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veerappan
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Post: #121  Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:42 am Post subject: |
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| yashrahul wrote: | | veerappan wrote: | | yashrahul wrote: | | veerappan wrote: | nifty fut speaking... my resting time is over... 6412 now... i want to go to 6ooo... c u guys bye bye... c u later...  |
I am waiting with you... |
intra boys got 37 pts? |
getting only 4 to 5 points in options  ..intra boys lucky |
yes dear options will not move fast... bcoz time value is there... we r wasting time... but in stock market time is valued... what a pitty...
guys i may be wrong... for me ... every thing to be on selling but positional... every thing....sl for this ... according nf ways... 6522... taken out cut all the stocks pe on nf pe on bnf ... nf bnf... like this... multi billionaire belty billionaire can do this... or maxi maxi sl 6540... that is 6522+18 pts....
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singh.ravee
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| Post: #122 Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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veerappan hi
what happen to ur chennai express. has its tyres got punctured or someone stole fuel from its tank. why its not moving dear.
be realistic when u give targets. pls understand i m not challenging ur 5555 or 4444 target. it may come. i m saying only this much that give targets which ppl can understand. at 6300, if i talk of 5555 or 4444, its vague as per me. however if i say 6000 or 6050 or 6100, most will understand.
these days, even ur vague targets fail to create any sensation. one fine gap up can sweep ur chennai express like kejriwaal did in delhi
be reasonable
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pkholla
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| Post: #123 Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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| singh.ravee wrote: | veerappan hi
what happen to ur chennai express. has its tyres got punctured or someone stole fuel from its tank. why its not moving dear.
be realistic when u give targets. pls understand i m not challenging ur 5555 or 4444 target. it may come. i m saying only this much that give targets which ppl can understand. at 6300, if i talk of 5555 or 4444, its vague as per me. however if i say 6000 or 6050 or 6100, most will understand.
these days, even ur vague targets fail to create any sensation. one fine gap up can sweep ur chennai express like kejriwaal did in delhi
be reasonable rgds |
Sidetracked! Engine removed for servicing, Prakash Holla
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niknish
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| Post: #124 Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:33 pm Post subject: Shall I Start My Journey............. |
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| Fully agree with Pkholla & Singh.Ravee, we expect useful things but it is a distraction rather than a meaningful post, be reasonable & be serious or how to see if it is only fun? such continuous posts ( starting journey but when?) are more damaging not at all useful, may happen or may not as of now but wonder how to use such a wisdom ? |
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s.muthuswamy
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| Post: #125 Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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Newton's first law states that every body continues to be in state of rest or of uniform motion in a straight line unless acted on by external forces.
A person gives his opinion on the market based on the information available to him at that time. Now it is acted on by the external force "Four states assembly results" and so the change of state has occured.
How can that person be blamed?
Market behaviour is not an exact science to be studied by mathematical formulae. |
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veerappan
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| Post: #126 Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:46 pm Post subject: Re: Shall I Start My Journey............. |
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| niknish wrote: | | Fully agree with Pkholla & Singh.Ravee, we expect useful things but it is a distraction rather than a meaningful post, be reasonable & be serious or how to see if it is only fun? such continuous posts ( starting journey but when?) are more damaging not at all useful, may happen or may not as of now but wonder how to use such a wisdom ? |
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first attempt it gave 249 pts what u did ?
and have u read continuosly postings... guys its not for you to give your opinions....or blame... if u need u can take or dont c the forum on veeras topics... no critics not allowed .... bcoz i dont want to grow ... bcoz of critics growth is there.. but personally i dont want to grow on knowledge basis... not interested also... if u need just follow... its not suitable for u then please avoid veeras topics and dont comment also.... better avoid...
is it clear... dont reply also ....its not for u ... for my silent followers i am posting... it ends...  ...
singravee and pkholla better open a separate topic and just if u need u can post your views... its better....bcoz i never encourage criticism and critics... even though if i am wrong also i never allow... bcoz i behave and i want to be like hitlor...let it be wrong also...
i am not a teacher first...
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paa
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| Post: #127 Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:51 am Post subject: |
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There are different opinion always. I cant understand why we always want to prove others wrong.
Veeru always talk of stop loss and discipline as well.
This time also Veeru given 200+ points and the trade given profit even trailing stop loss hit.
Veeru, please don't be distracted by criticism. It is good for us to improve ourselves. Please keep doing your good work!
Regards
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sankan_77
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| Post: #128 Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:39 am Post subject: Re: Shall I Start My Journey............. |
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| veerappan wrote: | | niknish wrote: | | Fully agree with Pkholla & Singh.Ravee, we expect useful things but it is a distraction rather than a meaningful post, be reasonable & be serious or how to see if it is only fun? such continuous posts ( starting journey but when?) are more damaging not at all useful, may happen or may not as of now but wonder how to use such a wisdom ? |
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first attempt it gave 249 pts what u did ?
and have u read continuosly postings... guys its not for you to give your opinions....or blame... if u need u can take or dont c the forum on veeras topics... no critics not allowed .... bcoz i dont want to grow ... bcoz of critics growth is there.. but personally i dont want to grow on knowledge basis... not interested also... if u need just follow... its not suitable for u then please avoid veeras topics and dont comment also.... better avoid...
is it clear... dont reply also ....its not for u ... for my silent followers i am posting... it ends... ...
singravee and pkholla better open a separate topic and just if u need u can post your views... its better....bcoz i never encourage criticism and critics... even though if i am wrong also i never allow... bcoz i behave and i want to be like hitlor...let it be wrong also...
i am not a teacher first...
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I do not understand why these posts from Mr Veerappan need to be criticized. In fact it may be a big value addition for thousands who wish to get some idea about what experienced minds think. An experience of 15 years is not some thing a beginner can gain instantly in spite of his intelligence , effort or dedication. There is nothing to replace sheer experience in stock market.
Now, market is always uncertain to a great extent . No one can predict its path fully. It always follow zig -zag and many times it reverses and go against. So the basic idea used there is stop losses. Now I can clearly see that Mr Veerappan always provide what he think is the stop losses for the move he forsee. That is he is clearly saying what one need to do if it goes against you and when to exit . So what is the confusion..?
For example , consdier this thread . He started this thread i believe on the day after Diwali and predicted that nifty will go down frm that point . Now if you sit back take your charts and analyse you can see that it went down almost 200-250 points with out any major hiccups .Now is it not useful ..? I would think it was.
And if you are in market for at least a few months you will know for sure that market do not go in one direction for more than a few days. And there will be counter moves , which you can make profit from too. This is the way market is. If anyone expects 100% predictable and risk free market moves in my humble opinion he doesn't know about markets and is not fit for entering in markets. They are advised to quit from markets and save their hard earned money.
Market is for those who can bear uncertainty and take calculated risks. And for those people with discipline the post by Mr Veerappan will be immense value . It is up to an individual to factor in the information along with other possibilities coupled with stop losses .
It is common knowledge that in the case of major major events like elections, wars , natural calamities, financial collapse any thing can happen and when you see these events before you one can stay out of markets as market becomes totally uncertain during these times.
It is not fair to criticise people who are sharing their vast experience with others. One may ignore their opinion if you find it difficult to agree with them. But to question their wisdom on markers will be extreme foolishness. |
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bappa1971
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| Post: #129 Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:58 am Post subject: |
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sakan bhai......is there any number where we can place a "stop loss" to criticisms......  |
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singh.ravee
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| Post: #130 Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:16 am Post subject: Re: Shall I Start My Journey............. |
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| veerappan wrote: |
first attempt it gave 249 pts what u did ?
and have u read continuosly postings... guys its not for you to give your opinions....or blame... if u need u can take or dont c the forum on veeras topics... no critics not allowed .... bcoz i dont want to grow ... bcoz of critics growth is there.. but personally i dont want to grow on knowledge basis... not interested also... if u need just follow... its not suitable for u then please avoid veeras topics and dont comment also.... better avoid...
is it clear... dont reply also ....its not for u ... for my silent followers i am posting... it ends... ...
singravee and pkholla better open a separate topic and just if u need u can post your views... its better....bcoz i never encourage criticism and critics... even though if i am wrong also i never allow... bcoz i behave and i want to be like hitlor...let it be wrong also...
i am not a teacher first...
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veera,
1. i do not wish u to teach me anything about TA. Nor i wish u to do a role reversal.
2. When u r in open public forum, criticism is always there. If u wish to show ur dictatorial or hitlor attitude then public forums is not a place to display such arrogance. Atleast, common sense and etiquette says so.
3. I used to think that u r a good trader. I never realised, that it would be so difficult for u to accept that ur analysis went wrong this time. The outburst shown by you, reminds me of a typical newbie behaviour.
anyways, keep moving.
rgds |
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sankan_77
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| Post: #131 Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:31 am Post subject: |
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| bappa1971 wrote: | | sakan bhai......is there any number where we can place a "stop loss" to criticisms...... |
bappa1971 , bhai , criticism i think need no stoplosses . But the desire to see others failing (even if they are not) is hard to suppress. As that would give you some comfort for own failures..A feeling that hey I am not the one who loooses .
Normally people will stop whining when they succumb to the market eventually . That is the hard truth (but sad one it is ) 
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ConMan
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| Post: #132 Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:32 am Post subject: |
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It seems the followers & the GURU is taking the criticism wrong … no one questioning knowledge or experience here … the question is whats the point of talking about 4444 or 5555 in Nifty targets … how many times in the past few years have we heard this …
One other question … if 4444 or 5555 is the target then why are people happy with the 250points fall …
Lets trade sensibly …  |
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sankan_77
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| Post: #133 Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:41 am Post subject: |
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| ConMan wrote: | It seems the followers & the GURU is taking the criticism wrong … no one questioning knowledge or experience here … the question is whats the point of talking about 4444 or 5555 in Nifty targets … how many times in the past few years have we heard this …
One other question … if 4444 or 5555 is the target then why are people happy with the 250points fall …
Lets trade sensibly … |
In trading normally people make money by trading for target with stoplosses. A trader makes money not because his target is hit nor because his calculation goes right. He makes money because when his stoploss is hit he is in profit. If anyone wait for targets and unhappy because his targets are not met and do note xit , market will make sure that he exits from markets itself.If some one think that a long term target is achieved in a few weeks that is really nice . good luck to them . |
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misscrore
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| Post: #134 Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:32 am Post subject: |
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| sankan_77 wrote: | | ConMan wrote: | It seems the followers & the GURU is taking the criticism wrong … no one questioning knowledge or experience here … the question is whats the point of talking about 4444 or 5555 in Nifty targets … how many times in the past few years have we heard this …
One other question … if 4444 or 5555 is the target then why are people happy with the 250points fall …
Lets trade sensibly … |
In trading normally people make money by trading for target with stoplosses. A trader makes money not because his target is hit nor because his calculation goes right. He makes money because when his stoploss is hit he is in profit. If anyone wait for targets and unhappy because his targets are not met and do note xit , market will make sure that he exits from markets itself.If some one think that a long term target is achieved in a few weeks that is really nice . good luck to them . |
Bang on Sankan ... Precisely what I meant ... Why give long term Tgt for short term trading ... Long term Tgt is a noise for traders and that's what critics here meant ... Hv SL and follow trend ..simple |
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bappa1971
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| Post: #135 Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:56 am Post subject: |
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verruji...why is nifty falling ??  |
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