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READING THE LINE [DAY TRADERS MIND] - FUTURES ONLY
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Post: #496   PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

amitagg wrote:
now, shorts would be covering...may be...
and longs entering....maybe

this would be a decisive top if 6300 is broken on downside......but but...since market is up since morning...we only look at chart and play up...until reveral happens....


6357 should be touched and held on monthly closing basis for upmove to sustain....hurdles are slowly getting cleared...

market would give "very good downside" if reversal happens, below 6300
and "trading upside" if above 6350....
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Post: #497   PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sold NF at 6339 stop 6351 target 6323 or lower
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Post: #498   PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TSL to 6345 now
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Post: #499   PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

based on SSPS variant....one buy triggered at 6168...next pending at 6160, 6153, 6145.....overall stop 6110....

short in Dr Reddy at 2645 future levels...based on dynamite munda yesterday's chart....and yesterday's heavy volume indecisive bar.....support at 2630.....have to hold and carry forward for few days since an 'iffy' stock....
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Post: #500   PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

booked 6186 first lot bt at 6168 [19 points].....dont trust any uptrend in downtrends [have seen this many many times]....lower buy orders open.....shall sell at 6210 region if it goes up
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Post: #501   PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

amitagg wrote:
based on SSPS variant....one buy triggered at 6168...next pending at 6160, 6153, 6145.....overall stop 6110....

short in Dr Reddy at 2645 future levels...based on dynamite munda yesterday's chart....and yesterday's heavy volume indecisive bar.....support at 2630.....have to hold and carry forward for few days since an 'iffy' stock....


first bt 6166 sqd 6186...
modified next buy from 6160 to 6155....support at 6142 spot....
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Post: #502   PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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amitagg wrote:
based on SSPS variant....one buy triggered at 6168...next pending at 6160, 6153, 6145.....overall stop 6110....

short in Dr Reddy at 2645 future levels...based on dynamite munda yesterday's chart....and yesterday's heavy volume indecisive bar.....support at 2630.....have to hold and carry forward for few days since an 'iffy' stock....


first bt 6166 sqd 6186...
modified next buy from 6160 to 6155....support at 6142 spot....


dr squared for intra day since market at intra supports for Rs 15 profit....

6155/51 hit/bt = 2nd 3rd gone bt for 6153
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Post: #503   PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3 lots gone at 6150 average out of 4 trades today [ 1 squared]....also sold 6150 call against the NF buy for @50...stop 6110
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Post: #504   PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if 6140 holds for some time as a very very heavy support region....

- if NF would be stagnant but sold call would give profit....
- if NF rises then time decay shall kill option premium for sold call so profit in NF [though lower than naked NF buy]
- if nf falls to 6110 then sold call would hedge the NF loss.......

volatile moves at 6110 and 6200 would be difficult to manage.....exit has to be proper for overall trade management

.....better to balance NF with options in uncertain markets [and bear hedging cost / lesser profits]
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Post: #505   PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

amitagg wrote:
if 6140 holds for some time as a very very heavy support region....

- if NF would be stagnant but sold call would give profit....
- if NF rises then time decay shall kill option premium for sold call so profit in NF [though lower than naked NF buy]
- if nf falls to 6110 then sold call would hedge the NF loss.......

volatile moves at 6110 and 6200 would be difficult to manage.....exit has to be proper for overall trade management

.....better to balance NF with options in uncertain markets [and bear hedging cost / lesser profits]


buying options is best for last 3 days of jan as premium is not much. It's as good as buying/selling NF.
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Post: #506   PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is Rs 50 for a 6150 call (sold)...by buying NF and selling call at same strike price...I need not bother about "one" time wrong directional move...

Had I bought 6150 call...I could have lost Rs 50 in case of down move in straigt line (considering very bearish mood)

If i had bought put....I would be again risking Rs 50 more over 2-3 days...

Now the profit matrix is O loss in case of
- single move down to 6110 and any amount lower (shall exit future) (and I can buy 6200 call to hedge open short 6150 call for minor amount when market at 6100)
- profit of Rs 30 (40-10) in case of above 6200 expiry...
- can book NF around Rs 40 profit if goes up to 6185-6190 (current) and hold call or after event (watching) can sell further OTM call at 6250 if market around 6200...
- sideways move shall be again profitable between 6130-6200.....

I can trade future levels more precisely with options (hedging) ..without judging the "direction of move" ...since even buying options (either as puts or calls would be costlier and involve predicting direction....not I can work with a "range"...just speaking like a beginner...
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Post: #507   PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in general, writing options always has a much higher success ratio.
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Post: #508   PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

5950-5973 can be the next support in few weeks for following reasons:

i) bullish gartley being completed with point d at 5973-6016 region [attached some weeks back]
ii) triple top target 6350-6150-5950
iii) 61.8 % from 5700-6415 is 5973
iv) breakout area to 6142 in gap formation
v) AB=CD target : (C) 6360 minus [(A)6415-6030(B)]=5975 [note that C also took 3 wave formation with c at a itself at 6360...]

buying to resume at any time around / below 6000.....for targets 6500+
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Post: #509   PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

amitagg wrote:
3 lots gone at 6150 average out of 4 trades today [ 1 squared]....also sold 6150 call against the NF buy for @50...stop 6110


exited Rs 13 profit after broekerage at 6265 [3 lots] holding "sold" call of 6150
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Post: #510   PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

inability to cross 6166 spot and move down below 6150 would be first shorting opportunity...if it comes by....resistances at 6174/6187....buy only above 6190...
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