Home
Option Tools
Services Offered
My Services
Contact Us
Charts
Charts (Premium)
Chart Watch
JCharts (EOD)
JCharts(EOD-COMM)
HCharts (EOD)
HCharts (EOD-COMM)
Forum
Stock Lists
Screener (EOD)
Screener (EOD-Comm)
Breadth Charts
Calculators
Education
Links
FAQs
Advertise Here
Charts (Old)
Login Form





Lost Password?
No account yet? Register
  iCharts Discussions

 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Saint's 60minflow
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 11, 12, 13  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    iCharts Discussions Forum Index -> Strategies
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Saint's 60minflow
kapilanand
White Belt
White Belt


Joined: 31 Dec 2008
Posts: 4

Post: #46   PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stockhunter wrote:
Hi Kapil,

Welcome to this thread and thanks for sharing your views. If I can take this liberty, may I request you to help the traders here like MJ is currently doing through this thread by probably starting a new thread on 30 mins miniflow and 10 mins ambush system?

Apologies in advance if if you do not have time however it will be a great service to icharts trader community if someone can start these threads separately as different traders having different trading horizons. I think the intraday tarders here would love to see these new threads.

MJ - any thoughts from you on these two intraday systems?

Cheers
SH


Thanks SH for the kind words. It would be difficult for me to start a thread on this at present, as I am slightly tied up with the TS site where we follow these methods.

Kapil
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Stockhunter
White Belt
White Belt


Joined: 10 Jun 2008
Posts: 193

Post: #47   PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No problems Kapil, I think 60 mins method is enough to learn and make money ... thanks anyways and good luck !

Cheers
SH
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Stockhunter
White Belt
White Belt


Joined: 10 Jun 2008
Posts: 193

Post: #48   PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

musicjunkie wrote:
Nothing much today. Added above the 5min bar.
So we are at Initial position +1Add

MJ


MJ - new SL?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
musicjunkie1
White Belt
White Belt


Joined: 24 Mar 2009
Posts: 8

Post: #49   PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keeping it at days low, as of now. Waiting for a biggish bar to trigger 2 bar. If we have a gap situation then will use the gap rules as usual.

The intraday strategies are good as well. As Kapil mentioned you can read the rules on the TS website and we can continue to discuss the methodology in practice here.

MJ
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
musicjunkie
White Belt
White Belt


Joined: 23 Mar 2007
Posts: 70

Post: #50   PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reversed to shorts at the 5min - Filter.
Now short....and holding..

Roughly 300pts gain in that upmove, do remember that the actual position was bigger since the risk on this long trade was small....so money-wise bigger gain then those 2-3 losses posted before..

MJ
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ConMan
White Belt
White Belt


Joined: 06 Aug 2008
Posts: 344

Post: #51   PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear MJ

Short at what level. What would be the SL. I am not able to open icharts at office today.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
musicjunkie
White Belt
White Belt


Joined: 23 Mar 2007
Posts: 70

Post: #52   PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stops at days high as usual + filter Smile

MJ
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
saikat
White Belt
White Belt


Joined: 31 Mar 2008
Posts: 317

Post: #53   PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:49 pm    Post subject: hi Reply with quote

Hi MJ,

Good that atleast now I can crosscheck my understanding of this strategy from your thread Smile My PC had long become anti-TJ site Sad never opens.

Have you shifted your SL to 2 pm candle high + filter, now?
Though 3 pm candle is higher - but it might be (2 pm one) considered as new PH...

Though personally I would like the SL to be kept still at day's high - but where is it as per system now?

Regards,

Saikat
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Stockhunter
White Belt
White Belt


Joined: 10 Jun 2008
Posts: 193

Post: #54   PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

..or have you reversed your position due to EOD reversal?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
amitrajangulati
White Belt
White Belt


Joined: 27 Jan 2009
Posts: 56

Post: #55   PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi! mj,

Just went through the shoutbox archives of yesterday (06-Apr-09) where sh checked with you whether you reversed your position from longs to shorts at 3285 - filter.

The low of the 1st bar in the 5minute chart is 3246.95. Could you please clarify why 3285?

Thanks and regards,
Amit

P.S. -> SH, if you could also please help, I would be grateful
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
saikat
White Belt
White Belt


Joined: 31 Mar 2008
Posts: 317

Post: #56   PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi Amit/SH,

Let me try to answer this...
NF 1st min candle low was 3285.55. Where do you see 3246? Confused

SH --> the short was based on day's first candle low. EOD reversal (even if u call it reversal) was still below that shorting point and even the LTP was below last PH ie 2 pm high 3277. So as per me 'eod reversal' rule not to be applied. Rolling Eyes

MJ --> Pl confirm Smile

Regards,

Saikat

amitrajangulati wrote:
Hi! mj,

Just went through the shoutbox archives of yesterday (06-Apr-09) where sh checked with you whether you reversed your position from longs to shorts at 3285 - filter.

The low of the 1st bar in the 5minute chart is 3246.95. Could you please clarify why 3285?

Thanks and regards,
Amit

P.S. -> SH, if you could also please help, I would be grateful
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
musicjunkie
White Belt
White Belt


Joined: 23 Mar 2007
Posts: 70

Post: #57   PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, lets go over the trade yesterday.

We were long the previous day with 1 Add, we get a gap up. First wee look whether the gap is away from the past 2-3 days range. Criteria met yesterday.
Second we want a bearsih 5 min bar, Criteria met.

We move our stops to the low of the 5min bar, i.e 3285-Filter. For gap days our filter is slightly bigger, just to make sure its a strong move down after a huge Gap up.
Price reaches our order and we exit longs and reverse to shorts at the same time.

Now our stops are at the high of the day. We wait and do nothing. Later in the day we have a new pivot high, but we need to wait for new lows which comes 3pm bar. We would have also added in this bar however filter saves us from the add.
Now as soon as we get new lows we move stops to the new pivot high which is the 3pm bar. No waiting for another bar to complete,straight away move stops.

Hope the above is clear.

Now, For the EOD reversal query. We use EOD reversals ONLY on pivots. Did we reverse on a pivot today? NO! therefore we remain short. The only way we reverse to longs is either a PH crack or we get a gap up the next day and we reverse at the high of the 5min bar.

Please feel free to ask any other questions/doubts....Right now limiting the discussion to only Nifty, as time progresses and everyone here becomes comfortable we can discuss better flowing stocks.

MJ


Last edited by musicjunkie on Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:32 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
musicjunkie
White Belt
White Belt


Joined: 23 Mar 2007
Posts: 70

Post: #58   PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great answer Saikat....Keep up the good work.

MJ
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Stockhunter
White Belt
White Belt


Joined: 10 Jun 2008
Posts: 193

Post: #59   PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

musicjunkie wrote:
Absolutely correct SH,
However there is one rule called the EOD reversal. Suppose we take a long as a PH breaks, near market closing price trades BELOW Pivot high, we revert to orinignal positions, which is shorts in this case.
Happy that these situations are coming up, So we reversed to longs yesterday but as price traded below PH we are back to shorts.

Gap up today I think, Lets see what happens to our shorts now.

Most welcome Eagle-eyes, Great to see you here

SJ, hope you got my pm....

Regards,
MJ


MJ - thanks, understood all till now but the EOD reversal it seems.

As per above post where you reversed to shorts from longs.. you reversed because at EOD the traded price was below the new pivot high..

applying the same logic to your shorts yesterday.. when we made a 3 PM new pivot low... we started trading above it so why shouldn't it qualify as a reversal .. like it did in the earlier case?

Thanks MJ - this might be a stupid question but better ask than assume!

Cheers
SH
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
amitrajangulati
White Belt
White Belt


Joined: 27 Jan 2009
Posts: 56

Post: #60   PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi!

Attached is a 5 minute chart for your reference. Was referring to the 1st candle of the day marked with a red arrow.

- Amit



Snap1.png
 Description:
 Filesize:  6.57 KB
 Viewed:  1457 Time(s)

Snap1.png


Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    iCharts Discussions Forum Index -> Strategies All times are GMT + 5.5 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 11, 12, 13  Next
Page 4 of 13

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You can attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group

@MEMBER OF PROJECT HONEY POT
Spam Harvester Protection Network
provided by Unspam