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sumesh_sol
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Post: #631   PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:53 am    Post subject: BHARTIARTL..5TF Reply with quote

BHARTIARTL..5TF
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385 appears to be temporary support here..
Please enter only on CC (5tf) below 385

SL - 388



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Post: #632   PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bearish WW, CIPLA - 60 mins... Rolling Eyes

Sumesh, can you confirm if these can be traded when the market is going up?

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Post: #633   PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ravi_S wrote:
Bearish WW, CIPLA - 60 mins... Rolling Eyes

Sumesh, can you confirm if these can be traded when the market is going up?

Regards
Ravi


Ravi_S wrote:
Bearish WW, CIPLA - 60 mins... Rolling Eyes

Sumesh, can you confirm if these can be traded when the market is going up?

Regards
Ravi


Hi Ravi,

Market is strong no doubt, but it can change its gear anytime we all know with our experience.. Now that is where I always insist on price itself to show signs of reversal...

For this, if I am convinced about the setup, I generally check for ema/price level where after making point 5, price is stopping.. In this case it appears to be 285.5, which is also 8 ema incidentally.. So , I would have probably shorted half qty at 10:00am candle close as it was close within channel.. So even if SL was hit, my loss would be less. Rest half qty I would have shorted at close below support area, so my odds of success increases..

You can take your call..

Regards,
Sumesh

Now, this is how I trade, you can choose your style
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Post: #634   PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SBIN, Bearish WW, 60 Mins

The setup is in the making... So we will wait for a close below the TL to take position.

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Post: #635   PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this may be - ww in case close below UTL. tg 4938-29 appr.


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Post: #636   PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SBIN-1m_15min -ww has been completed. One can take entry with 2010 as SL


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Post: #637   PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

adsingh101 wrote:
SBIN-1m_15min -ww has been completed. One can take entry with 2010 as SL


Hi AD,
Price is taking good support at 2000 level.. My suggestion is to get at least one CC below this on 15tf..
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Post: #638   PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sumesh_sol wrote:
adsingh101 wrote:
SBIN-1m_15min -ww has been completed. One can take entry with 2010 as SL


Hi AD,
Price is taking good support at 2000 level.. My suggestion is to get at least one CC below this on 15tf..

Thanks Sumesh for being there. Smile
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Post: #639   PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peace69 wrote:
this may be - ww in case close below UTL. tg 4938-29 appr.


- ww patern void.
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Post: #640   PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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RK , also have a look at 15TF WW on NF. Giving Bullish implication.
But considering current downfall, will it materialise? let's see
( i am not able to attach chart.Pt 1,2,3,4 have formed and 5 is awaiting/forming)

Sorry friends, i overlooked one important point. ie. point 4 is below point 1.
once again sorry for wrong posting. Pls discard above mentioned set up

I posted this Bullish WW on monday morning , but immediately withdrew it as i recalled Mr. Muthuswamy's post to JJM sir stating
Quote:
-'The NF 15min chart of 12072011 given by JJM is not a WW because
1. Point 4 should lie between 1 and 2

2. When the price and the channel are both trending downwards , the line 1-4 should be upwards.


But later i found on one website named Forexmt4 an article written by Linda Raschke mam.I'm posting releavant part of it-

'Also on the best waves point 4 will be higher than point 1 for Buy set up and lower than 1 for sell set up.This ensures that absolute runaway market conditions do not exist'

From above, i feel that point 4 <1 is allowed but it's NOT A BEST wave to trade.
Same was observed in attached 15TF WW and it crossed target easily.

Now, experts pls DON'T MISUNDERSTAND me. I am also NOT DESPARATE to try such inferior set ups. My interest is ONLY ACADEMIC one.
I have seen some posts of JJM where 4<1 for Buy set up. But then saw above mentioned
Mr. Muthuswamy's post dated 19jul. So can expert's pls clarify about validity of pt 4<1 for Buy set up?

regds
Arjun



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Post: #641   PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update: Rcom hit Stop loss on september 30th( in the back drop of possible prosecution of Anil Ambani by CBI with regard 2 G scam). Now continuation ww in the making, will post once it's realised.

RCOM Weekly Chart +WW formation.
Expected Time Arrival is August 2nd week 2012
Expected Price Arrival is 143.50 .SL for this entry can be recent low 71

You can also find an earlier +WW in which EPA reached very fast, well before ETA.
Can we expect the same speed in target achievement this time too?!



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Post: #642   PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arjun!

This is for you.
Here point 4 is below 1 and the pattern failed .



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Post: #643   PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rk_a2003 wrote:
Arjun!

This is for you.
Here point 4 is below 1 and the pattern failed .


thx RK,
i am aware that pattern posted by me have some drawbacks.( pt 5 has not given false break out).
I am aware that probabilty of failure is high in such pattern.
As said earlier, my query is academic one as i came across that article yday. And coincidentally, i also sighted example of it.

rgds
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Post: #644   PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arjun20 wrote:
Arjun20 wrote:


RK , also have a look at 15TF WW on NF. Giving Bullish implication.
But considering current downfall, will it materialise? let's see
( i am not able to attach chart.Pt 1,2,3,4 have formed and 5 is awaiting/forming)

Sorry friends, i overlooked one important point. ie. point 4 is below point 1.
once again sorry for wrong posting. Pls discard above mentioned set up

I posted this Bullish WW on monday morning , but immediately withdrew it as i recalled Mr. Muthuswamy's post to JJM sir stating
Quote:
-'The NF 15min chart of 12072011 given by JJM is not a WW because
1. Point 4 should lie between 1 and 2

2. When the price and the channel are both trending downwards , the line 1-4 should be upwards.


But later i found on one website named Forexmt4 an article written by Linda Raschke mam.I'm posting releavant part of it-

'Also on the best waves point 4 will be higher than point 1 for Buy set up and lower than 1 for sell set up.This ensures that absolute runaway market conditions do not exist'

From above, i feel that point 4 <1 is allowed but it's NOT A BEST wave to trade.
Same was observed in attached 15TF WW and it crossed target easily.

Now, experts pls DON'T MISUNDERSTAND me. I am also NOT DESPARATE to try such inferior set ups. My interest is ONLY ACADEMIC one.
I have seen some posts of JJM where 4<1 for Buy set up. But then saw above mentioned
Mr. Muthuswamy's post dated 19jul. So can expert's pls clarify about validity of pt 4<1 for Buy set up?

regds
Arjun


hi arjun. u've rightly raised query 'bout succeeding ww even if pt 4 </> pt 1. but it's seer co incidence if such happens. when trade ww, more probable success ratio on trading the patterns fufilling the requirement then trade on exceptional pattern. same with break & re enter TL. plenty of ww patterns to reach tg even if not meet such requirment. but again, more probability to profitability on meeting all/most of the requirments of pattern then exceptional ones. if it meets tg, it may be considered as just co incidence & not as per pattern. just my view. regards.
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Post: #645   PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats a very desirable quality Arjun!
Probing everything in a constructive way.
Trying to undrstand the underlying dynamics of each phenomena ( Pattern)...
In the process mastering it.Keep it up!

Arjun20 wrote:
rk_a2003 wrote:
Arjun!

This is for you.
Here point 4 is below 1 and the pattern failed .


thx RK,
i am aware that pattern posted by me have some drawbacks.( pt 5 has not given false break out).
I am aware that probabilty of failure is high in such pattern.
As said earlier, my query is academic one as i came across that article yday. And coincidentally, i also sighted example of it.

rgds
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