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Post: #1861   PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today at 5126 , Shown in figure , THERE WAS A REJECTION . It reached RR 1:1 . (ATR=13.3)
Then TSL GOT HIT AT 5118. At POINT A It made LOW OF 5098 . POINT A1 RSI(5) is OS. A LITTLE PULL BACK AND AGAIN NEW LOW 5095.60 and RSI AGAIN OS AT B1.BUT THE CANDLE FAILED TO CLOSE BELOW LAST CANDLE. THIS WAS THE FIRST SIGNAL THAT REJECTION IS IN DANGER.
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Amar

please correct if my understanding is wrong.



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Post: #1862   PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AmarBandgar wrote:
Today at 5126 , Shown in figure , THERE WAS A REJECTION . It reached RR 1:1 . (ATR=13.3)
Then TSL GOT HIT AT 5118. At POINT A It made LOW OF 5098 . POINT A1 RSI(5) is OS. A LITTLE PULL BACK AND AGAIN NEW LOW 5095.60 and RSI AGAIN OS AT B1.BUT THE CANDLE FAILED TO CLOSE BELOW LAST CANDLE. THIS WAS THE FIRST SIGNAL THAT REJECTION IS IN DANGER.
........
Regards,
Amar

please correct if my understanding is wrong.


Hi Amar,

N how will u interpret the trade taken on 1st rejection which took place on 19/06/12 at 12 noon and also at 1:45 pm both in 15 mins TF...

Chetan.
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Post: #1863   PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chetan83 wrote:
AmarBandgar wrote:
Today at 5126 , Shown in figure , THERE WAS A REJECTION . It reached RR 1:1 . (ATR=13.3)
Then TSL GOT HIT AT 5118. At POINT A It made LOW OF 5098 . POINT A1 RSI(5) is OS. A LITTLE PULL BACK AND AGAIN NEW LOW 5095.60 and RSI AGAIN OS AT B1.BUT THE CANDLE FAILED TO CLOSE BELOW LAST CANDLE. THIS WAS THE FIRST SIGNAL THAT REJECTION IS IN DANGER.
........
Regards,
Amar

please correct if my understanding is wrong.


Hi Amar,

N how will u interpret the trade taken on 1st rejection which took place on 19/06/12 at 12 noon and also at 1:45 pm both in 15 mins TF...

Chetan.

19/06/12 at 12 noon........invalid rejection CC below 34 ema but not below 8 ema, so no trade.
at 1:45 pm
RR was not favorable so no trade .....and 8 ema is above 34 ema. ..I dont rush to trade when 8 ema is above 34 ema, in case of bearish rejection . and below 34 ema in case of bullish rejection.
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Post: #1864   PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AmarBandgar wrote:
chetan83 wrote:
AmarBandgar wrote:
Today at 5126 , Shown in figure , THERE WAS A REJECTION . It reached RR 1:1 . (ATR=13.3)
Then TSL GOT HIT AT 5118. At POINT A It made LOW OF 5098 . POINT A1 RSI(5) is OS. A LITTLE PULL BACK AND AGAIN NEW LOW 5095.60 and RSI AGAIN OS AT B1.BUT THE CANDLE FAILED TO CLOSE BELOW LAST CANDLE. THIS WAS THE FIRST SIGNAL THAT REJECTION IS IN DANGER.
........
Regards,
Amar

please correct if my understanding is wrong.


Hi Amar,

N how will u interpret the trade taken on 1st rejection which took place on 19/06/12 at 12 noon and also at 1:45 pm both in 15 mins TF...

Chetan.

19/06/12 at 12 noon........invalid rejection CC below 34 ema but not below 8 ema, so no trade.
at 1:45 pm
RR was not favorable so no trade .....and 8 ema is above 34 ema. ..I dont rush to trade when 8 ema is above 34 ema, in case of bearish rejection . and below 34 ema in case of bullish rejection.


Thanks U Amar Ji,

I got it, also pls clear my doubt on YESBANK, posted in ssps thread...

Chetan.
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Post: #1865   PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

15 min DSP - 5189.65 broken. New USP - 5031.5

Pls confirm.

Tks
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Post: #1866   PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aptcap wrote:
15 min DSP - 5189.65 broken. New USP - 5031.5

Pls confirm.

Tks


aptcap, very correct Smile
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Post: #1867   PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NF 30min: now in upswing.
USP is 5031
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Post: #1868   PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

5 min bullish rejection done at 5186 now.....SL for long at 5172....
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Post: #1869   PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems in the last week or so contra trend rejections are proving to be more profitable than rejections in line with trend. Even today - bullish rejn post trend change hit SL and bearish rejn at approx 5160 was more profitable.

Have to be nimble in these range bound mkts.


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Post: #1870   PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NF 30min.
USP revised to 5093.

this timeframe has been hitting whipsaw SL's since long time now.
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Post: #1871   PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:05 pm    Post subject: difficult times Reply with quote

Its been difficult time for rejection trades based on SSPS. I think difficulty is there across all time frames but i am sure better days are just around the corner.

My strategy is to just stick to the system and keep trading.

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Post: #1872   PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:53 pm    Post subject: Re: difficult times Reply with quote

amitsaraf21 wrote:
Its been difficult time for rejection trades based on SSPS. I think difficulty is there across all time frames but i am sure better days are just around the corner.

My strategy is to just stick to the system and keep trading.

Smile
very true.
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Post: #1873   PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Post: #1874   PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember spec saying "EMA touch is REQUIRED for establishing pivot points.. For trading rejections it may not be required. for pivots it is MUST".

The ema34 val for that candle is around 5288 and the low did not breach this value.. That is ema34 touch did not happen and hence the low 5290 cannot be treated as USP IMHO.


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Post: #1875   PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dine wrote:
I remember spec saying "EMA touch is REQUIRED for establishing pivot points.. For trading rejections it may not be required. for pivots it is MUST".

The ema34 val for that candle is around 5288 and the low did not breach this value.. That is ema34 touch did not happen and hence the low 5290 cannot be treated as USP IMHO.


Regards,
Dinesh S.


It is (either touch of 34 )OR (near 34 AND RSI(5) oversold)..

for rejections what we only require is 8 ema coming towards 34 then move away, whether price is close to 34 or away, doesn;t matter...
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