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as4manju White Belt
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Post: #286 Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:43 am Post subject: Re: Can i buy DCB? |
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Hi venu,
48-50 would be a good entry point for the stock and possible tgt could be 54-56-60 in short term.. u can use 45 as a SL
Regards
Manju
r_venu wrote: | Hi Manju! ............at what price can i buy DCB. please give me the targets and sl.
Thanks..........
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as4manju White Belt
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Post: #287 Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:50 am Post subject: Uni phos |
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Uni phos - The stock has made a base around 151 levels if 150 is broken the stock can quickly loose 5-7% possible tgt would be 143 atleast
on the upside the stock to watch for would be Orchid chem above 325 next resistance 333...
Would suggest every one to trade either long or short cautiously with low volulmes as v are near a curical point in mkt i would be watching todays close very closely decide wat has to be done ..
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ali522003 White Belt
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Post: #288 Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:03 am Post subject: |
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manju bhai wat should be the stoploss for reliance. |
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shivanigautam30 White Belt
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Post: #289 Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:26 am Post subject: ABG SHIPYARD |
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Dear Manju Sir
Pls suggest ABG shipyard target/levels for today.
Having been reading your posts and its a great help in trading Sir.
Await ur response Sir.
Warm Rgds |
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ali522003 White Belt
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Post: #290 Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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finally booked loss in cairn ,, now depending of reliance and siemens. |
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as4manju White Belt
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Post: #291 Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Hi ali,
I was not on the system had gone out couldnt reply to you in time.. You reliance results today EOD and more over u should liten to my advice i kind of felt sad to see youo booking loss i dont know what price u ve booked but i ve adviced you thinking its my money u trading and asked you u keep a SL at 343 and u never kept that SL.. the first rule of trading should be SL is hit exit dont be emotional with the trade..
this my advice like ur elder bro and any one who is reading and following my thread..
I dont know since how long u ve been trading but i ve a long bad expieirence in this mkt so if u dont preserve ur capital u ve be left with nothing i m stressing it to every reader that TA will contribute 20-30% of the sucess in mkt rest is with ur money mgt and ur experience and ability to control ur greed and fear...
I will quote few example" 1) infy i said tgt is 3500 and around 3490 i said i m exiting even though it might go higher.. 2) gail my tgt above 515 was 530 even though it went beyond it.. 3)Lic hoousing fin below 1280 tgt was 1100 and i booked it even though it droped to 750.."
See the point is some where we need to put a full stop to our trades and its about how u control ur greed and fear else if i u keep thinking i ll still make more money or loss u wouldn exit ur trades... always learn to control ur greed and fear else u ll left with nothing else but fear of loosing..
i ve been adivsing for last one week to avoid levrage trade cause volatality can kill ur trades both way mkt open and close daily it doesnt mean we need to trade daily holding cash is also kind of a position... Just ask your self this question "can i stay from mkt with out thinking about it for an hour or min ?" if ur ans is "no" then its not a good sign..
I would suggest please read out about a person "jesse Livemore" his the father of all traders.. Knowing TA ll only help you in knowing what to do but rest is with u to execute it if ur emotions come in no matter how good the call is the chance of making money out of it is very less..
Few days back casper had also written about "icici bank" incedent its not that we are angry its that we feel sad to see people loosing money..
Please readers following my thread leave a comment on what u feel..
Regards
MAnju
ali522003 wrote: | finally booked loss in cairn ,, now depending of reliance and siemens. |
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as4manju White Belt
Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 390
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Post: #292 Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:40 pm Post subject: Re: ABG SHIPYARD |
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Hi shivanigautam30,
ABG is a high beta stock its high risk high return stock so trade catuiously..
currently the level to watch for on the down side is 360 below which it can tank by 30 rs and on the upside above 375 the levels are 390-400 and are also a big resisitance
regards
Manju
shivanigautam30 wrote: | Dear Manju Sir
Pls suggest ABG shipyard target/levels for today.
Having been reading your posts and its a great help in trading Sir.
Await ur response Sir.
Warm Rgds |
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ali522003 White Belt
Joined: 03 Jul 2010 Posts: 217
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Post: #293 Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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as4manju wrote: | Hi ali,
I was not on the system had gone out couldnt reply to you in time.. You reliance results today EOD and more over u should liten to my advice i kind of felt sad to see youo booking loss i dont know what price u ve booked but i ve adviced you thinking its my money u trading and asked you u keep a SL at 343 and u never kept that SL.. the first rule of trading should be SL is hit exit dont be emotional with the trade..
this my advice like ur elder bro and any one who is reading and following my thread..
I dont know since how long u ve been trading but i ve a long bad expieirence in this mkt so if u dont preserve ur capital u ve be left with nothing i m stressing it to every reader that TA will contribute 20-30% of the sucess in mkt rest is with ur money mgt and ur experience and ability to control ur greed and fear...
I will quote few example" 1) infy i said tgt is 3500 and around 3490 i said i m exiting even though it might go higher.. 2) gail my tgt above 515 was 530 even though it went beyond it.. 3)Lic hoousing fin below 1280 tgt was 1100 and i booked it even though it droped to 750.."
See the point is some where we need to put a full stop to our trades and its about how u control ur greed and fear else if i u keep thinking i ll still make more money or loss u wouldn exit ur trades... always learn to control ur greed and fear else u ll left with nothing else but fear of loosing..
i ve been adivsing for last one week to avoid levrage trade cause volatality can kill ur trades both way mkt open and close daily it doesnt mean we need to trade daily holding cash is also kind of a position... Just ask your self this question "can i stay from mkt with out thinking about it for an hour or min ?" if ur ans is "no" then its not a good sign..
I would suggest please read out about a person "jesse Livemore" his the father of all traders.. Knowing TA ll only help you in knowing what to do but rest is with u to execute it if ur emotions come in no matter how good the call is the chance of making money out of it is very less..
Few days back casper had also written about "icici bank" incedent its not that we are angry its that we feel sad to see people loosing money..
Please readers following my thread leave a comment on what u feel..
Regards
MAnju
ali522003 wrote: | finally booked loss in cairn ,, now depending of reliance and siemens. |
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manju bhai its really nice to see you always kind to your readers and followers
bhai i m not leveraged i took cairn and siemens where as my friend make position in reliance.
we can talk in detail personally if you allow so can give you the complete scene.
casper knows very well,
as far as carin is concerned, i was out for some work, sudenly it fell heavily,., thats why i booked loss by seeing sudden fall.
now i left with only siemens, and my friend is having reliance. reliance is making high and looking strong too thats why i asked for the stop..
sorry if you felt bad but my intention was not at all like that. i m looking forward to hav long relation with you. please dont mind and treat me as your smal brother. |
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vishytns White Belt
Joined: 26 Nov 2009 Posts: 206
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Post: #294 Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Manju,
U know even we(Myself and Casper) follow Ali's position closely. U have said what we were saying ALI. U were 100% correct in all sense. It applies to each and every trader.....including us.
Ali, Please do follow the SAFETY RULES (LIKE TRAFFIC RULES). Actually WE BEG YOU .
GREED CAN EAT ALL YOUR MONEY....
Your well wisher,
Vishy. |
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chetan83 Brown Belt
Joined: 19 Feb 2010 Posts: 2036
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Post: #295 Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:09 pm Post subject: Kudos to your View |
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as4manju wrote: | Hi ali,
I was not on the system had gone out couldnt reply to you in time.. You reliance results today EOD and more over u should liten to my advice i kind of felt sad to see youo booking loss i dont know what price u ve booked but i ve adviced you thinking its my money u trading and asked you u keep a SL at 343 and u never kept that SL.. the first rule of trading should be SL is hit exit dont be emotional with the trade..
this my advice like ur elder bro and any one who is reading and following my thread..
I dont know since how long u ve been trading but i ve a long bad expieirence in this mkt so if u dont preserve ur capital u ve be left with nothing i m stressing it to every reader that TA will contribute 20-30% of the sucess in mkt rest is with ur money mgt and ur experience and ability to control ur greed and fear...
I will quote few example" 1) infy i said tgt is 3500 and around 3490 i said i m exiting even though it might go higher.. 2) gail my tgt above 515 was 530 even though it went beyond it.. 3)Lic hoousing fin below 1280 tgt was 1100 and i booked it even though it droped to 750.."
See the point is some where we need to put a full stop to our trades and its about how u control ur greed and fear else if i u keep thinking i ll still make more money or loss u wouldn exit ur trades... always learn to control ur greed and fear else u ll left with nothing else but fear of loosing..
i ve been adivsing for last one week to avoid levrage trade cause volatality can kill ur trades both way mkt open and close daily it doesnt mean we need to trade daily holding cash is also kind of a position... Just ask your self this question "can i stay from mkt with out thinking about it for an hour or min ?" if ur ans is "no" then its not a good sign..
I would suggest please read out about a person "jesse Livemore" his the father of all traders.. Knowing TA ll only help you in knowing what to do but rest is with u to execute it if ur emotions come in no matter how good the call is the chance of making money out of it is very less..
Few days back casper had also written about "icici bank" incedent its not that we are angry its that we feel sad to see people loosing money..
Please readers following my thread leave a comment on what u feel..
Regards
MAnju
ali522003 wrote: | finally booked loss in cairn ,, now depending of reliance and siemens. |
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Excellent piece of information given. Frankly speaking, I was the culprit of ICICI BANK, even I knew that if 1135 was broken, it will turn bearish, BUT, no SL and so I suffered.
You know Manju Ji, whats wrong in our trades.....We think that after hitting SL price will again favour our trade, so we skip it. We are in a position to book profit fast (which is very less) but we never imagine that the amount we lose in SL in 1 trade will take us long time to recover it in several trade.
Luckly in past few months, I started to learn abt TA, as I was very eager to know the several pattern, trends and other indicators with charts by which we can enter a particular set-up (even now a days I learn it more to refine it with the help of Casper/Spec and specially you){Thanks a lot to you Guys }.
But still in real market scenario we are not that compitent enough (just as today in NF, as it was eating SL in both the direction), so we require you Guys to help us as a Teacher without being impatient, as we are prone to make mistake.
All of you (Casper/Spec and You) has a classic approach to your calls, but sometimes we try to mix them in our trade and curse to our luck later , and I guess that is where we are making mistake.
If time permits, then I would like to disturb you also (as I am currently doing to Casper ) with my silly questions on TA.
Keep up the good work and help us identify our mistake, this is only left for me to say,
regards,
Chetan. |
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as4manju White Belt
Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 390
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Post: #296 Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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Hi ali,
i m here to stay and build relations so that others dont have to go thruough as what i ve been in past..i only share my experince cause i have made hefty losses in my trade's amounting to laks in each trade with out even telling my parents.. this is the price i paid to learn TA and excel in my trades now.. Always remember that SL should be in the system not in ur mind so that when ur out whether mkt is up or down u ll still be safe cause in mkt there are no second chance its ur hard earned money these are the small things but as they say "boond boond se banta sagar"..
If possible just google about Jesse Livermore and read about him it ll sure help you
Regards
Manju
ali522003 wrote: | as4manju wrote: | Hi ali,
I was not on the system had gone out couldnt reply to you in time.. You reliance results today EOD and more over u should liten to my advice i kind of felt sad to see youo booking loss i dont know what price u ve booked but i ve adviced you thinking its my money u trading and asked you u keep a SL at 343 and u never kept that SL.. the first rule of trading should be SL is hit exit dont be emotional with the trade..
this my advice like ur elder bro and any one who is reading and following my thread..
I dont know since how long u ve been trading but i ve a long bad expieirence in this mkt so if u dont preserve ur capital u ve be left with nothing i m stressing it to every reader that TA will contribute 20-30% of the sucess in mkt rest is with ur money mgt and ur experience and ability to control ur greed and fear...
I will quote few example" 1) infy i said tgt is 3500 and around 3490 i said i m exiting even though it might go higher.. 2) gail my tgt above 515 was 530 even though it went beyond it.. 3)Lic hoousing fin below 1280 tgt was 1100 and i booked it even though it droped to 750.."
See the point is some where we need to put a full stop to our trades and its about how u control ur greed and fear else if i u keep thinking i ll still make more money or loss u wouldn exit ur trades... always learn to control ur greed and fear else u ll left with nothing else but fear of loosing..
i ve been adivsing for last one week to avoid levrage trade cause volatality can kill ur trades both way mkt open and close daily it doesnt mean we need to trade daily holding cash is also kind of a position... Just ask your self this question "can i stay from mkt with out thinking about it for an hour or min ?" if ur ans is "no" then its not a good sign..
I would suggest please read out about a person "jesse Livemore" his the father of all traders.. Knowing TA ll only help you in knowing what to do but rest is with u to execute it if ur emotions come in no matter how good the call is the chance of making money out of it is very less..
Few days back casper had also written about "icici bank" incedent its not that we are angry its that we feel sad to see people loosing money..
Please readers following my thread leave a comment on what u feel..
Regards
MAnju
ali522003 wrote: | finally booked loss in cairn ,, now depending of reliance and siemens. |
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manju bhai its really nice to see you always kind to your readers and followers
bhai i m not leveraged i took cairn and siemens where as my friend make position in reliance.
we can talk in detail personally if you allow so can give you the complete scene.
casper knows very well,
as far as carin is concerned, i was out for some work, sudenly it fell heavily,., thats why i booked loss by seeing sudden fall.
now i left with only siemens, and my friend is having reliance. reliance is making high and looking strong too thats why i asked for the stop..
sorry if you felt bad but my intention was not at all like that. i m looking forward to hav long relation with you. please dont mind and treat me as your smal brother. |
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as4manju White Belt
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Post: #297 Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:19 pm Post subject: Re: Kudos to your View |
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Hi chetan,
Any time u can disturb me i ll be more than happy to guide u the only thing is that i m not a full time trader so i dont sit in front of the terminal all the time so there might be some delay in my response thats it..
As far as the Sl issue i said in my previous post that SL should be in the system and not on ur mind else u get emotional with the trade thinking that i might bounce and u ll exit on the bounce and sadly that bounce never comes..
Regards
Manju |
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casper Green Belt
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Post: #298 Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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hii manju
what u wrote to ali, is the burning truth, like u, me also made a huge loss and then came to know about T.A
and after seeing popular reaction to trading, now i am really convinced that peoples those who has not lost a lot, wont never understand what is risk management and why its important, u can say it my anger, can be my frustration also
we dont want to loose and we hope price will bounce back, and thats why we hold loosing position while cutting wining positions immediately. its rightly said by chetan
but chetan bhaiyya, i am sure now u know that after price breaking a support and going down, the very friendly support will turn to be ur strongest enemy resistance
and this resistance will choke any up move.
so better let it bounce back on its own and then above the said level, let us enter, but no body ever thinks like this, this is our agony
manju rightly said, that we are not angry, we are just sad, chetan bahaiyya, u know one thing? strategy varies with personality, spec sir's method suits him so he trades like that and analyse things in that way, manju found his own way which suits his style, i am too much aggressive in trading so my method is very aggressive one, and thts suits me too
so i want to say that before following calls try to understand why and how these calls are generated, this is the basic thing for a technical trader, if we fail here, we will end up just trading calls and learning nothing, so be in wining be in loosing,we wont ever have our own confidence
thats why i always shout" take paper trades. take paper trades"
if u think market is a casino then nothing can be said, but in reality its not gambling, its a profession, so we need to be professional
if we dont become professional trader (intra or positional whatever it is) and remain just gambler, then we will surely end up asking the same question every time " what is the sl of ur call manju/specsir/casper?" |
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shivanigautam30 White Belt
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Post: #299 Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:28 pm Post subject: ABG SHIPYARD |
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Thanks Manju Ji.
I'm a very small-time trader but deeply interested in understanding TA before I venture into any trades.
Have been reading ur advice on SL/money management.
Thanks for all the help.
Have very small positions in a few stocks (no leveraging for me)....
SBI at 2700
ICICI at 1150
BGR Energy at 702
J&K Bank at 805
Cairn at 345
HDIL at 195
JP Assosc at 94
Can wait for these scrips to come in the green but it will be great to understand the charts of these and the method ur using Sir to arrive at Buy/Sell signals.
I hope it does not bother u but if convenient, pls suggest ways to read the charts using these stocks as example...
Warm Rgds! |
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chetan83 Brown Belt
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Post: #300 Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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casper wrote: | hii manju
what u wrote to ali, is the burning truth, like u, me also made a huge loss and then came to know about T.A
and after seeing popular reaction to trading, now i am really convinced that peoples those who has not lost a lot, wont never understand what is risk management and why its important, u can say it my anger, can be my frustration also
we dont want to loose and we hope price will bounce back, and thats why we hold loosing position while cutting wining positions immediately. its rightly said by chetan
but chetan bhaiyya, i am sure now u know that after price breaking a support and going down, the very friendly support will turn to be ur strongest enemy resistance
and this resistance will choke any up move.
so better let it bounce back on its own and then above the said level, let us enter, but no body ever thinks like this, this is our agony
manju rightly said, that we are not angry, we are just sad, chetan bahaiyya, u know one thing? strategy varies with personality, spec sir's method suits him so he trades like that and analyse things in that way, manju found his own way which suits his style, i am too much aggressive in trading so my method is very aggressive one, and thts suits me too
so i want to say that before following calls try to understand why and how these calls are generated, this is the basic thing for a technical trader, if we fail here, we will end up just trading calls and learning nothing, so be in wining be in loosing,we wont ever have our own confidence
thats why i always shout" take paper trades. take paper trades"
if u think market is a casino then nothing can be said, but in reality its not gambling, its a profession, so we need to be professional
if we dont become professional trader (intra or positional whatever it is) and remain just gambler, then we will surely end up asking the same question every time " what is the sl of ur call manju/specsir/casper?" |
Hi Casper,
Buddy, one thing is poor for we newbie here is to know the target and the SL, and probably with the help of you people (TRIMURTI's ) we will very soon be able to learn the same.
My urge here will be to all newbies including me would be to post a chart (whether right or wrong) with a probable target and SL & why we are going to take the trade (with the reason, of what Casper/Manju and Spec discuss, I mean the different set-ups). I think this will refine our trade day on day basis and also by taking such steps we can go a step further.
{tabhi to chela guru ko Guru Dakshina de sakega }.
I'll be the one who would ask such question on Why , When & How. I think it will be a tedious job for our Teachers, but I know they would be glad to polish us!!
Also I think, it would be better to start a new Thread (Newbie Probable Trades - Tribute to our Teachers), where the Teachers would just drop in with there views and we will respect their opinion on why, when & How.
I also urge Sumesh/Veeru Sir (if he is ready to post the same with charts ) Sid/Ravee/Amit who are senior then us, to come up and share the knowledge with us.
May be tonight, I'll post some charts, but I have to ask Casper as how he highlight and write in Ichart which can be viewed easily.
Regards,
Chetan. |
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