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Post: #1771   PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can try shorts with SL of 4926 + filter of 5-7 pts..
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Post: #1772   PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bharat bhai, enter into a trade through type.2 rejection method, so that risk reward ratio will be much rewarding
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Post: #1773   PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NF- 15 TF in uptrend with USP 4760.5 - 4JUN 09.45 candle
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Post: #1774   PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arjun20 wrote:
NF- 15 TF in uptrend with USP 4760.5 - 4JUN 09.45 candle


NF 30min still in Downtrend with DSP at 5011.
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Post: #1775   PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:58 am    Post subject: Rejections not near 34 ema.. ? Reply with quote

As I understand for rej. price either touches 34 ema or near to that .. But someone said that's not required..

In that case can someone please confirm whether 1029 candle was a valid rej. ? However, in such cases even if we get recovery high, it will not be considered for pivot.

For pivot , we will only see either 34 touch or near to 34 + rsi(5) oversold - (for uptrend).....



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Post: #1776   PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:51 am    Post subject: Re: Rejections not near 34 ema.. ? Reply with quote

sumesh_sol wrote:
As I understand for rej. price either touches 34 ema or near to that .. But someone said that's not required..

In that case can someone please confirm whether 1029 candle was a valid rej. ? However, in such cases even if we get recovery high, it will not be considered for pivot.

For pivot , we will only see either 34 touch or near to 34 + rsi(5) oversold - (for uptrend).....


Dear Sumesh,

Is 34 EMA touched? I think it is not (as u have not mentioned the TF).....

Chetan.
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Post: #1777   PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:54 am    Post subject: Re: Rejections not near 34 ema.. ? Reply with quote

Dear Sumesh,

Is 34 EMA touched? I think it is not (as u have not mentioned the TF).....

Chetan.[/quote]

Chetan it is 15tf only....and my point was mainly this only, that it has NOT touched 34 ema or near to 34 ema.. But can it be treated as rej. ..

Personally speaking, I do not consider them as rej. , wanted to know what others consider...
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Post: #1778   PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Rejections not near 34 ema.. ? Reply with quote

sumesh_sol wrote:
Dear Sumesh,

Is 34 EMA touched? I think it is not (as u have not mentioned the TF).....

Chetan.


Chetan it is 15tf only....and my point was mainly this only, that it has NOT touched 34 ema or near to 34 ema.. But can it be treated as rej. ..

Personally speaking, I do not consider them as rej. , wanted to know what others consider...[/quote]


Yes Valid Rejection as per SSPS
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Post: #1779   PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Srp83, nf was far above 34-ema, then how u r telling it a valid rejection...... Can u explain ?
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Post: #1780   PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:47 am    Post subject: Re: Rejections not near 34 ema.. ? Reply with quote

srp83 wrote:
sumesh_sol wrote:
Dear Sumesh,

Is 34 EMA touched? I think it is not (as u have not mentioned the TF).....

Chetan.


Chetan it is 15tf only....and my point was mainly this only, that it has NOT touched 34 ema or near to 34 ema.. But can it be treated as rej. ..

Personally speaking, I do not consider them as rej. , wanted to know what others consider...



Yes Valid Rejection as per SSPS[/quote]

Pls justify??
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Post: #1781   PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:53 am    Post subject: Rejection Clarification Reply with quote

There seems to be a lot of confusion on whehter 34 EMA touch is required for rejection. Speculator had clearly said for Pivot to form 34 EMa touch is required. But for rejection 34 EMA touch is not required. 8 EMa should come towards 34 EMA and starts to go away. Thats it. Please find Spec's comments in SB day before yesterday.

On 6- Jun -2012 ( trading june contract )
Speculator: landga : spec sir.....do u have any ?? >> yes i am long

Speculator: landga : spec...when how why?? >> Today, placed an order, SSPS :hehe:

Speculator: landga : What is rejection ?

Speculator : In my document i have said a 34 ema touch is required for pivots to form. But i have never mentioned anywhere that a 34 ema touch is required for rejection

Speculator : Rejection is price moving towards 34 ema and reversing. No more no less.

Speculator : Ok i will exaplain it for last time here. Watch the 8 ema

Speculator : 8 ema will start moving towards 34 ema during a pullabck. And then 8 ema turns away from 34 ema. That's a classic rejection and 2 other rules need to be satisfied

Speculator : landga : Yep. 15-min and above rejection is stil pending. 10-min and 5-min gave a rejection

ReD.omspec sir u entered at??

SpeculatorREd: 10-min reject 13:20

Hope this makes things clear.
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Post: #1782   PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Gamble trader for posting this conversation.. helped a lot.
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Post: #1783   PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now, is there a valid rejection from 34-ema in 15-tf ? Can any one reply plz ? Thnx.
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Post: #1784   PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Valid rejection Sonilaji. 8 EMA is still falling.
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Post: #1785   PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:52 am    Post subject: Re: Rejection Clarification Reply with quote

Speculator : Ok i will exaplain it for last time here. Watch the 8 ema

[b]Speculator : 8 ema will start moving towards 34 ema during a pullabck. And then 8 ema turns away from 34 ema. That's a classic rejection and 2 other rules need to be satisfied
[/b]

Thanks a lot GT, you have clarified by giving spec sir's quotation.. This had been bugging me for quite some time.. Now, crystal clear... The critical thing here is 8 ema...
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