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Jai2000 White Belt
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Post: #31 Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:01 pm Post subject: Crude swing, Rejection Trade |
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Kiran,
hello..... Crudeoil given just 2 entries in previous swing, where do u got this much candles First entry by breaking pivot @4301, initial SL u can use breakout candle's high or 2ATR. 4301- 4215 .Here profit booking is yr choice..... !!next entry dwn rej @ 30Tf , entry @ 4320 with SL 4337 . 4320-4226 (again ......profit booking is yr choice....)
Kiran If you are new to his strategy,pls trade wth silvermicro (minimum2 lots)atleast 2,3 months then increase qty step by step,after that u can move to other counter copper,silvermini,crudeoil, etc.,
Jai
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Jai2000 White Belt
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Post: #32 Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:40 pm Post subject: Silver Pivot trading |
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Kiran,
here the recent silver trade using Spec sir's system. 15 TF trade ystrday one & 5TF intra rej trade
Jai
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chiragbvyas White Belt
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Post: #33 Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 4:29 pm Post subject: hi |
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Dear Jai2000,
is spec sir's system useful in daily (eod) charts?
if yes can u pls explain me with a chart, how to use it and how it works ?
this trade setup is interesting and i would like to learn it , if u guide me.
Thanks and regards
Chirag
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kiranlegend White Belt
Joined: 21 Apr 2011 Posts: 73
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Post: #34 Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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Jai2000 wrote: | Kiran,
hello..... Crudeoil given just 2 entries in previous swing, where do u got this much candles First entry by breaking pivot @4301, initial SL u can use breakout candle's high or 2ATR. 4301- 4215 .Here profit booking is yr choice..... !!next entry dwn rej @ 30Tf , entry @ 4320 with SL 4337 . 4320-4226 (again ......profit booking is yr choice....)
Kiran If you are new to his strategy,pls trade wth silvermicro (minimum2 lots)atleast 2,3 months then increase qty step by step,after that u can move to other counter copper,silvermini,crudeoil, etc.,
Jai |
thanks Jai for your responses and suggestions..
Could you please explain how did u consider 4320 as your second entry? that means u considered the 1030 candle on 18th to be start of the swing with downward pivot to be at 4337 i.e, high of 11-1130 candles? So that means you had both entries based on Type 1.. right?
my second question is pertaining to exit and sl - for sl, other than the swing high or low or breakout high, based on ATR.. for shorts, it would be the entry + 2*ATR (ATR taken at the point of entry right?) yes i need to go thoroughly through the SSPS forum.. just a small question.. don't mind..
Also this is a very important question i feel.. in both the entries, we had very short swings.. how do u exit? (could be one of these right, RSI risen out of OS and formed a higher low or price moved above EMA and followed by a confirmation candle taking out the pierced candle high or based on customized risk/reward ratio ) any other type of exit did i miss?
Please help me understand my answering the above questions.. thanks so much once again..
(thanks is just not enough)
Regards
Kiran
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Rahulsharmaat Black Belt
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Post: #35 Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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can anyone guide-- what is swing high-- low-- i am reading all this but never got them in my brain--
is there no one who can help in this
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Jai2000 White Belt
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Post: #36 Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:52 pm Post subject: RE |
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chiragbvyas
Upto 30TF it's best!!!!! For EOD he has another setup.Rainbow can explain you better. Tks
Jai
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Jai2000 White Belt
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Jai2000 White Belt
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Post: #38 Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:20 pm Post subject: Crudeoil Rej trade |
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Kiran,
Could you please explain how did u consider 4320 as your second entry?
i've attached the chart already,12& 12.30 candles in 30TF(18/07) are rej candles.So entry as usual start from nxt candle.( 4320 was my entry point that day)
Ys u need to revisit forum for EXIT, ATR , for swing trade i use Pivot as SL & for rejection entry i use rejcandle's high,low or day's high, low whichever is highest & lowest!
Honestly, i'm not a right person to answer yr "important" question!
(could be one of these right, RSI risen out of OS and formed a higher low or price moved above EMA and followed by a confirmation candle taking out the pierced candle high or based on customized risk/reward ratio )
I'm really not aware of anything which u've mentiond . I'm very small & simple trader! I want to keep this system as simple as it is!! Usually @ crude, if the moving is above 100 point or closer to 100 point i'l book my full profit, else i'l ride untill trend change. Once i book my swing trade, then i'l enter @ rejection & will close my trade as intra! I never carry my intra trade for next day!
Regards,
Jai
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chiragbvyas White Belt
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Post: #39 Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:25 pm Post subject: hi |
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Dear Rainbow,
Need your help to understand spec sir's swing pivot trade set up, if it can be useful using daily (eod) charts.
I found This trade set up very interesting, because in the thread " my story" everyone is talking about how they recover their losses using this strategy.
rightnow i am using 55 days sma breakout base trading system. but specs sirs system sounds trader friendly.
for that i need your guidance pls reply.
thanks and regards.
chirag
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Arjun20 Yellow Belt
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Post: #40 Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:31 pm Post subject: Re: RE |
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Jai2000 White Belt
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Post: #41 Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:45 pm Post subject: Crudeoil |
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Crudeoil 5Tf Pivot Trade...............
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Jai2000 White Belt
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Post: #42 Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:42 am Post subject: Pivot updates |
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Copper - 15TF- USP - 430.65
Copper - 30TF- USP - 430.65
Crudeoil -15TF - USP - 4215
Crudeoil -30TF - USP - 4215
Silverm - 15Tf - DSP - 60140
Nickel - 15TF- USP - 1020.90
Jai
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Arjun20 Yellow Belt
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Post: #43 Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:57 am Post subject: |
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Sanchit White Belt
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Post: #44 Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:20 am Post subject: |
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Hello Arjun20,
I'm sorry if i'm intruding in the conversation;
However, the possible reason(s) for not taking long could be (per my understanding):
1) The trend is considered down until the Upswing pivot is broken so no long trades. The possible long entry (as suggested) could just be a pullback/mean reversion towards 34 EMA(possible whipsaw). We need to take a deep breath here and paitently wait for rejection to occur
(which is what happened later)
2) The RSI (5) was in the OB region.
Jai Bhai Sahi hai na
Regards,
Sanchit
Arjun20 wrote: | Thnx Jai sir for regularly posting pivots.
Jai sir , i have one doubt @Crude 30tf chart u posted y'day (regd which there were Q&A betn u and Kiran). (trade done on 15or16 th Jul)
Jai sir, in tht post u mentioned 2 trades (both short). First when , earlier pivot was taken off and second when there was rejection.
Now sir, i understood both ur entries. But, bfor second entry there was a Opportunity for going Long also by taking out 34EMA line. Coz, at tht moment, 'how i could know, tht this obunce back is temporary one and NOT TO ENTER LONG here'......And later u took Short trade.
Can u pls elaborate a little @ NOT TAKING LONG TRADE plssssss....(whenver u get time)
rgds
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Arjun20 Yellow Belt
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