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arnav2007
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Post: #46  Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: as of 17july 12pm |
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| rakpeds wrote: | | arnav2007 wrote: | | Vinodz wrote: | pls confirm positions as of 17july
short written
5300PEAUG
5400CEAUG
5300CEAUG
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sir ji, you are right
find attached option sheet
wishes
arnav |
Arnav sir... i missed this last trade  was busy.. but not no worries... will do it now..
also sir what is the maximum number of short we will be keeping open at one time ???
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dear, currently we are using about two lot of Nifty margin plus exposure margin of about 15 k.
Option writing is mainly counts return on either margin used or kept in safety for using the same in time of needs.
so I do not presume any no of trades but in all margin used shall be restricted to 1.5 -2.00 lac.
one other thing, I generally used concept to reduce trade of opposite side to trend and don't hesitate in writing at trend side.
arnav 
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jitesh7
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| Post: #47 Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Arnav,
At the moment we have 3 open position (2 CE and 1 PE). Here we are hedging one CE by one PE. dont you think that we Should hedge other CE Sell as well. what will happen if tomarrow MACD will give the buy signal? in that case will this CE be simply replaced by PE sell?
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Jitesh
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Gemini
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| Post: #48 Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Nice thread, interesting discussions.
One word of caution, though... Selling put is more risky as when the market falls, the fall is quite rapid and one may not get chance to cover the position.
For beginners on the thread, I recommend dealing with only writing (i.e. selling) of calls.
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arnav2007
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| Post: #49 Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| jitesh7 wrote: | Hi Arnav,
At the moment we have 3 open position (2 CE and 1 PE). Here we are hedging one CE by one PE. dont you think that we Should hedge other CE Sell as well. what will happen if tomarrow MACD will give the buy signal? in that case will this CE be simply replaced by PE sell?
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Jitesh |
hi jitesh 
about hedging-risk etc. kindly go through full post.
then any  we 
there shall not be presumptive trading.
Wishes
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arnav2007
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| Post: #50 Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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Present value of liability 14150/-
5000 pe and 5400 ce can be bought for hedging
my view of july is still sideways.
arnav
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shankaar10
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| Post: #51 Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:33 am Post subject: |
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Hi Arnav,
My early stage in trading i have researched and tested subject hedging strategy for months but making money is quite remote and you will end up loosing in brokerage. I am no mean to discourage you guys but encourage you to back test before investing anything in real terms.
One more thing if you are pro with direction than you will make some money or during sideways otherwise not worth.
In July and Oct months you may yield some return.
Wish you all good luck.
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arnav2007
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| Post: #52 Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:28 am Post subject: |
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5200 PE AUG Coverd @ 96
no loss in gross 5200 pe written
arnav
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arnav2007
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| Post: #53 Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:03 am Post subject: |
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Sq.off 5400 aug call between 18-21
arnav
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rakpeds
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| Post: #54 Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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| arnav2007 wrote: | 5200 PE AUG Coverd @ 96
no loss in gross 5200 pe written
arnav |
wasnt it a 5300pe... sry if i am wrong
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rakpeds
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| Post: #55 Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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| arnav2007 wrote: | Sq.off 5400 aug call between 18-21
arnav |
also arnav sir... currently we have only 5300CE AUG short right...
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arnav2007
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| Post: #56 Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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Sq. off 5400 call aug. @ 23.8
remainging 5300 ca aug cmp 47
Value of liability 2350/-
Value earned 12,950/- profit so far = 10600/-
option trading sheet attached
arnav
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rakpeds
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| Post: #57 Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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| arnav2007 wrote: | Sq. off 5400 call aug. @ 23.8
remainging 5300 ca aug cmp 47
Value of liability 2350/-
Value earned 12,950/- profit so far = 10600/-
option trading sheet attached
arnav |
yes arnav sir... grt...
So what next only holding 5300 CE AUG...
Waiting for the nxt trades ...
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arnav2007
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| Post: #58 Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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As per Nifty chart unless it not closes below lower band of BB-20, no new trade till expiry except present positions.
Option data of Aug series is also showing support of 5100 puts and expiry of this month between 5110-5140
see what happens on expiry
so far this series is profitable
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rakpeds
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| Post: #59 Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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| arnav2007 wrote: | As per Nifty chart unless it not closes below lower band of BB-20, no new trade till expiry except present positions.
Option data of Aug series is also showing support of 5100 puts and expiry of this month between 5110-5140
see what happens on expiry
so far this series is profitable
arnav |
Thanks for the update arnav sir... yes this series was good... awaiting the next series and trades sir
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arnav2007
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| Post: #60 Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
Now we are out of expiry mania and so callled major event 'RBI' policy.
Now back to normal
Nifty charts and BB-20 suggest ranged market for options.
If nifty sustain above 5200 and closes today above 5200 short
1 lot Nifty put 5100 sep. series
No aggressive shorting as Indiavix is very low (16.21) and major surprising movement possible either side.
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