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amit0666
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Post: #301  Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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sherbaz sir , jai sir
plz post nickel , zinc , lead pivots on 15 min tf
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amit0666
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| Post: #302 Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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| copper new dsp on 15 min is 429.5
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Jaii
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| Post: #303 Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:08 pm Post subject: RE |
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Amigo,
5312 is crudeoil USP both 5& 15TF!
Amit,
The Pivots are below,
Nickel -15TF- DSP- 963.30
Zinc - 15TF- DSP- 104.25
Lead - 15TF- DSP- 107.60
Jai
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Amigo
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| Post: #304 Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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| thanks jai
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amit0666
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| Post: #305 Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:10 pm Post subject: Re: RE |
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| Jaii wrote: | Amigo,
5312 is crudeoil USP both 5& 15TF!
Amit,
The Pivots are below,
Nickel -15TF- DSP- 963.30
Zinc - 15TF- DSP- 104.25
Lead - 15TF- DSP- 107.60
Jai |
thank you very much sir
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sherbaaz
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| Post: #306 Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Jaii,
Attached is the chart of silver mic 15M tf . kindly give yr inputs regarding dsp.
regds,
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Jaii
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| Post: #307 Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:41 pm Post subject: Re |
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Sher ,
Ys 58950 is 15TF DSP.....
Jai
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sherbaaz
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| Post: #308 Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:45 pm Post subject: Re: Re |
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| Jaii wrote: | Sher ,
Ys 58950 is 15TF DSP.....
Jai |
thanks a lot understood the thing. its not happening regularly i think.
regds,
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Arjun20
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| Post: #309 Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:31 pm Post subject: Re: Re-GoldM Pivot |
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| sherbaaz wrote: |
Hi Jaii,
He is my chart. Still I am not convienced abt the dsp let me go through the write up again. and then chk it .
regds, |
Sher, did u get it?
I am still unable to get it.
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sherbaaz
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| Post: #310 Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:12 pm Post subject: Re: Re-GoldM Pivot |
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| Arjun20 wrote: | | sherbaaz wrote: |
Hi Jaii,
He is my chart. Still I am not convienced abt the dsp let me go through the write up again. and then chk it .
regds, |
Sher, did u get it?
I am still unable to get it. |
Arjun,
Kindly read Nilay post he has mentioned the reason for the same. Now the silver mic dsp position - most of the time there is either a rejection of rsi ob but here none of such thing but its the HH between 2 LL's thats why its dsp.
I am new to the system so this is best i can try to make u understand.
regds
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sherbaaz
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| Post: #311 Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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can somebody please tell me wht is pivot in crudeoil 30 minute chart?
regds,
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Amigo
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| Post: #312 Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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Silver mini DSP for 5m and 15m now 58650 ? kindly correct if wrong.
Regards
Amigo
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sherbaaz
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| Post: #313 Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Amigo wrote: | Silver mini DSP now 58650 ? kindly correct if wrong.
Regards
Amigo |
yes same i have
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Arjun20
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| Post: #314 Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: Re-GoldM Pivot |
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| sherbaaz wrote: |
Arjun,
Kindly read Nilay post he has mentioned the reason for the same. Now the silver mic dsp position - most of the time there is either a rejection of rsi ob but here none of such thing but its the HH between 2 LL's thats why its dsp.
I am new to the system so this is best i can try to make u understand.
regds |
| Quote: | When a rejection in an uptrend leads to new recovery highs, the lowest low preceding the rejection becomes the new USP. A much simpler way of identfying the same is to find the lowest point between the prior highs and the new recovery highs.
Similarly, When a rejection in a downtrend leads to new lows, the highest high preceding the rejection becomes the new DSP. A much simpler way of identfying the same is to find the highest point between the prior lows and the new lows.
Role of RSI(5) in identifying pivots
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We need a valid rejection for pivots to be formed. RSI(5) should be used to resolve the ambiguity about rejections. If a rejection occurs with a touch of the 34 ema then it's a valid rejection and then there is no need to use the RSI(5).
If the rejection occurs by the price coming close to the 34 ema, but not touching it, then check the RSI(5).
(i) In an uptrend, if the RSI(5) is oversold (below 30) prior to the rejection, then it can be considered a valid rejection
(ii) In a downtrend if the RSI(5) is overbought (above 70) prior to the rejection, then it can be considered a valid rejection. |
Hi .
i am reposting Nilay's post along with extra extracts of Spec sir's doc.
From this what i understood is:
When we get a NEW RECO High(/Low), with a REJECTION we get a new Swing pivot. I hope everybody is clear with this point.
Now i want to emphasize on word REJECTION. Just getting a new High and taking lowest point in between 2 reco highs and terming it as USP is not correct.
Now this rej can happen 2 ways :
1.Either clear touch of 34EMA. If it happens like this, then we don't need to bother @RSI reading
2.OR price 'COMING CLOSE' to 34EMA but fails to touch it , then check RSI reading. And price touching 34EMA is primary test and secondary test is RSI reading, which to be seen if price is CLOSE to 34EMA.
My understanding is that : If in between 2 reco High/low, if price did not go close to 34EMA at all , then mere looking at rsi u can not claim to have a rejection and term lowest/highet point as valid USP/DSP.
But in yday's Gold chart, price is nowhere close to 34EMA.
PS- I am still a learner and i did not meant any offence against anyone ,especially Jai bhai. Jai bhai u are my mentor.Pls don't misunderstand. I have just written what i perceived. I will be most happy if i am wrong.
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sherbaaz
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| Post: #315 Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Bhai,
Again same thing. is it dsp in copper mini 15m 426.15 hh between 2ll or 428.50.
Kindly tell.
regds,
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