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SH 30 minutes swinging yorker method - Nifty (Alchemist)
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Post: #346   PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 3:14 pm    Post subject: 5-200 CO Reply with quote

5-200 CROSSED PL. SEE THE CHART[img][/img]


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Post: #347   PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 3:30 pm    Post subject: Re: 5-200 CO Reply with quote

vinodgogia wrote:
5-200 CROSSED PL. SEE THE CHART[img][/img]

Strange. My Chart Shows like



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Post: #348   PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vinod,

After cross over the low needs to break.....that never happened.
Pls read thru the initial pages to get clarity.
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Post: #349   PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deepakms wrote:
Vinod,

After cross over the low needs to break.....that never happened.
Pls read thru the initial pages to get clarity.


Deepak .What does your chat show . Does CO happened ?
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Post: #350   PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

5 and 200 EMA crossover not done today.second chart is OK.
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Post: #351   PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naresh,

My charts matches with the one posted by Vinod.
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Post: #352   PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:29 pm    Post subject: 5-200 Reply with quote

Deepak i have gone through initial posts and not found that entry is to be taken if cross over happen wait for low to enter. I have seen Alchemist post sent to PVRtrader saying that it should be entered on cross over to gain more profit. Can you please post the (or send the reference date)entery rules where to get myself corrected. Thanks.
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Post: #353   PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vinod,

details below.....this is page on page 5/6, pls read thru.

Alchemist wrote:
sumesh_sol wrote:
Alchemist wrote:
Hi - you are right, small crossover not visible to naked eye unless you zoom. I dont know how and why I missed it. It was sell at 8607 and square off at 8632

Cheers
SH


I have a couple of observation , I may be wrong..
A crossover looks more convincing when it is a clear crossover, like u said correctly, it was not clearly visible by naked eye. So, in my opinion in such cases we should wait for a clear crossover , it may mean loosing few points, but I feel it is worth..
Secondly, after a crossover candle close, trade should be taken only if high/low of the candle is breached as we are trying to catch the momentum created by crossover... Many times , price reverses when such crossover happens. High/Low break will avoid such situations..

Regards,


Sumesh Sol - you are right, and I like your suggestion of entering/exiting when highs/lows of the crossover candle is taken out.

pvktrade - this is the new filter we are adding to avoid some whipsaws.

cheers
SH
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Post: #354   PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:08 pm    Post subject: 5-200 Reply with quote

Thanks deepak. i have gone through the below message.


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Post: #332 PostPosted: 26 Jan 2015 22:58 Post subject: Reply with quote
Hello Alchemist,

We want to make mechanical trading system. Per rule 5 ema cross 200 ema from below in 30 min candle then we go long in next candle.
Hence
Bullish cross 14 Jan 2015 15:30 candle (NS)
Buy 8468 NF 2 lots 15 Jan 2015 as NF opens

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pvktrade wrote:
Trade 1
Bullish cross 14 Jan 2015 15:30 candle (NS)
Buy 8468 NF 2 lots 15 Jan 2015 as NF opens
50 pts booked 1 lot 15 jan 2015 14:30 candle 8518
2nd lot going on


Hello PVK,

Not sure why you have taken 15th Jan opening price as the entry point. The entry point is 14th Jan 15:30 candle close when the crossover happened ie at around 8315 NF. If the crossover is happening on the last candle of the day, we should enter just around 3.28 or 3.29 and not wait for the next morning candle. This is to ensure we catch any gap ups.

So the second lot is 500+ points in profit now. In any case, if someone missed entry on 14th, even then second lot is 350+ points in profit.

Trailing SL rule to lock in profits

To lock in profits, use 5/34 EMA bearish crossover to exit the longs. To re-enter, use 5/34 EMA bullish crossover again keeping the recent low as the new TSL. This is provided that 5EMA is above 34 as well as 200 EMA.

Will add more to this strategy as the trade develops in coming days.

Cheers
SH

Alchemist Sir, Thanks for addition more ingredients.
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Post: #355   PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vinodgogia - crossover plus candle's lows to be taken out will trigger shorts. Today we did not have any crossover today, leave aside the lows being taken out.

Your chart seems to be trade tiger which will never show you correct position as you need to load atleast 200 days of 30 minutes data to show correct position of 200 EMA.

I would recommend you subscribe to Icharts, its a small price to pay to get the right signals.

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Post: #356   PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deepk ji
If you see last 20 days chart with 30 min. Time frame you will correct picture. But if you take less than 20 days in your chart. You will get wrong picture.
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Post: #357   PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

5&200 EMA crossover done at 1230 candle. 5 EMA 8359 and 200 EMA 8363. Low is 8346. Senior pls confirm.
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Post: #358   PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Short taken as low made was 8335. Any body taken or afraid to take as wold market in green. But I think go as per system. Profit or loss is secondary.
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Post: #359   PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajit602 wrote:
Short taken as low made was 8335. Any body taken or afraid to take as wold market in green. But I think go as per system. Profit or loss is secondary.


Not yet what is stop as per strategy
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Post: #360   PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

amitagg wrote:
ajit602 wrote:
Short taken as low made was 8335. Any body taken or afraid to take as wold market in green. But I think go as per system. Profit or loss is secondary.


Not yet what is stop as per strategy

It will be 5& 200 bullish crossover. Or u think something different. Or any cancel close above 8368.
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