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arnav2007 White Belt
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Post: #31 Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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rakpeds wrote: | rakpeds wrote: |
Trade taken sq. off 5200 put @ 24 and write next month's put @ 5300 strick @ 103. |
arnav sir... i want to enter now... pls suggest me which options to write at this stage to start with...
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PLease let me know the above query sir,[/quote]
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you can start with currently written options at market price.
Arnav
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rakpeds White Belt
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Post: #32 Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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arnav2007 wrote: | rakpeds wrote: | rakpeds wrote: |
Trade taken sq. off 5200 put @ 24 and write next month's put @ 5300 strick @ 103. |
arnav sir... i want to enter now... pls suggest me which options to write at this stage to start with...
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PLease let me know the above query sir, |
Dear
you can start with currently written options at market price.
Arnav[/quote]
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thanks arnav sir... i entered 5300PE AUG at 156 and 5300CE JUL at 45 ... Shorted both... Please keep me posted on next entries or exit
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arnav2007 White Belt
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Post: #33 Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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rakpeds wrote: | arnav2007 wrote: | rakpeds wrote: | rakpeds wrote: |
Trade taken sq. off 5200 put @ 24 and write next month's put @ 5300 strick @ 103. |
arnav sir... i want to enter now... pls suggest me which options to write at this stage to start with...
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PLease let me know the above query sir, |
Dear
you can start with currently written options at market price.
Arnav |
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thanks arnav sir... i entered 5300PE AUG at 156 and 5300CE JUL at 45 ... Shorted both... Please keep me posted on next entries or exit[/quote]
Dear rakpeds
you must understand that writing options are very risky for any newcomer in this line. It may test one's pertinence and risk taking capacity. I advise initial capital of Rs 2.5 lac for this purpose.
Kindly trade only if you are oldeee.. in Capital Market and have full awareness about market risk and movement.
Other wise trade it on paper and once you fully understand the concept and risk, then it is advised to go on.
wishes
arnav
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rakpeds White Belt
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Post: #34 Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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arnav2007 wrote: | rakpeds wrote: | arnav2007 wrote: | rakpeds wrote: | rakpeds wrote: |
Trade taken sq. off 5200 put @ 24 and write next month's put @ 5300 strick @ 103. |
arnav sir... i want to enter now... pls suggest me which options to write at this stage to start with...
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PLease let me know the above query sir, |
Dear
you can start with currently written options at market price.
Arnav |
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thanks arnav sir... i entered 5300PE AUG at 156 and 5300CE JUL at 45 ... Shorted both... Please keep me posted on next entries or exit |
Dear rakpeds
you must understand that writing options are very risky for any newcomer in this line. It may test one's pertinence and risk taking capacity. I advise initial capital of Rs 2.5 lac for this purpose.
Kindly trade only if you are oldeee.. in Capital Market and have full awareness about market risk and movement.
Other wise trade it on paper and once you fully understand the concept and risk, then it is advised to go on.
wishes
arnav[/quote]
yes arnav sir... for sure. i do understand the risk involved in the same.
Also oldie enough for FnO section. But will need your guidance for the same through intial course of time as option pain is something new and learning phase for me.
So any change as of now for the above two shorted entities.
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arnav2007 White Belt
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Post: #35 Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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Option Pain is stuck between 5200-5300, this shows directionless market for the time being.
with maxi. call writing @ 5200-5300-5400 and covering of puts on same stricks.
EOD chart showing some weakness as –
MACD near to crossover – RSI showed (-) divergence & today’s closing candle below 5EMA.
For above reasons, no aggressive option writing till confirmation of trend and till than current positions continues.
arnav
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arnav2007 White Belt
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Post: #36 Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:21 am Post subject: |
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i mostly heard of risk in writing options in scenario of high movements like circuit or big gap up/down.
Here one can do following:-
1. in case some imp. event known sq. of put/call between rs 20-30 & buy put/call between 8-12 for hedging open positions.
2. In case no event or a major trend is already in exteem overbought/oversold postion, then buy put/call between rs. 5-10 for hedging open positions.
This will reduce unlimited liability in option writing, otherwise within hedged positions its is quite manageable to write options.
for this help of upper BB20 and lower BB20 may be taken. it is for reason if any major movement happens it certainly breach BB20.
arnav
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arnav2007 White Belt
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Post: #37 Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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As nifty MACD given sell signal:-
Sell 1 lot 5400 call august series @ 75-79 after 3.15pm if nifty not breaks days high.
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rakpeds White Belt
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Post: #38 Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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arnav2007 wrote: | As nifty MACD given sell signal:-
Sell 1 lot 5400 call august series @ 75-79 after 3.15pm if nifty not breaks days high.
arnav |
Arnav sir then wat abt 5300PEAUG and 5200CEJULY ? we should keep those also ?
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arnav2007 White Belt
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Post: #39 Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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rakpeds wrote: | arnav2007 wrote: | As nifty MACD given sell signal:-
Sell 1 lot 5400 call august series @ 75-79 after 3.15pm if nifty not breaks days high.
arnav |
Arnav sir then wat abt 5300PEAUG and 5200CEJULY ? we should keep those also ? |
Its 5300PEAUG and 5300CEJULY -
positions contiue untill sq.off or expires
kindly don't suffix 'sir' .
arnav
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rakpeds White Belt
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Post: #40 Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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arnav2007 wrote: | rakpeds wrote: | arnav2007 wrote: | As nifty MACD given sell signal:-
Sell 1 lot 5400 call august series @ 75-79 after 3.15pm if nifty not breaks days high.
arnav |
Arnav sir then wat abt 5300PEAUG and 5200CEJULY ? we should keep those also ? |
Its 5300PEAUG and 5300CEJULY -
positions contiue untill sq.off or expires
arnav |
ok sir...my typo... it means we will add one more that is 5400CE AUG by today EOD if high is not broken...
So we will have 3 positions in that case
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arnav2007 White Belt
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Post: #41 Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Current value of written options is about rs. 12000/- and total sell value is rs. 14900/-.
arnav
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arnav2007 White Belt
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Post: #42 Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:21 am Post subject: |
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Sq. off 5300 call july @ 22 and write 5300 call aug @ 95
arnav
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Vinodz White Belt
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Post: #43 Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:50 am Post subject: as of 17july 12pm |
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pls confirm positions as of 17july
short written
5300PEAUG
5400CEAUG
5300CEAUG
thanks
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arnav2007 White Belt
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Post: #44 Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:59 am Post subject: Re: as of 17july 12pm |
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Vinodz wrote: | pls confirm positions as of 17july
short written
5300PEAUG
5400CEAUG
5300CEAUG
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sir ji, you are right
find attached option sheet
wishes
arnav
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rakpeds White Belt
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Post: #45 Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:08 pm Post subject: Re: as of 17july 12pm |
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arnav2007 wrote: | Vinodz wrote: | pls confirm positions as of 17july
short written
5300PEAUG
5400CEAUG
5300CEAUG
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sir ji, you are right
find attached option sheet
wishes
arnav |
Arnav sir... i missed this last trade was busy.. but not no worries... will do it now..
also sir what is the maximum number of short we will be keeping open at one time ???
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