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smartcancerian Yellow Belt

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Post: #1771 Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:49 am Post subject: |
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You can try shorts with SL of 4926 + filter of 5-7 pts..
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sonila Brown Belt

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Post: #1772 Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:50 am Post subject: |
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Bharat bhai, enter into a trade through type.2 rejection method, so that risk reward ratio will be much rewarding
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Arjun20 Yellow Belt

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Post: #1773 Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:28 am Post subject: |
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NF- 15 TF in uptrend with USP 4760.5 - 4JUN 09.45 candle
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vinst Black Belt

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Post: #1774 Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:37 am Post subject: |
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Arjun20 wrote: | NF- 15 TF in uptrend with USP 4760.5 - 4JUN 09.45 candle |
NF 30min still in Downtrend with DSP at 5011.
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sumesh_sol Brown Belt

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Post: #1775 Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:58 am Post subject: Rejections not near 34 ema.. ? |
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As I understand for rej. price either touches 34 ema or near to that .. But someone said that's not required..
In that case can someone please confirm whether 1029 candle was a valid rej. ? However, in such cases even if we get recovery high, it will not be considered for pivot.
For pivot , we will only see either 34 touch or near to 34 + rsi(5) oversold - (for uptrend).....
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chetan83 Brown Belt

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Post: #1776 Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:51 am Post subject: Re: Rejections not near 34 ema.. ? |
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sumesh_sol wrote: | As I understand for rej. price either touches 34 ema or near to that .. But someone said that's not required..
In that case can someone please confirm whether 1029 candle was a valid rej. ? However, in such cases even if we get recovery high, it will not be considered for pivot.
For pivot , we will only see either 34 touch or near to 34 + rsi(5) oversold - (for uptrend)..... |
Dear Sumesh,
Is 34 EMA touched? I think it is not (as u have not mentioned the TF).....
Chetan.
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sumesh_sol Brown Belt

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Post: #1777 Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:54 am Post subject: Re: Rejections not near 34 ema.. ? |
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Dear Sumesh,
Is 34 EMA touched? I think it is not (as u have not mentioned the TF).....
Chetan.[/quote]
Chetan it is 15tf only....and my point was mainly this only, that it has NOT touched 34 ema or near to 34 ema.. But can it be treated as rej. ..
Personally speaking, I do not consider them as rej. , wanted to know what others consider...
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srp83 White Belt

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Post: #1778 Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: Rejections not near 34 ema.. ? |
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sumesh_sol wrote: | Dear Sumesh,
Is 34 EMA touched? I think it is not (as u have not mentioned the TF).....
Chetan. |
Chetan it is 15tf only....and my point was mainly this only, that it has NOT touched 34 ema or near to 34 ema.. But can it be treated as rej. ..
Personally speaking, I do not consider them as rej. , wanted to know what others consider...[/quote]
Yes Valid Rejection as per SSPS
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sonila Brown Belt

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Post: #1779 Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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Srp83, nf was far above 34-ema, then how u r telling it a valid rejection...... Can u explain ?
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chetan83 Brown Belt

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Post: #1780 Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:47 am Post subject: Re: Rejections not near 34 ema.. ? |
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srp83 wrote: | sumesh_sol wrote: | Dear Sumesh,
Is 34 EMA touched? I think it is not (as u have not mentioned the TF).....
Chetan. |
Chetan it is 15tf only....and my point was mainly this only, that it has NOT touched 34 ema or near to 34 ema.. But can it be treated as rej. ..
Personally speaking, I do not consider them as rej. , wanted to know what others consider... |
Yes Valid Rejection as per SSPS[/quote]
Pls justify??
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gambletrader White Belt

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Post: #1781 Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:53 am Post subject: Rejection Clarification |
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There seems to be a lot of confusion on whehter 34 EMA touch is required for rejection. Speculator had clearly said for Pivot to form 34 EMa touch is required. But for rejection 34 EMA touch is not required. 8 EMa should come towards 34 EMA and starts to go away. Thats it. Please find Spec's comments in SB day before yesterday.
On 6- Jun -2012 ( trading june contract )
Speculator: landga : spec sir.....do u have any ?? >> yes i am long
Speculator: landga : spec...when how why?? >> Today, placed an order, SSPS :hehe:
Speculator: landga : What is rejection ?
Speculator : In my document i have said a 34 ema touch is required for pivots to form. But i have never mentioned anywhere that a 34 ema touch is required for rejection
Speculator : Rejection is price moving towards 34 ema and reversing. No more no less.
Speculator : Ok i will exaplain it for last time here. Watch the 8 ema
Speculator : 8 ema will start moving towards 34 ema during a pullabck. And then 8 ema turns away from 34 ema. That's a classic rejection and 2 other rules need to be satisfied
Speculator : landga : Yep. 15-min and above rejection is stil pending. 10-min and 5-min gave a rejection
ReD.omspec sir u entered at??
SpeculatorREd: 10-min reject 13:20
Hope this makes things clear.
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Amigo White Belt

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Post: #1782 Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:56 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Gamble trader for posting this conversation.. helped a lot.
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sonila Brown Belt

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Post: #1783 Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:20 am Post subject: |
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Now, is there a valid rejection from 34-ema in 15-tf ? Can any one reply plz ? Thnx.
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gambletrader White Belt

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Post: #1784 Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:34 am Post subject: |
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No Valid rejection Sonilaji. 8 EMA is still falling.
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sumesh_sol Brown Belt

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Post: #1785 Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:52 am Post subject: Re: Rejection Clarification |
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Speculator : Ok i will exaplain it for last time here. Watch the 8 ema
[b]Speculator : 8 ema will start moving towards 34 ema during a pullabck. And then 8 ema turns away from 34 ema. That's a classic rejection and 2 other rules need to be satisfied[/b]
Thanks a lot GT, you have clarified by giving spec sir's quotation.. This had been bugging me for quite some time.. Now, crystal clear... The critical thing here is 8 ema...
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