 87

Post: #3   PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jk99 wrote:
i hoped option is not for trading ,it is only for insurance used /regards


Hi JK9

At Small level it can be used for Trading.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Gemini
White Belt
White Belt


Joined: 28 Apr 2009
Posts: 166

Post: #4   PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hydrogen:

Situations and suggested actions at expiry

Call Options-
- If Market price (Spot) is lower than Sold / bought strike price, do nothing. (In your example - nothing needs to be done).

- If market price (spot) is more than sold / bought strike price, square off.

Put Options-
- If Market price (spot) is higher than Sold / bought strike price, do nothing. (In your example - nothing needs to be done).

- If market price (spot) is lower than sold / bought strike price, square off.

JK99: Options are used for trading ..

Regards.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Hydrogen
White Belt
White Belt


Joined: 18 Feb 2014
Posts: 87

Post: #5   PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gemini wrote:
Hydrogen:

Situations and suggested actions at expiry

Call Options-
- If Market price (Spot) is lower than Sold / bought strike price, do nothing. (In your example - nothing needs to be done).

- If market price (spot) is more than sold / bought strike price, square off.

Put Options-
- If Market price (spot) is higher than Sold / bought strike price, do nothing. (In your example - nothing needs to be done).

- If market price (spot) is lower than sold / bought strike price, square off.

JK99: Options are used for trading ..

Regards.


Thanks Gemini
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
jk99
White Belt
White Belt


Joined: 20 May 2013
Posts: 81

Post: #6   PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi hydrogen,
now clossed is 8866,
let us apply one technique as,
buy 3 times put of8700 and 1 time call of 8900 for oct expiry ,
after market settle on (when market open)
we will exit near about double our investment or if market goes up ...let us see how put adjust ,,,(i am leaner not expert)
regards

*learner
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Hydrogen
White Belt
White Belt


Joined: 18 Feb 2014
Posts: 87

Post: #7   PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jk99 wrote:
hi hydrogen,
now clossed is 8866,
let us apply one technique as,
buy 3 times put of8700 and 1 time call of 8900 for oct expiry ,
after market settle on (when market open)
we will exit near about double our investment or if market goes up ...let us see how put adjust ,,,(i am leaner not expert)
regards

*learner


Well, I don't know what is your strategy behind the technique you have given. Just to Document it I am attaching the Investment. This is the EOD value of the option taken from NSE India site.

Will See it after expiry.



Capture.JPG
 Description:
 Filesize:  22.43 KB
 Viewed:  413 Time(s)

Capture.JPG


Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Alchemist
Yellow Belt
Yellow Belt


Joined: 09 Aug 2010
Posts: 853

Post: #8   PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi - In your original example you have said you want to exit both options at 5 paisa which clearly means both options are expiring OTM and eventually will expire at 0. No additional STT is payable if you let them expire worthless as both legs are expiring OTM


What if either or both options are expiring ITM? read on ...


http://zerodha.com/z-connect/queries/stock-and-fo-queries/stt-options-nse-bse-mcx-sx


Cheers
SH
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Hydrogen
White Belt
White Belt


Joined: 18 Feb 2014
Posts: 87

Post: #9   PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alchemist wrote:
Hi - In your original example you have said you want to exit both options at 5 paisa which clearly means both options are expiring OTM and eventually will expire at 0. No additional STT is payable if you let them expire worthless as both legs are expiring OTM


What if either or both options are expiring ITM? read on ...


http://zerodha.com/z-connect/queries/stock-and-fo-queries/stt-options-nse-bse-mcx-sx


Cheers
SH


Hi Alchemist

Thanks, for the link

This is what I was expecting the answer. Wanted to know the STT part and you have showed the way.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    iCharts Discussions Forum Index -> Futures & Options All times are GMT + 5.5 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You can attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group

@MEMBER OF PROJECT HONEY POT
Spam Harvester Protection Network
provided by Unspam