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Swing Trading : The Speculator way
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ashis
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Post: #301   PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear sir,

On 21st February, we were trading bellow this 5460 level up to 2:30 p.m. and at the time of closing it is above 5460 and now on 23rd close bellow 5460 so now please update why should not we consider this 5542 as swing pivot for down trend?

Awaiting for your comment
regards
Ashis

Speculator wrote:
Spec sir, why pivot is 5589 n nt 5542.70....the reason is M top formation or anythingelse...plz answer..

regards


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For 5542.7 to a pivot, it has to be a valid bearish rejection. It cannot be a valid bearish rejection as that point, Nifty was still in an uptrend (since the 5460 upswing pivot was not broken ). In uptrends you can only have bullish rejections and not bearish rejections.

Once the 5460 pivot was broken, the trend reversed to down. At that point we take the highest point of the swing as the pivot, which is 5589.

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Post: #302   PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks speculator for this great method
also like to thank shekharinvest for his input,i am following this thread for sometime quietly.
plz check

banknifty

2o min tf........downswing pivot@ 10865


nifty

15 min tf.........downswing pivot@ 5589

after 21 feb,there is no new low ,so pivot is still there,if price go below 21 low tomorrow, then only 5501 will become new downswing.
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Post: #303   PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanx for the clarification .....


regards

Speculator wrote:
Spec sir, why pivot is 5589 n nt 5542.70....the reason is M top formation or anythingelse...plz answer..

regards


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For 5542.7 to a pivot, it has to be a valid bearish rejection. It cannot be a valid bearish rejection as that point, Nifty was still in an uptrend (since the 5460 upswing pivot was not broken ). In uptrends you can only have bullish rejections and not bearish rejections.

Once the 5460 pivot was broken, the trend reversed to down. At that point we take the highest point of the swing as the pivot, which is 5589.

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Post: #304   PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:56 am    Post subject: Re: Swing pivots - Feb 22, 2011 Reply with quote

Speculator wrote:
In uptrending markets trade bullish rejections. In downtrending markets trade bearish rejections.

Nifty

15-min: Downtrending, Downswing Pivot 5589
30-min: Downtrending, Downswing Pivot 5589


Nickel:

15-min: Uptrending, Upswing Pivot 1305.1
30-min: Uptrending, Upswing Pivot 1305.1

Copper

15-min: Uptrending, Upswing Pivot 442
30-min: Downtrending, Downswing Pivot 455.55


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hellow specji,
ye dil always maange more
i would like to request you to post the pivot, alongwith charts,once in a week or month for everybodys benefit.
thanking you in advance
girish
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Post: #305   PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:43 am    Post subject: Swing pivots for Feb 24, 2011 Reply with quote

In uptrending markets trade bullish rejections. In downtrending markets trade bearish rejections.

Nifty

15-min: Downtrending, Downswing Pivot 5589
30-min: Downtrending, Downswing Pivot 5589


Nickel:

15-min: Downtrending, Upswing Pivot 1310.7
30-min: Downtrending, Upswing Pivot 1310.7

Copper

15-min: Downtrending, Downswing Pivot 432.30
30-min: Downtrending, Downswing Pivot 445.30


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Post: #306   PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:25 am    Post subject: Re: Swing pivots for Feb 24, 2011 Reply with quote

Dear sir,
Now market breaks important 5400 leval so can we now in downtrend? If yes then for down trend our swing pivot is 5589 (High) ? or 5490 where market start to come down?

Awaitng for comment.
Regards
Ashis.


Speculator wrote:
In uptrending markets trade bullish rejections. In downtrending markets trade bearish rejections.

Nifty

15-min: Downtrending, Downswing Pivot 5589
30-min: Downtrending, Downswing Pivot 5589


Nickel:

15-min: Downtrending, Upswing Pivot 1310.7
30-min: Downtrending, Upswing Pivot 1310.7

Copper

15-min: Downtrending, Downswing Pivot 432.30
30-min: Downtrending, Downswing Pivot 445.30


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Post: #307   PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:23 am    Post subject: NIFTY 15Tf Pivot Reply with quote

Hi Ashis,

Spec sir Explaind all very clearly.We are in down trend since 18/2 (15Hrs) after the Upswing pivot (5460.10)broken. Inbetween we had 2 nice downside rejections too.I marked something in chart.I try to explain in simple way.

01. 5460.10 -Upswing pivot

02. The Pivot broken, so trend is now down as per Spec sir System

03. 5589 is the Down pivot( Once Trend Change previous swing's High
or Low should be the Pivot.)

04. 5411 is the low after Pivot broken

05 & 06. Rejection Entry for short

07.Previous low 5411 is broken today(24/2/"11)

08. 5538.80 is the NEW dwn pivot now.

Hope it will help you!
Regards,
Jai.



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Post: #308   PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:36 am    Post subject: Nifty 5TF Pivot Reply with quote

Friends,

Here again the magic of 5Tf pivot trading(intra) based on Spec sir method.5411 was Up pivot in 5Tf. Today it broken @ 9.30 & We had a opportunity for short entry with SL of Just 10 points.

Spec sir Thank you as always!!!

Regards,
Jai



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Post: #309   PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Nifty 5TF Pivot Reply with quote

Jai2000 wrote:
Friends,

Here again the magic of 5Tf pivot trading(intra) based on Spec sir method.5411 was Up pivot in 5Tf. Today it broken @ 9.30 & We had a opportunity for short entry with SL of Just 10 points.

Spec sir Thank you as always!!!

Regards,
Jai


Many thanks for Jai and spec sir for generously sharing and teaching the swing trade.Greatful to both of u. sincere prayers for your wellbeing and lifelong happiness.

Regards,
Sandhya
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Post: #310   PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good day spec sir
Iam big follower of this thread and all your posts on SB. Thanks for helping all the newbies like me.....atleast now i can say i ve a system and i try to follow it as much as possible....after committing all kind of mistakes wat a person can think of while trading futures in past one year.
i need ur guidance on postioning sizing
If a bnifty or nifty lot value is between 2.6 to 3 lakhs.....how much capital is correct as per u to trade per lot so that the leverage is ok?

rgrds
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Post: #311   PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:02 pm    Post subject: Re: NIFTY 15Tf Pivot Reply with quote

Dear Jai2000

Thanks for this brief detail.
I'm little confused about 5460 level for up move's swing pivot. because I'm not sure about RSI value @5460. Please update me in your chart is it surely over sold? If yes then only we can consider this as swing pivot other wise over swing pivot for up move is 5408 is it right?
Please guide.

Regards
Ashis

Jai2000 wrote:
Hi Ashis,

Spec sir Explaind all very clearly.We are in down trend since 18/2 (15Hrs) after the Upswing pivot (5460.10)broken. Inbetween we had 2 nice downside rejections too.I marked something in chart.I try to explain in simple way.

01. 5460.10 -Upswing pivot

02. The Pivot broken, so trend is now down as per Spec sir System

03. 5589 is the Down pivot( Once Trend Change previous swing's High
or Low should be the Pivot.)

04. 5411 is the low after Pivot broken

05 & 06. Rejection Entry for short

07.Previous low 5411 is broken today(24/2/"11)

08. 5538.80 is the NEW dwn pivot now.

Hope it will help you!
Regards,
Jai.
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Post: #312   PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:25 am    Post subject: Swing pivots - Feb 25 2011 Reply with quote

In uptrending markets trade bullish rejections. In downtrending markets trade bearish rejections.

Nifty:

15-min: Downtrending, Downswing Pivot 5538.8
30-min: Downtrending, Downswing Pivot 5538.8


Nickel:

15-min: Downtrending, Downswing Pivot 1297.5
30-min: Downtrending, Downswing Pivot 1297.5

Copper

15-min: Uptrending, Upswing Pivot 423.6
30-min: Uptrending, Upswing Pivot 423.6


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Post: #313   PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:23 am    Post subject: NIFTY 15TF Reply with quote

Ashis hi,

@5460.10 NF was clearly Over sold.Hope you use RSI 5!

Regards,
Jai.



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Post: #314   PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:55 pm    Post subject: Re: NIFTY 15TF Reply with quote

Dear JAi2000
Thanks for post.
Yes you areright.
Actualy I'm using RSI-5
I refer Speculater sir's literature but honestly speaking I can uderstand to decide about Swing Pivot. but there is always confusion how to use RSI so it's my pleasure if you have knowledge about how to use RSI then post for me.
I have some idea that after up move when red candle forms next to green candle bellow 34-ema then only we can short with SL of high. which exatly forms in your posted chart. Is there any technique other then this for RSI. If yes then it's my pleasure if you will post with example.

Thanks for support.
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Ashis
Jai2000 wrote:
Ashis hi,

@5460.10 NF was clearly Over sold.Hope you use RSI 5!

Regards,
Jai.
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Post: #315   PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:10 pm    Post subject: Re: NIFTY 15TF Reply with quote

Jai2000 wrote:
Ashis hi,

@5460.10 NF was clearly Over sold.Hope you use RSI 5!

Regards,
Jai.


i wonder why rest of 11 chances of long as per rsi5 inbetween are not validated for long trades....pls take this query in a gud cause...
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