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SH 30 minutes swinging yorker method - Nifty (Alchemist)

snehil2010
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Post: #406

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 3:10 pm Post subject:

Hello Folks,

I have been preparing an Excel sheet for this strategy. Its near to completion, will share in this thread once done. Attached is the snapshot of that excel sheet.

Suggestions welcome.

Thanks,
Snehil

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ajit602
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Post: #407

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:04 pm Post subject:

snehil2010 wrote:

Thanks Snehil. As you are doing good work for us who do not know much about excel sheet. Thanks.

Alchemist
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Post: #408 Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:18 pm Post subject:

Hi, Good attempt but truly I couldn't understand an iota of what this spreadsheet is showing ... Cheers SH

amitagg
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Post: #409 Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:27 pm Post subject:

Market above 8530 tomorrow shall give an additional buy signal. SL for 31st buy was protected today( although price moved below 200ema). Additonal buy can happen in morning. If not pierced a sell below 8480 May trigger subject to entry below crossover candle 5/200 ema 30tf

AMBY
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Post: #410 Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:26 pm Post subject:

THANK YOU.

snehil2010
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Post: #411

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:07 am Post subject:

Alchemist wrote:

Hi,

Good attempt but truly I couldn't understand an iota of what this spreadsheet is showing ...

Cheers
SH

Hi Alchemist,

I'll explain everything properly when I'll release the final version of excel sheet. If you are familiar with Excel based trading tools it wont be difficult for you.

Thanks,
Snehil

SukhiAatma
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Joined: 21 May 2015
Posts: 3

Post: #412

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:38 pm Post subject: 5/34 crossover and SL

amitagg wrote:

Market above 8530 tomorrow shall give an additional buy signal. SL for 31st buy was protected today( although price moved below 200ema). Additonal buy can happen in morning. If not pierced a sell below 8480 May trigger subject to entry below crossover candle 5/200 ema 30tf

Hi Alchemist,

Yesterday there was clear 5/34 bearish crossover on NS @30 TF. NS did bounce back and again there was bullish crossover with both 5&34 ema above 200 ema. The 5/34 bearish crossover clearly indicated to exit the longs and we did re-enter when 5/34 bullish crossover. however, I read other members saying that SL was protected and you also said NF Bullish Yorker continue in SB. can you please explain.

Thanks
Sukhi Aatma

amitagg
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Joined: 01 Oct 2013
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Post: #413

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: 5/34 crossover and SL

SukhiAatma wrote:

amitagg wrote:

Yes u are right. Alchemist will clarifty and clear the doubts.

Infact I only earlier once pointed to Sumesh Sol etc in some other post that entry should be below low or high of crossover candle.....this I experienced from my crude oil trades.........then Alchemist had amended or modified the system......this was not the trigger for SH / Alchemist strategies last year.....atleast for entries this is important.....for Sls also I would believe the same...... SO I considered SAR trade with 5/200 "confirmation crossover" as stop....... I would be wrong therefore simply as per rules (in not considering 5/34 exit).

(Another reason is 5/34 can be after an uptrending thrust has happended after 5/200 crossover to protect profits, in case of sideways move, we may allow the trade to move, and hence consider 5/200 crossover which I did this is not as per system but we can modify as "trade management" experience )

Since my other systems were in buy, I would protect the sold 8500 PUT (bullish trade) and booked the profits today , basis Umesh's random profit booking comment. Struggle at multiple points was suggesting a consolidation. Future likewise I made profits above 8503 spot yesterday and booked near closing.... Since I had 100 points premium safety in sold PUTs, I could ride the fall of 100 points yesterday....without triggering the stop since it was a BUY above JT 8440 level...and some other indicators....so did not want to exit on 5/34 crossover.

It has been pointed earlier that........Low of crossover candle/ 5/34 crossover..... etc are possible options for SL...

Alchemist
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Post: #414

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:56 pm Post subject: Re: 5/34 crossover and SL

SukhiAatma wrote:

amitagg wrote:

Hi,

a mere crossover is not enough, we need to wait for highs/lows to be taken out of the crossover candle before entering/exiting trades.

Yesterday 5/34 bearish cross happened however the lows of the crossover candle was not breached hence longs continued.

Cheers
SH

Alchemist
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Post: #415

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:59 pm Post subject:

snehil2010 wrote:

Alchemist wrote:

Hi,

Good attempt but truly I couldn't understand an iota of what this spreadsheet is showing ...

Cheers
SH

Hi Alchemist,

I'll explain everything properly when I'll release the final version of excel sheet. If you are familiar with Excel based trading tools it wont be difficult for you.

Thanks,
Snehil

Thanks, look forward to it.

Cheers
SH

SukhiAatma
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Joined: 21 May 2015
Posts: 3

Post: #416

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 10:53 pm Post subject: Re: 5/34 crossover and SL

Alchemist wrote:

SukhiAatma wrote:

amitagg wrote:

Hi Alchemist,

Yeah.. that was one point I missed and forgot all together. Thanks for the input.

However, on the recent backtest ( just visual) I notice that both entry and exit are 20-40 away because of the breach confirmation of the crossover candle.

Thanks
Sukhi Aatma

anusantosh
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Joined: 19 Jun 2011
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Post: #417 Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:37 pm Post subject: Confirmed?

Is 5-34 EMA crossover confirmed for present long to exit?

amitagg
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Post: #418

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: Confirmed?

anusantosh wrote:

Is 5-34 EMA crossover confirmed for present long to exit?

Only speaking for fresh short entry, it is yet to trigger

vids
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Post: #419

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 9:56 pm Post subject: Re: Confirmed?

anusantosh wrote:

Is 5-34 EMA crossover confirmed for present long to exit?

For longs to exit - today's 15:30 candle low needs to be taken-out.

ajit602
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Joined: 11 Sep 2012
Posts: 370

Post: #420 Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:53 pm Post subject:

Position taken. Short

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