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Post: #1   PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:04 pm    Post subject: Pearls in Shout Box Reply with quote

Dear fellow Traders

Daily in SB (Shout Box) lot of knowledge is being shared. and it is getting unnoticed by lot of us if we are not there at that time. May be not everyone of us download the archieve and read it.

Hence just thought of starting this thread. Anybody can add the topic which was discussed in SB which you feel is worthy to share.

Today Seshareddy sir was saying about this.

one very simple point i can tell when mkt trading below of yday low no sup will stop the mkt or if mkt trades above yday high no res will stop the rally

basic problem of moves are with prev candle high or low

traders beliefs are yday low or high

if up open we have to c whether yday high became as sup or not

if down open we have to c whether yday low sup or restricted

if flat open we have to keep eye on yday high or low

Hope it is useful.
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Post: #2   PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi kanna.
nice initiative by u
thanks a lot thanks
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Post: #3   PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

goritos : how to make money using icharts

mayurnsk : by using them

mayurnsk : using them by watching

mayurnsk : but taking decision by throwing your mind away

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Post: #4   PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SeshaReddy sir, I'm working on a breakout system taking into consideration the break of previous high/low... Can you elaborate on this... I'm not very clear on what you posted... Maybe someone who understood can reply too...

Thanks in advance...

I Miss SHOUT BOX....

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Post: #5   PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kanna great job....u started this thread..I hope everyone will be benefited from this thread.
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Post: #6   PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kanna, appreciate your idea starting this kinda thread.
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Post: #7   PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:01 am    Post subject: Re: Pearls in Shout Box Reply with quote

kanna wrote:
Dear fellow Traders

Daily in SB (Shout Box) lot of knowledge is being shared. and it is getting unnoticed by lot of us if we are not there at that time. May be not everyone of us download the archieve and read it.

Hence just thought of starting this thread. Anybody can add the topic which was discussed in SB which you feel is worthy to share.

Today Seshareddy sir was saying about this.

one very simple point i can tell when mkt trading below of yday low no sup will stop the mkt or if mkt trades above yday high no res will stop the rally

basic problem of moves are with prev candle high or low

traders beliefs are yday low or high

if up open we have to c whether yday high became as sup or not

if down open we have to c whether yday low sup or restricted

if flat open we have to keep eye on yday high or low

Hope it is useful.


i m posting conversation between sanchit and sesha sir, which appears to be quite interesting and useful to all traders.hope sesha sir and sanchit wont mind.thanks kanna for starting this trade.
regards,
girish
12-Dec 00:04 stoxxx http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_eGXPzSzAg
12-Dec 00:04 mayurnsk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6wqe6UV6C8 chalo mast jhoomo
12-Dec 00:05 stoxxx =))
12-Dec 00:22 mayurnsk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSFrHi7z_ag
12-Dec 00:26 stoxxx http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73RGHHmAjt8 nifty =))
12-Dec 00:30 stoxxx http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX5USg8_1gA
12-Dec 00:35 stoxxx http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbJQT2eDseA OSmile :crying:
12-Dec 00:46 mayurnsk |xx
12-Dec 00:46 sathya999 chalo gn then
12-Dec 00:46 stoxxx http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-12-11/bernard-madoff-son-takes-own-life-in-unnecessary-tragedy-lawyer-says.html , random ..
12-Dec 00:48 stoxxx http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoAXW30mMAg , ok gnite all Smile |xx
12-Dec 00:54 mayurnsk |xx good night all
12-Dec 02:00 seshareddy Cool
12-Dec 02:01 Sanchit :8
12-Dec 02:01 Sanchit Cool
12-Dec 02:06 seshareddy Sanchit : hi
12-Dec 02:06 seshareddy still working
12-Dec 02:07 Sanchit yeah Smile
12-Dec 02:08 seshareddy Sanchit : ok
12-Dec 02:08 Sanchit how bout u sesha sir... backtesting ?
12-Dec 02:08 seshareddy i just got up it became as habit
12-Dec 02:08 seshareddy i have to change this habit
12-Dec 02:09 seshareddy >-)
12-Dec 02:09 Sanchit $-)
12-Dec 02:09 Sanchit money never sleeps .. eh Smile
12-Dec 02:10 Sanchit >)
12-Dec 02:11 seshareddy Sanchit : yday i verified all my succesful friends how they got success only one head line point found that is discilpine
12-Dec 02:11 Sanchit absolutely true!
12-Dec 02:11 Sanchit no shortcuts to it
12-Dec 02:12 seshareddy yesssssss
12-Dec 02:12 seshareddy :-bd
12-Dec 02:13 Sanchit ^Smile^
12-Dec 02:15 seshareddy trendlines rocks always if we draw perfectly i think
12-Dec 02:15 Sanchit how about bb?
12-Dec 02:15 seshareddy almost with general tech +method counter check with trendline always giving good results
12-Dec 02:15 Sanchit or PAR SAR?
12-Dec 02:15 seshareddy BB iam not having grip
12-Dec 02:16 seshareddy PAR SAR is simply great tool
12-Dec 02:16 Sanchit its vice versa for me Smile
12-Dec 02:16 seshareddy SAR told on thursday that friday is mkt up
12-Dec 02:16 seshareddy sanchit |xx
12-Dec 02:17 Sanchit which tf sir?
12-Dec 02:17 seshareddy sar time frame not much imp the speed is imp
12-Dec 02:18 seshareddy you can c the speed from min 15min tf
12-Dec 02:18 Sanchit hmm... guess i need to understand the basics of SAR
12-Dec 02:19 seshareddy sar should not move more than 7 to 10points from one candle to next candle that is 1st indication mkt is going to turn back
12-Dec 02:19 seshareddy if sar movement is not more than 5 points sudden change wont come into picture
12-Dec 02:20 Sanchit but in j charts its like a line.. not dots Surprised
12-Dec 02:20 seshareddy line also shows readings
12-Dec 02:21 seshareddy keep your mouse on line it displays readings right side
12-Dec 02:22 Sanchit yup...
12-Dec 02:23 Sanchit so a trend change was identified in the 10 AM candle?
12-Dec 02:23 Sanchit or on thursday itself?
12-Dec 02:23 seshareddy not trend turn happens then we can take help of fib
12-Dec 02:24 seshareddy yes on thursday itself i know
12-Dec 02:24 seshareddy for example i tell
12-Dec 02:24 seshareddy keep 15min nifty chart
12-Dec 02:24 Sanchit yes sir
12-Dec 02:25 seshareddy 2.30pm candle sar at 5900
12-Dec 02:25 seshareddy 2.45pm candle sar at 5890
12-Dec 02:25 seshareddy 3pm candle at 5875
12-Dec 02:26 seshareddy 3.15pm candle 5858
12-Dec 02:26 seshareddy 3.30pm candle 5839
12-Dec 02:26 seshareddy c the difference on speed
12-Dec 02:26 seshareddy sar is in hurry to give buy signal
12-Dec 02:26 seshareddy speed is more than 15points
12-Dec 02:26 Sanchit got your point now...
12-Dec 02:27 seshareddy on friday at open i taken longs
12-Dec 02:28 Sanchit 3:-O
12-Dec 02:28 Sanchit shesha sir.. u rock!! |xx
12-Dec 02:30 seshareddy Cool
12-Dec 02:30 Sanchit so its still a buy till monday .. right?
12-Dec 02:31 seshareddy yes now we should not beleive sar we need to follow other tech
12-Dec 02:31 seshareddy speed reduced
12-Dec 02:32 seshareddy new week so week pvt changes that may give further clue + week open is imp so waiting for monday open no pos for me
12-Dec 02:33 Sanchit so the speed should not be too fast or too slow?
12-Dec 02:33 seshareddy sanchit yessssssss
12-Dec 02:33 seshareddy if fast change will come
12-Dec 02:33 Sanchit should be in the range of 5-10 points
12-Dec 02:33 seshareddy if slow change wont come fast
12-Dec 02:34 seshareddy below 5 is not imp above 7 to 10 is imp
12-Dec 02:34 seshareddy tgt is next time frame sar
12-Dec 02:35 Sanchit and if we combine it with i chart levels ... we just got a trading system Very Happy
12-Dec 02:35 seshareddy yes
12-Dec 02:36 seshareddy Cool
12-Dec 02:36 Sanchit learnt a new thing today ... thank you!!! Smile
12-Dec 02:36 seshareddy sanchit one of my friend who dont know trading but he minting from trading
12-Dec 02:37 Sanchit Ketangosar told a gr8 strategy as well using bb and adx
12-Dec 02:37 seshareddy just he follows 3day swing on SPOT
12-Dec 02:37 Sanchit a few days ago during the market hrs
12-Dec 02:37 seshareddy BB + adx oh okok
12-Dec 02:38 seshareddy BB parameter you use 20 ?
12-Dec 02:38 Sanchit bb 20+ adx should be above or below both the dmi's
12-Dec 02:38 Sanchit if price touches upper band .. sell
12-Dec 02:38 seshareddy okkkkk
12-Dec 02:39 seshareddy ok
12-Dec 02:39 Sanchit if it touches lower band.. buy
12-Dec 02:39 seshareddy intra time frame or eod
12-Dec 02:39 Sanchit works on both...
12-Dec 02:39 seshareddy thursday lower BAND
12-Dec 02:39 seshareddy ok
12-Dec 02:40 seshareddy min intra timeframe required ?
12-Dec 02:40 Sanchit but on thursday the adx was between the dmi's
12-Dec 02:40 Sanchit check the 5 min tf at open on friday
12-Dec 02:41 Sanchit 940 am candle
12-Dec 02:42 Sanchit was the entry
12-Dec 02:42 seshareddy at 9.40am candle down adx is above than down line
12-Dec 02:42 seshareddy yes yes
12-Dec 02:42 seshareddy that only i am seeing
12-Dec 02:43 Sanchit adx is above both the dmi's
12-Dec 02:43 seshareddy now iam getting picture of this combination BB + adx
12-Dec 02:43 seshareddy yes yes
12-Dec 02:43 seshareddy |xx :-bd
12-Dec 02:44 Sanchit i prefer adx above both the DMI's AND sloping down... Smile
12-Dec 02:44 Sanchit just to avoid any whipsaws
12-Dec 02:44 seshareddy 30min tf also good for this combination
12-Dec 02:45 seshareddy sanchit Cool |xx
12-Dec 02:46 Sanchit thanks to Ketan for this strategy.. =D>
12-Dec 02:46 Sanchit and you for the PAR SAR :-bd
12-Dec 02:47 seshareddy Cool
12-Dec 02:49 seshareddy combinations + counter check will give good releife before action
12-Dec 02:50 Sanchit yup
12-Dec 02:52 seshareddy sanchit this week gann natural numbers i give you check this week how it works ok
12-Dec 02:54 seshareddy WD Gann?s natural numbers which would act as natural support and resistance are :: 5588, 5663, 5739, 5815, 5891, 5968, 6046, 6124, during the week. Cool
12-Dec 02:55 Sanchit hmmm... sure.. will discuss it after the week with you... Smile
12-Dec 02:55 Sanchit sir send me ur email id on fb
12-Dec 02:55 seshareddy just keep eye on this levels this week
12-Dec 02:55 seshareddy seshareddyveluri
12-Dec 02:56 seshareddy one more ichart friend also having good timing knowldge who is not coming to sb his id almost same to your id
12-Dec 02:59 Sanchit -:-
12-Dec 02:59 seshareddy i invite you to my fb group
12-Dec 03:00 seshareddy sanchit ok bye now time up
12-Dec 03:00 Sanchit okkkkkkkkk Smile
12-Dec 03:01 seshareddy we chat tomorow
12-Dec 03:01 Sanchit bye saar .. sleep well.. happy trading %%-
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Post: #8   PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi kanna

nice thread you choosen

from today onwards i make a habit to c this link

it will useful for all reason emotions tech details will come out when live mkt going on

seshareddy Very Happy
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Post: #9   PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi ravi

just iam seeing this link


if any day mkt up open we have to keep eagly eye on prev day high must

if mkt not trading below open or prev day high we should not short

prev day high is the best sup for the market

all shorts sl gone so breakout buy

same reverse if mkt opened down gap open

you can check back test

seshareddy Very Happy
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Post: #10   PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dear sesha sir

thanks for your previous day high low concept. i did some back testing on that day night and around 80% of the time this support holds. On friday i went long at open with stop as candle close in 5tf than previous low. it was saved and just held the longs booked the longs at 90 pts profit.

Laughing Laughing

and thanks for everyone for the kind words.

girish, thank u for capturing this between sesha and sanchi.

Sesha sir, as you told , when SAR is changing very fast the target will be the SAR in next hgher tf. great one. and 5901 is sar in 30min. your observations are just great
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Post: #11   PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi kanna

we can enjoy the perfect gains while sharing the knowledge only

while argument going on we dontknow about our own errors

so we should share knowldge and we need to get best questions then only we can tune each together all methods

this is not a competition business

any how iam happy that you backtested do trading

seshareddy Very Happy
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Post: #12   PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:04 pm    Post subject: A word of thanks Reply with quote

Dear All,

It is really impressive and great going for all of us here in I-Charts. I must say the style and presentation given by all in various threads(newbee, junior and seniors) are mind blowing for all newcomers.
It is really a great initiative and hard work taken to help each other to learn and earn.
I hope some days I-Charts may be listed in Indian Stock market.
Thanks to the moderators & Srikanth sir as well.
May god bless you all.
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Post: #13   PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

opening trade explanition by shesha sir
seshareddy : open 3 types 1.open above yday high 2.open below yday low 3. flat
seshareddy : 1.if mkt opened above yday high means yday high is act as sup if not broken mkt up only
seshareddy : 2.if opened below ydy low means yday low act as good res if not broken down only
seshareddy : 3.flat open needs yday candle if green yday low will give intra buy if red candle yday high will give intra sell

simple and basic points for 1st intra trade
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Post: #14   PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi all

we can use one more small basic point take 3days SPOT eod if mkt closed above 3days high then icharts levels S1 acts good buy every time

if mkt closed below 3days low then icharts levels R1 acts as good sell every time

keeping in view of prev day high or low

seshareddy
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Post: #15   PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sesha sir, it is a very good point. thanks

little busy. not able to be in SB to pick up more. request others to post 24
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