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Swing Trading : The Speculator way
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Post: #106   PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Posted below are some charts with latest Swing pivots marked.

All charts are 30 Min and EMA 34.

Hope ppl find them to be useful.

SHEKHAR



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Post: #107   PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Shekar posed below, the swing pivot on NF has moved to 5221.40. A break of that will kickstart a downswing. With the RBI increasing the repo rate by 25 bps on friday afterhours, combined with the selloff in U.S, we should likely see a gap-down below the pivot on Monday.

My plan is to start building shorts around 5180-5200 area and add more if we move higher to get a better average price (with a 5282 SL). Many stocks were struggling to mount a breakout for the last 2-3 days, which was an indication that some correction was coming. It's too early to speculate on how deep the selloff is going to be.

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Post: #108   PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The BO during friday closing looked inconclusive.

It may not be considered as a new high - or it was a double top.

Hence, it's safe to assume swing pivot as previous pivot - i.e. 5100.

Mkt will crash only below 5100. Until then play longs with dips Smile

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Post: #109   PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

swaroopbn wrote:

Mkt will crash only below 5100. Until then play longs with dips Smile


I agree.. will this bearish news fuel a bullish rally Smile
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Post: #110   PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swaroop,

The swing pivot is 5221 unambigously. Price made a new high and that is a fact and the swing pivot system is based on facts. Whether the breakout was conclusive or not is a personal judgement. You could be right in your judgement. But a break of 5221 puts us in a downswing. So the system says short below 5282.

Buying dip when the system says short is a bad idea. Bcoz if the correction runs deeper, then not will one be wrong on their long positions but will also miss the downmove. On the other hand, if the correction is very shallow, then shorts will end up making little or no money. But when the system turns back into an upswing, we can always position long again.
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Post: #111   PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speculator wrote:
Swaroop,

The swing pivot is 5221 unambigously. Price made a new high and that is a fact and the swing pivot system is based on facts. Whether the breakout was conclusive or not is a personal judgement. You could be right in your judgement. But a break of 5221 puts us in a downswing. So the system says short below 5282.

Buying dip when the system says short is a bad idea. Bcoz if the correction runs deeper, then not will one be wrong on their long positions but will also miss the downmove. On the other hand, if the correction is very shallow, then shorts will end up making little or no money. But when the system turns back into an upswing, we can always position long again.



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speculator sir attached 15min TF nifty future chart, please explain why swing pivot is at 5221.40( point 1 in chart) and not at 5248.25 (point 2 ). I am new and trying to learn TA so if there is any mistake please forgive me .THANX
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Post: #112   PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maha,

That's a good question and has been answered many times in the shoutbox.

From 5221 to 5281 is one swing. When you have multiple rejections from the ema in a swing, choose the lowest point in the swing as the pivot.

In this particular chart of 15-min ema, there were two rejections from 34 ema, one at 5221 and the other at 5248. The lowest point of the swing was 5221. So that becomes the pivot.

If it's ambigous, looking at the higher timeframe chart helps too. In this case, if you look at 30-min, clearly the pivot is 5221.
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Post: #113   PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanx for the views Spec... Cool Cool Cool
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Post: #114   PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Nifty shorts covered today when RSI came out of OS and price failed to make new low.

Tatamotors still in downswing after breaking the S pivot at 766, it has not approached even once - EMA 34, starting from 780.


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Post: #115   PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The downswing ended up as a sideways consolidation. With new highs we are back in a upswing with the swing pivot at 5194.
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Post: #116   PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spec sir can u please explain how 5194 became swing pivot on 15min chart
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Post: #117   PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After gap filling and consolidation NF still rising... now let us see that 5245 can become a new swing pivot or not. On the first day of financial year NF giving indications of strength, but can it sustain thats the question!!!


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Post: #118   PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

smsmss wrote:
After gap filling and consolidation NF still rising... now let us see that 5245 can become a new swing pivot or not. On the first day of financial year NF giving indications of strength, but can it sustain thats the question!!!


Sure it will Smile

Good amount of accumulation has happened around the zone 5245-5280 // now this band should provide the support and we should make new high in a day or two max.

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Post: #119   PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maha,

5194 is the swing pivot based on the 30/60-min chart. In this low volatile environment, the 15-min will generate a lot of false signals. So it's better to use the hourly for swing pivots.
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Post: #120   PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speculator wrote:
Maha,

5194 is the swing pivot based on the 30/60-min chart. In this low volatile environment, the 15-min will generate a lot of false signals. So it's better to use the hourly for swing pivots.



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spec sir thanx for reply, actually the swing pivot 5194 is below 34 ema in both 30 and 60 min. timeframe, it is not formed by rejection from 34 ema thats why query please clarify my mistakes
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